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nacmat
on 2003-01-07 10:34 [#00505252]
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how would you rate then?:
quannum-spectrum
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Clic
on 2003-01-07 10:45 [#00505256]
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"honestly i never would expect people who like IDM or other electronic music to also like hip-hop.."
Wow.
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princo
from Shitty City (Geelong) (Australia) on 2003-01-07 10:46 [#00505258]
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heh take away the vocals and what do ya have?
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Clic
on 2003-01-07 10:53 [#00505264]
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As for myself... I do like hip hop, but I haven't got many albums. Two, to be exact -- 36 Chambers and The No Music by Themselves. One of my friends has a bit more though, and I really liked Blazing Arrow. Blew me away actually.
So yeah... I'm looking over some of the posts in this thread for ideas on what to check out next.
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jupitah
from Minneapolis (United States) on 2003-01-07 11:09 [#00505275]
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i specifically remember listening to the dead prez album and thinking about certain lyics that "they're even talking about the corruptors, their just talking white." that was a while back though so i could very well be mistaken. i'll just wait to hear it again sometime before i judge them further. damn fine artists.
i can understand not feeling the anticon stuff, but there are quite a few releases from them and to label it all as pretentious seems a bit pretentious to me. is it actually that you just don't like them (i.e. "not your thing" vs. "pretentious crap")? have you REALLY listened to their music and the intent behind it? each artist on anticon is quite unique and some may be prentious (sole?) but hearing you write them all off as pretentious is to me a bit like your defensive reactions to stupid comments about bjork from people who don't know much about her. i especially cringe at calling doseone pretentious. aritsts can't be serious these days? they can't deal with personal issues in their lyrics rather than mass cultural issues?
"they certainly don't address all the problems that i see in the world."
you have to admit that addressing all the problems is not a requierment to be a good rapper. nobodyndoes that. and just because one doesn't address problems in their lyrics doesn't mean that they don't confront and face problems in the "real world," day to day. i'd hope you might someday consider that some of the anticon crew might be legitimate good artists (a few are great imo) whether you like them or not.
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2003-01-07 11:34 [#00505298]
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my parents have money
i don't.
i have no job or nothin. i download almost all of my music
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anticulture
from United Kingdom on 2003-01-07 11:44 [#00505314]
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i'm just getting into anticon, it appears sole has a bit of a reputation for being arrogant n pretentious - i havn't heard him enough to know...
i really like def jux though, el-p, aesop rock, rjd2 n cannibal ox are all very good, think mr lif is next up on the list.
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jupitah
from Minneapolis (United States) on 2003-01-07 12:28 [#00505364]
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sole is a bit pretentious, depending on which song you're in, though most of that rep is based in his battles with el-p i think. a lot of his music is just goodhearted love for hip hop, and the occasional statement that stands out as quite mature in hip hop, always a breath of fresh air.
anticon may never interest you, but i recomend deep puddle dynamics to all hip hop fans. it's classic.
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-01-07 14:37 [#00505523]
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yea i'm not (and i don't think i was before) calling the whole clicque pretentious, i'm just telling you the vibe i get off them when i hear their songs. i mean i feel like they're the type of people i've been around for years. truthfully i've never heard a full album by anyone on anticon. is buck 65 with anticon? i was gonna download square to check him out.
you have to admit that addressing all the problems is not a requierment to be a good rapper.
of course not... and i don't mean to make it seem like that's all i listen to either. i mean, one of my fav groups, outkast, have a perfect balance between the serious and the amusing. and del is pretty comical most of the time. pharoahe monch has plenty of fun with his songs, as does mos def, etc. but some people on here would prefer to think of hip-hop lyrics as trite and predictable which they're not (necessarily).
and nigel how do you afford drugs but not cd's? and aren't you just a couple years younger than i am? how can you have no money d00d?
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2003-01-07 14:48 [#00505527]
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who said anything about affording drugs?
i've spent maybe $10 on drugs in my life.
i know where my dads stash is and both my parents are borderline alcoholics
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-01-07 14:54 [#00505530]
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that sucks.. well anyway i'm just sayin that i don't understand how people can just not buy music, but maybe my priorities are fucked (i never buy clothes, don't buy video games cos i don't play 'em, rarely go out).
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weltact
from Taiwan on 2004-06-28 16:05 [#01259109]
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spot on!
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010101
from Vancouver (Canada) on 2004-06-28 16:09 [#01259110]
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here
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welt
on 2004-06-28 16:14 [#01259111]
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gang starr - moment of truth
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DeadEight
from vancouver (Canada) on 2004-06-28 16:25 [#01259118]
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tough fucking question... here's two responses
old school: ATCQ- Midnight Marauders (and yes, i realize it isn't THAT old school... it's more golden age or something.... but it's probably my favourite older hip hop album)
new(er) school: Quasimoto- the Unseen
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Dannn_
from United Kingdom on 2004-06-28 16:31 [#01259121]
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I have hardly bought any hiphop since the scene died but there's still the odd worthwhile release.
A lot of my favourites have been mentioned but everybody who isn't a cunt should buy Ultramagnetic MCs - Critical Beatdown to prove it. It's classic!
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DeadEight
from vancouver (Canada) on 2004-06-28 16:32 [#01259125]
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"since the scene died"?????????
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-06-28 17:09 [#01259155]
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im loving the new beastie boys album...it's great!!!
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axion
from planet rock (Sweden) on 2004-06-28 19:45 [#01259317]
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Gangstar-Moment Of Truth
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KainiIndustries
from over the roof floats billy on 2004-06-28 19:51 [#01259320]
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Another vote for Enter the Wu-tang here.
honourable mentions: NWA:Straight outta Compton, De la Soul:3 feet high and rising, Jay-Z:The Black Album.
I'm going by the traditional definition of hip-hop, so excluding people like Shadow and cLOUDDEAD. Otherwise the list would be a lot longer
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Gwely Mernans
from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2004-06-28 19:52 [#01259321]
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outcast - aquemini
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od_step_cloak
from Pleth (Australia) on 2004-06-28 20:38 [#01259336]
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Well I've only really gotten into hiphop about a year (tops) ago, but the CD that I've gotten into the most so far is
Aesop Rock's Labor Days
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neetta
from Finland on 2004-06-28 23:52 [#01259368]
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i have only recently got into hiphop.
i have been listening to the clouddead 10" things and ten, and book of human language by aceyalone, apc, plus some magnificent finnish hiphop. it's amazing when you start really concentrating on how these mc's use their voice as an instrument. but i don't like music with a 'laid-back' or pretentious sound so i guess there will never be too many hiphop artists for me to like
i have to say that i lolled on earthleakages comment on the top of this thread. el-p will always make me think of emerson, lake and palmer.
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pf
from Finland on 2004-06-29 05:37 [#01259519]
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What finnish hiphop artists?
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-crazone
from smashing acid over and over on 2004-06-29 05:42 [#01259522]
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NWA and EPMD is good for me
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pf
from Finland on 2004-06-29 05:48 [#01259533]
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DM & Jemini The Gifted One - Ghetto Pop Life.. love the beats and like the rhymes
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purlieu
from Leeds (United Kingdom) on 2004-06-29 06:10 [#01259555]
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Quite how people are not answering Illmatic by Nas, I don't know, but it wins.
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2004-06-29 07:25 [#01259616]
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Nellyville!
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Dannn_
from United Kingdom on 2004-06-29 07:29 [#01259619]
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Dead Eight - I used to listen to almost nothing but hiphop until about a few years ago when I realised that I couldn't possibly care less about any of the new releases. Nas was clearly on a downhill slope after Stillmatic, Wu-Tang were going nowhere, Redman the same... Rawkus fell apart and Talib Kweli put out a very bland album, Mobb Deep went soft, Eminem signed 50 Cent. All the underground hiphop is too pretentious, or talentlessness masquerading as innovation, and everything nearing mainstream is idiot fodder in some capacity. There hasn't been a new artist worth the time of day for years, the only really good albums have been old folks like Beastie Boys, Ghostface, Masta Ace.
Thats what I think anyway.
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Mertens
from Motor City (United States) on 2004-06-29 07:56 [#01259632]
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For me race doesn't matter. Its all about content and skill. Just because you're Chineese doesn't mean your kung-fu is strongest. I do think cultural identity influences the subject matter of rappers which is great cause you get a variety of different perspectives when they 'keep it real'. I do find I relate a bit more to the introspective lyrics of white rappers like Sage Francis and Alias and Aesop Rock. But then there's Vast Aire, MF Doom, Gift of Gap, Lyrics Born, Anti-Pop, and my all time favorite, Illogic. That guy's the top dog in my book.
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2004-06-29 08:12 [#01259644]
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actually it has been scientifically proven that Chinese people are better at kung-fu then anyone else!
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somejerk
from south florida, US (United States) on 2004-06-29 08:45 [#01259693]
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eh, way too much hiphop to narrow it down to one.
mos def and talib kweli - black star common - resurrection the roots - things fall apart de la soul - stakes is high souls of mischief - 93 til infinite dr. octagon - dr. octagynocologyst beastie boys - pauls botique
i'm really into early 90's hiphop, so i'm a bit biased as i'm sure you can tell from above...
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-06-29 08:56 [#01259706]
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im getting into hip hop every day more...and im not getting any younger...is this normal?
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pf
from Finland on 2004-06-29 09:53 [#01259803]
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Dont think so..
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2004-06-29 10:08 [#01259814]
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do you wear the addidas sneakers, and big gold medallions and stuff too? I bet you're a break dancing machine!
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afxNUMB
from So.Flo on 2004-06-29 10:11 [#01259817]
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TRIBE CALLED QUEST MIDNIGHT MARAUDERS!
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-06-29 10:12 [#01259818]
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i wear addidas shoes, but no medalions...hmm, i wonder where could i get those...
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Dannn_
from United Kingdom on 2004-06-29 10:18 [#01259823]
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All you need is a clock and a length of rope
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-06-29 10:19 [#01259824]
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isn't that too oldschool?
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2009-02-23 17:04 [#02274532]
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Redman - Muddy Waters
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Indeksical
from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2009-02-23 17:12 [#02274536]
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Today it is Madvillain - Madvillainy. Yesterday it was The Roots - Things Fall Apart. The day before that it was Snoop Doggy Dogg - Doggystyle. This list could go on forever...
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Cliff Glitchard
from DEEP DOWN INSIDE on 2009-02-23 17:20 [#02274541]
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eric b and rakim - follow the leader
or
ultra magnetic mc's - critical beatdown
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Indeksical
from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2009-02-23 17:25 [#02274542]
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Both of those are very fuckable.
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IronLung
from the 91fwy in soCAL (United States) on 2009-02-23 17:25 [#02274543]
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good call
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2009-02-23 17:34 [#02274545]
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Dr. Octagon - The Octogonacologist Tribe Called Quest - Low End Theory Quasimoto - The Unseen Dr. Dre - The Chronic Digital Underground - Sex Packets Wu-tang Clan - Enter the Wu-Tang: 36 Chambers
and I'm actually really loving Mr. Nogatco - Nogatco Road
These are what i most listen to when i want hip-hop
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Tractern
from Brighton (United Kingdom) on 2009-02-23 18:12 [#02274560]
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How can you mention Anticon without applauding Them - Themselves as the best Hip-Hop album of all time ever? :)
Another Part of the clown's brain just fucking makes me melt with ecstacy. That there DoseOne sute knows how to flow! And Jel's percussion is fucking cool, too.
It is kinda IDM. I am surprised no one here has mentioned it already...
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2009-02-23 19:00 [#02274572]
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id say something popular cause u might have at least heard of the band and then maybe listen to it rather than the truth and u wont fucking bother cause its to fucking difficult to find
in the end i wont bother at all for both reasons
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2009-02-23 19:01 [#02274574]
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hip hop is fucking bullshit. great breaks ruined by wanky vocals. so deal with it.
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Indeksical
from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2009-02-23 19:14 [#02274579]
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Perhaps this is more your thing?
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Indeksical
from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2009-02-23 19:15 [#02274580]
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Bah those links don't work. Sorry.
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