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I doubt SAWII will grow on me...
 

offline Toejam from Perth (Australia) on 2002-12-27 23:18 [#00493262]
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Well, I finally got SAWII the other day, and I have to say
that it's....all right.

It's a good album to sleep to and to read books by etc, but
I'm really doubting that this album is all it's cracked up
to me. I just hope that eventually it will grow on me, but
for now it's very hard to digest.

:(



 

offline Toejam from Perth (Australia) on 2002-12-27 23:18 [#00493263]
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*cracked up to be*


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2002-12-27 23:21 [#00493266]
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I bought the CD on the day it was released and hated it.
Didn't listen to it for months, then one day I just had the
urge to put it on and from that point forth I have loved
it.

I think the problem is that it is nothing like you expect.
No matter what you were expecting SAWII was nothing like it,
but that is a sign of how much of a classic it is. :)


 

offline optimus prime on 2002-12-27 23:23 [#00493269]
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i put on rhubarb from time to time but that's about it.


 

offline Dolleater from Afrika Bambaataa on 2002-12-27 23:25 [#00493270]
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Dont listen to the album in the sense where your directly
concentrating on the music. Go outside for gods sake and
watch it become part of the environment.
Good ambie should be listened to activlely and passsively.
Its quite a trip to be in the middle of a bustling city with
some SawII in your ears.


 

offline optimus prime on 2002-12-27 23:28 [#00493271]
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that is, without a doubt, the single greatest avatar i have
ever seen.


 

offline teapot from Paddington (Australia) on 2002-12-27 23:29 [#00493274]
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i have enjoyed this album since day one, although nowadays
im slightly over it... but if you love this you would love
this band from where i am from called I/O

http://www.room40.org has samples :)


 

offline Toejam from Perth (Australia) on 2002-12-27 23:30 [#00493275]
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Dolleater's one? Yeah, sure is!


 

offline Dolleater from Afrika Bambaataa on 2002-12-27 23:31 [#00493277]
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Thank you Optimus and Toejam. Its the first one Ive ever
made.


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-12-27 23:33 [#00493278]
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sucks to be you dude. brilliant album!


 

offline Toejam from Perth (Australia) on 2002-12-27 23:36 [#00493280]
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Yeah, I like some of it heaps...like some of the songs are
my faves of all time, but the others....

I dunno about them.


 

offline b0nk from 1969 in the sunshine (United States) on 2002-12-28 00:32 [#00493314]
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put it aside for a while then go and listen and you will be
like " wat was i thinking this is the best album ever made "
usually works with me lol


 

offline Monoid from one source all things depend on 2002-12-28 03:22 [#00493340]
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SAWII is outdated, I mean some of the tracks sound
dated................


 

offline map from mülligen (Switzerland) on 2002-12-28 03:24 [#00493341]
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not each person can understand aphex twin's/blue calxs music
;)


 

offline Pigfarmer from Ipswich (United Kingdom) on 2002-12-28 03:53 [#00493351]
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I think the major problem is that this record in hyped out
to the max on this board. I love SAW2 but I prefer SAW1 but
I think you have to make your very own and personal ambient
expieriences to get into it. You cant compare this to the
actual IDM records, which are probably obvious entertaining
but not as DEEEEP as SAW2


 

offline Bob Mcbob on 2002-12-28 04:23 [#00493375]
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i like the 10th and 11th tracks on cd 2...but i just dont
have the patience to sit through most of the songs


 

offline nene from United States on 2002-12-28 09:22 [#00493583]
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yeah, stop listening. that can really ruin the album. sit
still and close your eyes. you might just have an
out-of-body experience.


 

offline BlatantEcho from All over (United States) on 2002-12-28 09:25 [#00493587]
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still sitting wrapped on my desk ToeJam, with SAW I and Go
Plastic and some AE stuff.

I kept my end of the bargain at least :)


 

offline od_step_cloak from Pleth (Australia) on 2002-12-28 09:29 [#00493589]
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i think as much as pushing ppl into drugs is really wrong
and stuff

it really does help if you listen to it stoned or on some
sort of hallucinogen

u have to be in the right frame of mine too, i havent been
in that frame of mind for months
but when you enjoy it, you don't just hear it, the album
really envelops you :)


 

offline Bill Burroughs from Colombia on 2002-12-28 09:54 [#00493596]
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most aphex stuff sounds old now.


 

offline jand from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-12-28 10:00 [#00493599]
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SAWII is old tho...nearly 10 yrs now so you can't expect it
to sound as "new" nowadays; a million others have picked up
AFXs sound so it's not gonna sound as original as it once
was...



 

offline Clic on 2002-12-28 10:17 [#00493606]
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So?


 

offline nekta from shezlick (United Kingdom) on 2002-12-28 11:30 [#00493648]
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i enjoy it in bits, leave it then listen to it, then leave
it again etc.
but it came into its own when i was listening to it when i
was at school and walking round everywhere with it seeping
through. take it for a walk!


 

offline boxrocket from mine (United States) on 2002-12-29 00:31 [#00494043]
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saw2 is great for sleeping2 or reading2 or fucking2 but it
is most moving for me when i'm in a busy frantic atmosphere,
so long as it's all i can hear. it has a fantastic way of
making you feel disjointed from your surroundings while
remaining in them, and maintaining a sharp alertness of what
is all around you at once.....it kind of makes me feel like
i'm watching a movie or dreaming....it heightens a sense of
perfect order and fluidity in seemingly chaotic hustle and
bustle of city life. i put it in while i was working one day
(in the kitchen of a busy restaurant) and it was fucking
perfect...literally made me feel a high of sorts...does this
make any sense or do i sound like a hippie or something?


 

offline Toejam from Perth (Australia) on 2002-12-29 00:48 [#00494056]
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I'll have to try all these methods...

I've been playing it quietly in the background while reading
the new book "Abarat" by Clive Barker. They seem to work
perfectly together.

The brilliant Abarat site


 

offline Glitch from New Zealand on 2002-12-29 03:02 [#00494177]
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yeah.. . the over hype was the biggest problem.. . brought
it one trip and it was supposed to be the highlight of the
score of cds I brought.. . but Im finding like most aphex
twin.. . that with time I have trouble even mustering the
interest to listen to it.. . so much better music out
there.. . and unfortunately for the few aphex twins albums I
own I have a lot of brilliant music. ..

if your after quite possibly the best ambient music ever get
Biosphere's "Substrata" thats one album I dont think can be
overhyped. ..



 

offline YosepH on 2012-07-09 00:16 [#02437160]
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what over hype?


 

offline JivverDicker from my house on 2012-07-09 00:38 [#02437163]
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If you were to answer that old IDM question honestly you
would answer yourself.


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2012-07-09 18:48 [#02437215]
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Cool. pOgO still has my Clive Barker compendium (only 9
years love, no rush to return it ;)) and I'd forgotten all
about his work. Just DLed the sample of the first Arabat
book for my Kindle.


 

offline illfates from space (United States) on 2012-07-10 00:55 [#02437240]
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i love the shit out of SAWII. :)



 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2012-07-10 01:36 [#02437244]
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What about that one track that goes like this:
"Sail away, sail away, sail away!...
Sail away, sail away, sail away!...
Sail away, sail away, sail away!...
Sail away, sail away, sail away!...
I didn't let my sister ever see my poo...
I didn't let my sister ever see my poo...
I didn't let my sister ever see my poo...
I didn't let my sister ever see my poo..."

That song is kinda like SAW II, right guys?


 

offline pac_1231 from Misery (United States) on 2012-07-11 23:07 [#02437370]
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I love how dark some of the tracks are, some serious RAW
emotion. But yea the most darkest metal/screamo shit that
comes out these days cant even be compared to tracks like
Tassels or Matchsticks.


 

offline Dael from the low end (Australia) on 2012-07-17 10:36 [#02437645]
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One of my favourite albums from Richard. Absolutely blew me
away when I first bought it and whilst I haven't listened to
it for a while I still hold this in highest regard of
ambient. Made me realise just how powerfull negative spaces
can be in ambient music. (IMO)


 

offline Jaser from Castle Greyskull (United Kingdom) on 2012-07-17 10:45 [#02437646]
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you need to play it pretty loud, to get the most out of it.
Not through little computer speakers like most people seem
to do nowadays.


 

offline Dael from the low end (Australia) on 2012-07-17 10:59 [#02437647]
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good suggestion Jaser,. At the very least listen to it
through some decent headphones.


 

offline RussellDust on 2012-07-17 14:41 [#02437652]
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When i sleep i don't leave music on as it's a bit silly
really (I can't find the 'Omelette du Fromage' episode of
Dexter's Laboratory). When i read books i tend to avoid
putting music on too you silly prick!

Maybe i could get a book and it's audio version. So i'm
reading it, and listening to someone else reading it. we'll
be best off keeping it in sync though i doubt Stephen Fry
would make musch effort to keep up with me.


 

offline Jaser from Castle Greyskull (United Kingdom) on 2012-07-17 17:54 [#02437661]
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I still listen to it on my car stereo with the bass turned
up on max, on tape. It is all warm, wobbly and womb-like.
The CD is a bit cool sounding to me. This new bootleg
reissue is mastered off the CD. Pointless. IMO. Boo :(


 

offline magicant from Canada on 2012-07-21 16:31 [#02437790]
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Agreed. I saw the vinyl reissue in the store and just about
creamed my pants. I went on the Internet and read articles
about it in which exclusive vinyl tracks were embedded from
Youtube. Put on the record only to find that those exclusive
tracks weren't on it. Major disappointment. To boot, there
were ripping sounds through the second side.

I returned it, explaining that the 6 circles on the back
didn't match the tracks on the record and that this was
probably a bogus CD rip. I was happy I actually got my money
back. Picked up "scintilli" instead.


 

offline diamondtron on 2012-07-21 17:52 [#02437791]
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lovely night drive music, the cassette format for this was
great


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2012-07-21 20:53 [#02437794]
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i remember reading an amazon.com review of SAW II in which
the chap said something like, "i just got this CD; was
driving around in the car with my friend, and we put this
on. next thing we knew, there were car horns honking. we
realized we'd both been zoning out at a green light for
thirty seconds"

saw II has that sort of effect on me too.


 

offline Borgnine on 2012-07-23 15:31 [#02437900]
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Not everyone can have good taste


 


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