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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-12-03 19:10 [#00467042]
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mm.. that does sound nice..
but I really can't STAND Yes or any prog.. really hate it.. oh well..
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2002-12-03 19:15 [#00467046]
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IDM *is* prog, except it borrows from 20th century classical instead of 18th-19th century classical.
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2002-12-03 19:28 [#00467053]
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I cant believe some of this shit you people are saying.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2002-12-03 19:53 [#00467078]
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wuddyamean?
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b0nk
from 1969 in the sunshine (United States) on 2002-12-03 21:21 [#00467166]
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sportin the new avatar, rarr what happened to that feiss girl lol
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2002-12-03 21:23 [#00467170]
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She is in the shop for a few mods.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2002-12-03 21:28 [#00467174]
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Wait, she's back! Now that is one hot little santa's helper.
I think I just stuffed my own stocking.
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satyricon69
from United States on 2002-12-03 22:27 [#00467225]
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check out http://www.quitpaxil.org --
remember that SSRI drugs like paxil, prozac, and seroxat are drugs like any other, and unfortunately because of the fact that the the pharmaceutical companies are a huge source of advertising revenue for media companies, they're way less likely to publish the volumes of negative information about these drugs on the news when it might hurt their chance to get paid tons of cash to show commercials of people looking at the camera saying 'i just don't feel right'. it's not widely known, but these are highly addictive drugs with a large number of side effects that range from mild to severe. read up.
here's an interesting bbc news article: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/panorama/2310197.stm
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jand
from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-12-03 22:41 [#00467238]
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One thing to remember about the suicide stats associated with anti-d's is that depressed people commit suicide anyway....
so blaming it on the anti-ds is just a little off....
SSRIs are a life saver...compared to the old TCAs they are amazing....
(claim to fame....I was in the first 100 to try Seroxat when it became available in the UK...)...
Don't be snobby about Anti-D Meds BTW...a lot of shit is spoken about em but a lot of people owe their live to em....
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Vit C
from Glasgow (United Kingdom) on 2002-12-03 22:54 [#00467256]
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Physical exercise works well..... I'm sure this is true, it certainly bosts endorphins or somesuch chemical in the body that subsequently makes you feel a bit *high*. However I was very deppresed and even this eventually led to problems such as," why am I alone when I exercise" I know I should of jooined a club instead of doing it on my on but I was too sick .... you see the problem here :-)
Somebody mentioned the long term affect of taking medication, that eventually you experience neither ups nor downs and YEs surprise surprise this had put a serious downer on my so far brilliant! morning I have nothing to say to this except that I have to trust the doctors If it weren't for them I wouldn't be here to say this and so -yous chose your path now follow with it or even you made your bed now lie in it .... I'm deppresed now no-one will ever love me I'll be alone for ever -excuse me.
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jand
from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-12-03 23:00 [#00467269]
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I love ya, Vit....my shoulders are built to cry on....
(and E me anytime if you ever wanna discuss depression etc....sadly I know a lot about depression, mental illness etc...)...
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jand
from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-12-03 23:02 [#00467273]
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the "not feeling anything" is bollocks...
Anti-ds flatten your mood (taking out all the highs & lows) whilst you are taking them but they don't turn you into a Zombie....just someone more able to cope...
And depression does pass....believe me on this...
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Vit C
from Glasgow (United Kingdom) on 2002-12-03 23:03 [#00467275]
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comforting words there Jand -I think, sort of :D
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-12-03 23:04 [#00467282]
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"And depression does pass....believe me on this..."
depends... some peope never get over it.
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2002-12-03 23:05 [#00467284]
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Listen to jand
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jand
from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-12-03 23:07 [#00467294]
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as in anything, Z, there are degrees of depression....
On the bright side, it's been proven that most creative people suffer from depression at one time or another (or constantly.)...
YOU CAN USE IT AS CREATIVE FUEL....
keep that in mind...
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jand
from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-12-03 23:10 [#00467303]
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I hope so, Vit.... the worse part of depression is the feeling is that it will never stop....often time is as good a healer as any pills so hang on it there...
and remember, us lot are always here if you wanna talk....despite the distance between us, I do think of you lot as my friends....
(hehe...I'm getting all sloppy now..)..
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jand
from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-12-03 23:12 [#00467315]
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Vit....have you ever read LIFE AFTER GOD by Douglas Coupland....
if not, go grab a copy....if money is a problem then let me know and I'll get one in post to ya....
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Vit C
from Glasgow (United Kingdom) on 2002-12-03 23:14 [#00467321]
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I'm laughing at this zeus don't know why
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Vit C
from Glasgow (United Kingdom) on 2002-12-03 23:16 [#00467326]
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Jand your too kind , no really douglas copeland eh did he not write te beach or something ?
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Vit C
from Glasgow (United Kingdom) on 2002-12-03 23:17 [#00467328]
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what's it about anyway?
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princo
from Shitty City (Geelong) (Australia) on 2002-12-03 23:17 [#00467329]
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Let "Jand" lend you a helping "Hand" ! :D
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Vit C
from Glasgow (United Kingdom) on 2002-12-03 23:19 [#00467332]
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and remember, us lot are always here if you wanna talk....despite the distance between us, I do think of you lot as my friends....
I could say something horrid here but I refrain.:
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Vit C
from Glasgow (United Kingdom) on 2002-12-03 23:19 [#00467334]
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huh?
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Vit C
from Glasgow (United Kingdom) on 2002-12-03 23:20 [#00467337]
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sniggers nervously !
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jand
from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-12-03 23:22 [#00467340]
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the beach is by Alex Garland...
Life after god is difficult to describe...but a key theme is coping with depression...
I've probably bought about 10 copies & eneded up giving em to friends etc....believe me, it will help...(especically the last story in there, Life after God...)...
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Vit C
from Glasgow (United Kingdom) on 2002-12-03 23:25 [#00467348]
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Well you might be right. You're from Chelsford UK tis nice this time of year ?
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Vit C
from Glasgow (United Kingdom) on 2002-12-03 23:26 [#00467350]
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I've been thinking about God a bit moe than usual lately but I guess we don't want to go there...
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jand
from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-12-03 23:35 [#00467362]
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hehe...no Chelmsford is awful more or less all the year....
ps...LAG isn't religous BTW...just in case anyone was wondering....
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neetta
from Finland on 2002-12-04 00:08 [#00467407]
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thanks everyone. nice thoughts on this.
i think i will see some other doctor. i have already seen a few and they all had totally different ideas about my situation.
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-12-04 00:11 [#00467412]
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"I'm laughing at this zeus don't know why"
zuh?
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C738
from Outer Space on 2002-12-04 01:09 [#00467481]
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Good luck Neetta! :)
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Morton
from out (Netherlands, The) on 2002-12-04 01:16 [#00467485]
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*another good luck from this side*
just remember: every cloud has a silver lining... "na regen komt zonneschijn" we say in holland
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C738
from Outer Space on 2002-12-04 01:22 [#00467489]
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"Geen berg zo hoog of we leggen er wel een tunnel door"
(Not a mountain that high, or we can build a tunnel through it)
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C738
from Outer Space on 2002-12-04 01:23 [#00467490]
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Morton...
"waar zouden we zijn zonder de trein?"
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Morton
from out (Netherlands, The) on 2002-12-04 01:25 [#00467492]
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yes yes C738 i know that "ik niet spoor" but that's because there's "blad op de rails"
i decided not to go working at the NS.. but let's not discuss this in this serious thread..
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flea
from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-12-04 01:36 [#00467507]
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Zeus..what I meant was.. how are the Zoloft's trating you because IO am contemplating switching to them..do they like knock you about..side effects..do feel drowsy (biggest problem with my current drug) or energetic?...etc etc...
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-12-04 02:50 [#00467585]
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"ps...LAG isn't religous BTW...just in case anyone was wondering...."
He he, just in case we thought Jand was a MB evangelist handing out tracts in the guise of books on depression ;)
I'm sure I've seen that book at my parents' house somewhere... probably my dad's. I'll hunt a copy down.
Does anyone else find that when they're "up" they feel that the lows are never actually as bad as they seem at the time and that it's actually a richer life experiencing a wider band of emoitions than most people?
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bill_hicks
from my city is amazing it is calle on 2002-12-04 02:55 [#00467590]
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i prefer to medicate not meditate -
Zyspin Fluoxetine Seroxat Half -indrella
it's all good. Happiness in a pill. guaranteed.
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Braindancecandy
from United States on 2002-12-04 02:59 [#00467593]
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2 Zanex, 4 ice beers (Millwaukees Best), and 2 joints had me felling pretty damn happy.
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Morton
from out (Netherlands, The) on 2002-12-04 04:00 [#00467623]
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hm.. look in this thread how much points C738 has at this moment...
he just went away, let's hope he's not been taken by the devil...
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C738
from Outer Space on 2002-12-04 04:13 [#00467635]
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llaw a tsniaga daeh ruoy gnab!
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Braindancecandy
from United States on 2002-12-04 04:14 [#00467636]
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Is being taken by the devil a bad thing? =P
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-12-04 04:15 [#00467639]
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he he :)
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Morton
from out (Netherlands, The) on 2002-12-04 04:24 [#00467652]
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esuoh ym ni sllaw yna evah t'nod I ,od t'nac on yrros
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pOgO
from behind your belly button fluff on 2002-12-04 08:46 [#00467820]
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I've been on prozac and the resulst were NOT good =o(
I think sometimes you do need a little bit of chemical help to get you started, but you shouldent need to rely on it
I ended up on some very mild anti depressant which just gave me that little boost to get me out of bed and start doing things, the rest came on it's own
Doctors seem to eager to dish out prozac and my recommendation to anyone with depression is to avoid prozac like tha plague !!!!!!!!
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2002-12-04 09:26 [#00467885]
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Hopefully Santa brings me a lifetime supply or Prozac, Zoloft, Paxil, and various others.
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Kcytrx
from Netherlands, The on 2002-12-04 09:28 [#00467886]
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prozac turns you in to a happy little zombie with no libido.
it also stimulates commiting suicides, as suicide rates are higher with prozac users, then users of other anti-depressants
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2002-12-04 09:46 [#00467916]
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Go to a rave and POP some quality "E".
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-12-04 09:59 [#00467931]
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As Jand said- could this be because prozac users are the most messed up rather than? Rather than the drug itself?
Monoid: May be anti-drug propaganda, but I heard on the radio one of the long term effects of E is greater susceptibility to depression...
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