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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-11-01 18:24 [#00424427]
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can anyone think of any other unreleased material to add to this list? to qualify it has to never have been commercially released (so AB5, CW, and MFM count)
---------- lp's: melodies from mars caustic window (the album) AB5 "analogue bar 1"
ep's: q-chastic peel session 1 peel session 2
songs: aphextwin.org "song from tape" crappy brivert & muons (mike & rich)
remixes: craig david misc. unknown from forthcoming collection
misc.: SAW 85-92 is compiled from 13 90-minute tapes of music supposed stolen mp3 player full of afx and sqp tracks unreleased songs played live (eg: NASA tour 3 songs; "random bullties")
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-11-01 18:24 [#00424428]
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forthcoming collaborations w/ squarepusher on warp dvd
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-11-01 18:25 [#00424429]
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lemonheads "remix" (actually an old unreleased track)
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2002-11-01 18:28 [#00424430]
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All the stuff on his computer that he's deemed to weird to release.
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-11-01 18:28 [#00424431]
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yea.. eg: "advanced" piano tracks
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2002-11-01 18:38 [#00424440]
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WTF i've never heard of some of these
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2002-11-01 18:40 [#00424441]
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I really want to hear those most.
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supreme
from Antwerp (Belgium) on 2002-11-01 18:54 [#00424447]
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flex?
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-11-01 19:49 [#00424497]
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flex... mostly that was just stuff from saw2, drukqs, and perc #6, but it DID have some new sounds to it. joyrex claims rdj backed out of doing a full fledged (original) score to it so i don't think there's really any unreleased music.
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supreme
from Antwerp (Belgium) on 2002-11-01 19:50 [#00424498]
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oh... it was just a thought..
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2002-11-01 19:53 [#00424500]
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He has to release a box set full of rarities and whatnot.
He HAS to... because I said so.
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-11-01 22:46 [#00424653]
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joyrex?
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Joyrex
from watmm.com (United States) on 2002-11-01 22:49 [#00424659]
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I have some stuff but I promised not to distribute it.
Perhaps someday when I get really disillusioned with Aphex :)
Actually, it was 11 C90 cassettes given to Tom Middleton (which he says unfortunately were destroyed when his home flooded some time ago).
So, no chance getting those.
I do have the complete Melodies From Mars, and original cassette made from the original DAT.
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Joyrex
from watmm.com (United States) on 2002-11-01 22:50 [#00424663]
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And I own AB5 on vinyl as well, and the most complete MP3s of the Peel Sessions I've found yet.
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-11-01 22:52 [#00424666]
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joy... who the hell are you man?
i think you're the owner of warp... you got twoism and all this other nice stuff
what kind of mad connections do you have man?!?!
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-11-01 22:53 [#00424669]
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that's cool. how about a short review of some of the stuff you have? we understand you can't distribute it but i don't think descriptions would cause any harm.
as for the 90min tapes, surely other people had it. it's typical for unsigned artists to distribute a lot of demo tapes and i'm sure rdj was no different.
as for MFM and AB5, which you have source or 1st generation copies of, how about some fresh mp3's when you have some spare time from working on watmm, dealing with your family, etc.?
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Joyrex
from watmm.com (United States) on 2002-11-01 23:01 [#00424682]
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Well, I guess the best (and most general) description I can give is it's about 7 years old, and ranges from Caustic Window sounding dance stuff to Ventolin-era material, and a bit of MFM outtakes for good measure. About 15 tracks or so that was sent to me on a MD from a (as Jand likes to put it) person who "cannot be named". :)
Well, RDJ gave his friends loads of these tapes (his friends were the ones who helped him put the tracklisting for SAW 85-92 together), so I reckon some of them might have them - I almost got some of them a few years back when I was friendly with Paul, the guy who designed the Aphex logo. He said he had tons of cassettes Richard gave to him when they toured back in 90-91 era (Paul was his dancer then), and some of it was released material, but most of it was not. Unfortunately, let's just say things didn't pan out.
MFM is an original cassette (with RDJ's handwriting on it) and AB5 is an original test pressing that I have already recorded a high quality version onto CD (did this on a Rega deck).
If I ever get enough time to finish watmm and get the discogs up and running, I'll see what I can find time to do then.
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-11-01 23:10 [#00424698]
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sorry things didn't pan out with paul, and went sour between you and rdj (that's your business, not mine.. i'm not on anyone's side).. i hope those tapes get found though, that'd be great
it'd be excellent to get mp3's of AB5 and MFM from you! great service to all afx fans.
while we're on this subject, what IS analogue bar 1?
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Joyrex
from watmm.com (United States) on 2002-11-01 23:15 [#00424702]
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Analogue Bar 1 (from what I can gather) was the name for a bunch of piano tracks Richard was working on and was going to release under that title.
I think we all know what happened to those piano tracks :)
Richard had said for years that he wanted to do an album of just piano tracks...DrukQs was the result of that.
Don't count on ever getting Q-Chastic though - Richard only has a DAT of it, and not even Grant has copies (vinyl or otherwise) anymore.
Grant says they are nothing special, but I'd like to hear them anyways.
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-11-01 23:36 [#00424716]
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yea, i as well, even if i end up not liking it. mike p says if it exists it's not in the rephlex stockroom or rdj's house (which means it's probably on a dat at his parents' house, blah blah blah).
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Joyrex
from watmm.com (United States) on 2002-11-01 23:38 [#00424718]
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You are 100% correct - before things er, 'fell apart', Rich was going to send me clips of it and CAT023 for joyrex.com in exchange for a bootleg of his 2001 Sonar show (which I still sent regardless of what occured).
Oh well, cest la vie!
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-11-01 23:42 [#00424726]
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what's cat023?
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Joyrex
from watmm.com (United States) on 2002-11-01 23:45 [#00424732]
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The unreleased Caustic Window quad LP - I have scans of it, and er, if the aphex twin watmm discog was up, I'd direct you to them :(
There is an article on watmm about it, in the aphex twin section, where Mike P (one of the 4 owners) describes each track in detail.
I need to stop chatting and get back to work! :)
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-11-01 23:47 [#00424735]
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it's cool, i can wait till it's up.. did it have actual artwork or was it blank with some labeling?
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Joyrex
from watmm.com (United States) on 2002-11-01 23:51 [#00424741]
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Blank with Richard's handwriting in pen, which Mike P went over with in magic marker.
He only scanned sides A and B for me...need to get him to do sides C and D as well.
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-11-01 23:54 [#00424744]
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know of any other full releases on the cutting room floor, so to speak?
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splodgechops
from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-11-02 03:47 [#00424849]
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I heard some of those tapes Tom Middleton had. This was before the first SAW was released. Lots of unreleased stuff, but the main ones that stuck in my mind did eventually come out (Polynomial C; X-tal; Supremacy II; Quoth; Tha) but a few didn't: an early version of X-tal without the breakbeat (all drum machine) was much better and didn't have all the bad quality. Human Rotation sounded like Supremacy 2 but was better. There were a couple of ravey things with cheesy samples and some 8-bit sounding bangra-breakbeat-aphex-acid. Only flicked through a couple of tapes though.
Joyrex: The CAT 23 labels were already magic marked when I got them btw.
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Binaural Tea
from Christmas City (Christmas Island) on 2002-11-02 09:01 [#00424980]
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are there many of them?
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-11-02 10:50 [#00425013]
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since rdj doesn't have to worry about making money, do you think he'll release any of his back catalogue of unreleased tracks someday? i understand why he (claims he) doesn't want to put out his most recent material, saying other artists will rip off his innovations, but it'd be nice if he gave us some of his older tracks as freebies.
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-11-02 10:54 [#00425016]
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especially that xtal remix, that's my favorite song on saw 82-92..
well, as i said in an earlier post, i'm sure his demo tapes were pretty widely distributed in the uk, so it's something for you brits to keep an eye out for.. not in stores but in the private collections of people, especially those who might've retired from the clubs and started families or whatever
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patrik
from Keele (United Kingdom) on 2002-11-02 11:03 [#00425029]
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you've got saw 82-92!!!! where did you get it????!!!
lol
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Ctrl Alt Del
from Ft. Worth (United States) on 2002-11-02 11:12 [#00425040]
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here:
saw 85-92 @ cdnow.com
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2002-11-02 12:41 [#00425155]
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I got an email from aphextwin.org, with that "song from tape" as an attachment--so it's legitimate, because I don't remember asking for it--it just turned up in my inbox one day and I was a bit wary
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-11-02 12:42 [#00425162]
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it's a pretty good song, i wish there were othe "tape" songs online
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2002-11-02 14:27 [#00425402]
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Mike why dont you show the community some love, and upload what you have ?! Eh ?
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-11-02 14:30 [#00425407]
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i don't think he'll be doing that considering he and rdj are such good friends
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2002-11-02 14:31 [#00425411]
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hey, if splodgechops is µ-ziq, I've always wondered how the collaboration on Mike'n'Rick went: like, how did you go about doing it and all that stuff---
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-11-02 14:35 [#00425416]
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check splodgechops' last 25 msg's, he explained it a few days/weeks ago
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LeCoeur
from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2002-11-02 14:40 [#00425424]
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i wanna hear the NINA SIMONE REMIX!!!
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2002-11-02 15:23 [#00425467]
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sounds rad--I'll check it out RIGHT NOW.
I note I said Rick instead of Rich in my last post.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2002-11-02 15:29 [#00425471]
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"No, I slept while Richard finished the tracks."
bah humbug.
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Polynomial-C
from Netherlands, The on 2002-11-02 15:33 [#00425475]
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What about Aphex Airlines???
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-11-02 15:51 [#00425497]
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that was on a compilation
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Joyrex
from watmm.com (United States) on 2002-11-04 15:55 [#00427790]
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You can read an interview I did with Mike in the Aphex section on watmm where he talks about working with Rich on Mike and Rich.
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-11-04 15:57 [#00427792]
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do you have any new interviews in the pipeline? it's cool when non-journalists do interviews (eg: theninhotline.net interviews with chris vrenna and alan moulder). i'm working on some interviews myself, but i'm shopping for the best place to put them (i don't think it'll be my own endeavor, PHUX, as i haven't given that site its due for years)
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-11-04 16:03 [#00427794]
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reading this interview.. i thought i had seen it before, but i haven't. nicely done, some interesting info for sure.
it struck me as kinda amusing tho how you're interviewing one of the most esteemed electronic musicians about... someone else! hehe. then again, it's nothing new, i've read tons of "X on Y" type articles and they're quite intriguing.
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Phresch
from fucking Trondheim (Norway) on 2002-11-04 16:26 [#00427806]
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i hope the craig david remix is on the tracklisting for the new remix album...hehe.
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xian_ecci
from los angeles on 2002-11-04 16:50 [#00427818]
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JOYREX- "back in 90-91 era (Paul was his dancer then), " could you expand on this role?
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Joyrex
from watmm.com (United States) on 2002-11-04 23:43 [#00428433]
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Paul Nicholson (www.p21.co.uk) was a friend of Richard and when Rich was doing the NASA/See The Light tour back then, Paul would be Richard's "stage act" where he would dance around manically on stage while Richard huddled behind his 'fake' gear.
Richard has been known in the past to employ female body builders (I've got some video from the Big Day Out show with him lying on stage, and the bodybuilders flexing and the Donkey Rhubears flailing about...classic stuff), midgets, and other stage performers.
Paul is also a brilliant designer (see his aforementioned Tee shirt design site), and he was the one who designed the Aphex Twin logo and 'font' that was used on Xylem Tube and later SAW 2. He also took Richard's photography and created the concepts behind SAW 2's tracksystem (see the other article on my site about Paul and how he did it). I've got another unfinished interview with Paul I need to finish (get in contact with him I guess after all these years) and post that as well.
Tits: yeah, it was really nice of Mike to talk to me about Rich, and one of these days I need to interview Mike on Mike - just haven't made/found the time. :/
Hope these tidbits helped!
Phresch: I dunno about the Craig David remix...I smell something fishy about it - I dunno, call it a hunch. :)
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jand
from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-11-05 01:15 [#00428469]
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I rememeber seeing Paul dancing a few times....very entertaining....
And yeah, he's a nice bloke...
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