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neetta
from Finland on 2002-08-26 20:13 [#00366031]
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well, today is my topic-starting day, but i'd like have some conversation about pictorial arts here too :)
i do a lot of painting anf the greatest result comes from good music (idm or trip hop) and painting experiences are really trippy for me. does anyone else have similar experiences? and yes, i do that sober.
also, i'd like to know what artists have made the greatest influence to all you art-intrested people out there?
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forck_02lynix
from brooklyn on 2002-08-26 20:30 [#00366041]
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music does influence my painting, never use drugs, idm/ambient is best for me.
influences: pollock, rauchenburg (sp?), lichenstein...
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pomme de terre
from obscure body in the SK System on 2002-08-26 20:30 [#00366045]
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I have totally had psychedellic experiences while painting! Never really talked about it with anyone however.
Painting I believe, along with composing music, constructing and a few other things, has the tendency to throw one back into an ancient Freudian state.
we pick up a paint brush and *BAM*, we're back in our caves munching on wooly mammoth and experiencing one of the first forms of expression.
at the time of ancient man, that transcendental moment of creating art had to be SO intense that it's no wonder one would feel a little strange when they start to rehash those memories. when our minds reach back that far, it would seem that we would become closer to that 'universal knowledge' that all of us have/had... not unlike a chemical aided psychedelic experience.
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LeCoeur
from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2002-08-26 20:34 [#00366048]
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i'm having computer issues....waaaaah
i hope this comment goes through cos several have NOT.
i have an art degree, my favourite artist is Vincent Van Gogh....his painting are like liquid light to me....so beautiful....sad.....tragic.....all at the SAME time. i would put my nose up to the glass to see his brush strokes....you could see the hair from the brush in some pieces. it was so fantastic it made me SHAKE!!
different things influence me, usually it's something i SEE. i'm more a visual person so while music can be wonderful it doesn't inspire me to make something. it's usually something from nature!
*crosses fingers this goes through*
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uzim
on 2002-08-26 20:38 [#00366052]
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i don't know how to make art or anything (i don't even know how to draw anything right), but today, i had 'ass itch by korn in my head, and i drew little characters killing themselves, or hung, or shooting other characters, on the front of a white polaroid with a black permanent marker (i regret not having had a red one too, to draw the blood...), and on the back of the polaroid, i drew a cute little devil, with both breasts and a penis (already seen the devil represented like that somewhere), holding a little flower, and grinning.
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neetta
from Finland on 2002-08-26 20:40 [#00366055]
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i'm doing my diploma of arts about the early finnish rockpaintings (which, of course, are much younger than the european ones because of the ice age) and it's one fantastic world in those!
no chemical could ever give the same experience an intensive painting session does. i just moved to the countryside do i could concentrate in my painting. (but i also have to study a bit at the same time and thats not so nice).
it's so sad that art isn't valued so highly nowadays than it was 100 years ago.
i just bought the greatest painting of a young russian artist. it costed me a lot but it really makes one feel good to invest in this way.
(ok thinking of all the records i would have gotten with the same money makes me just bit sad)
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uzim
on 2002-08-26 20:41 [#00366057]
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or some other time i had 'undertow' by tool in my head, it was 3am or anything and i was becoming mad because i couldn't sleep, so i lit up the lamp, took a pen and drew something very messy on the page of my diary... i remember there was an alarm-clock, a corpse, some monster grinning, and some other stuff on the drawing, but it was really messy (besides when i draw things they're usually very small)...
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forck_02lynix
from brooklyn on 2002-08-26 20:42 [#00366059]
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two times in.......
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neetta
from Finland on 2002-08-26 20:44 [#00366060]
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van gogh really is great :)
i love his way of using color. it's like he makes the color talk or something. i haven't quite figured it out yet :)
also, there are some great finnish symbolists i love, like hugo simberg (you've probably never even heard of him)
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Vit C
from Glasgow (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-26 20:48 [#00366066]
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Hans arp, Duchamp (Both Dadaists) and Dali.
More recently Chagall.
This is such a toughy I mean there's just so many good painters.
I've only done a little painting, just like to support the subject :-) Good one neeta
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neetta
from Finland on 2002-08-26 20:49 [#00366068]
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thanks.
dadaists are geniuses but i really can't put them on the same line as the rest of the artists of their time.
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forck_02lynix
from brooklyn on 2002-08-26 20:55 [#00366080]
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"look at my art"
"looks like a piece of shit"
"it is.."
"oh you must be a dadaist"
has anyone seen a dali in person? they're so freakin small!!!!
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neetta
from Finland on 2002-08-26 20:57 [#00366081]
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i have seen a few dalis. they were, well, lame.
lamer than i thought they would be.
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forck_02lynix
from brooklyn on 2002-08-26 20:59 [#00366083]
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yeah but theyre so freakin small! i never realized....oh well.
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pachi
from yo momma (United States) on 2002-08-26 21:03 [#00366092]
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when i do artwork it's all in mechanical #2 pencil, but listening to idm while doin so yields some nice results =)
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LeCoeur
from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2002-08-26 21:04 [#00366095]
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his use of colour was brilliant and revolutionary for his time.
people don't realize that enough!!
i will look that artist up on the internet and look at his work
klimt is also a favourite....=0)
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forck_02lynix
from brooklyn on 2002-08-26 21:07 [#00366099]
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my girlfriend loves klimt
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neetta
from Finland on 2002-08-26 21:08 [#00366101]
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http://www.artmagick.com/artists/simberg.aspx
here is one link with a little info.
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neetta
from Finland on 2002-08-26 21:12 [#00366111]
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hugo simberg somehow gets the whole idea if being a finn to me :)
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wildrover
from springfield (United States) on 2002-08-26 21:14 [#00366118]
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www.arcanegraphics.com click on bdt. thats me and a few other people doing a design by theme. each person comes up with a theme and the others have to evolve off it, theres only three themes up, but more to come.
as far as art on canvas is concerned, i've begun a series of fast drawn emotional pieces done as minimalistic as possible. my girlfriend asked me last night as i sketched her if i ever took my time and used detail, i said there was no time the moment would have been gone if i thought too hard about the sketch
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Sido Dyas
from a computer on 2002-08-26 21:15 [#00366120]
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I paint or atleast i used to. Me and raimons (from this board) had art as our main course in school.
It was a crappy education with crappy teachers. We learned nothing we didn't know before except for all the stuff about old boring artists.
But atleast we got to be creative and both me and Raimons are the types that go nuts if we don't.
Im gonna start painting again now when i have more time on my hands.
Maybe i will show you sometime.
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neetta
from Finland on 2002-08-26 21:19 [#00366125]
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well i used to be in a very good art school but i found that an oppressing and depressing enviroment. now i only get private evaluations of my art teacher. she comes to our house just to see my stuff.
art schools might give a nice technical aid but i've never found them to give anything to my actual creativity.
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-08-26 21:21 [#00366127]
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the movements that have made the greatest impression on my art are dadaism and post-impressionism, but i'm a fan of all eras of art from around the world. i'm most interested in modern art though.
my favorite museum in america is the american visionary art museum (link). it's art made by the insane or otherwise mentally "different". shockingly obsessive detail and strange concepts.
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neetta
from Finland on 2002-08-26 21:24 [#00366129]
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great to see some many civilised people here :)
thanks to you all :)
i'd really like to visit the us to see those modern art museums.
there was this great expedition in kiasma (the modern art museum of helsinki) called ars01. i went to several times and it really influenced me. i think the same expedition has been travelling around the world?
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LeCoeur
from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2002-08-26 21:30 [#00366137]
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cool thanx for ze link! i'm gonna go check it out right NOW!
and forck your girlfriend has EXCELLENT taste....tee hee
wildrover i'm gonna check out your site too
tits....that site is already bookmarked....i wanna check that place out
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-08-26 21:30 [#00366138]
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[plug] i'm working on a web site where people can put their artwork up for visitors to see, like an electronic gallery. i wish everyone posting in this thread would put their stuff up there, it's really a lot of fun. any format is fine: digital, scanned paintings, sketches, photos, etc.
link
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Jedi Chris
on 2002-08-26 22:00 [#00366178]
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It doesn't help if you have bad teachers does it? I think teachers should have continous assessment, so that they teach effectively!
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X-tomatic
from ze war room on 2002-08-26 22:10 [#00366190]
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Well first of all, hi, because I'm new to this board, and second, yes I absolutely agree that it is a trippy experience to paint while listening to music in the back. I am just working on a wallpainting and the music I play while painting is almost always "selected ambient works II". It has to be soothing music like that because I work with alot of detail. My influences come mainly from two dutch masters, "Hieronymus Bosch" and "Pieter Bruegel". After visiting the Bosch exposition in Rotterdam I've gotten some new respect for his works.
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Sido Dyas
from a computer on 2002-08-26 22:18 [#00366199]
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Welcome to the board! =) Wall painting huh? sounds like fun. So what are you painting on the wall?
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X-tomatic
from ze war room on 2002-08-26 23:06 [#00366271]
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right now, I'm painting a desert scene with the djoser pyramid on the wall. I'm going to theme my bedroom by making it look like an Egyptian tomb. Yes,been there and it made some impression on me :p.
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Sido Dyas
from a computer on 2002-08-26 23:13 [#00366281]
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Holy shit! you have been there! It has always been kind of a dream of mine to go there and see the pyramids with my own eyes.
I would sure like to see some photos of your painting when it is finished.
Really cool idea making your bedroom look like a egyptian tomb.
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wayout
from the street of crocodiles on 2002-08-27 02:28 [#00366616]
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hmm...i think my favorite painter would have to be edward hopper...
dali is great of course... i really like what ive seen by yves tanguy oh, and chuck close is really great..
i myself havent done much painting...yet at least.. ive only done one actually..
ive been really into photography lately though.. the only photographer that i would say has been influential to me, that i can think of of the top of my head would be uta barte (i think thats how you spell her name...)
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Mickey Mouse
from The Moon on 2002-08-27 04:32 [#00366704]
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I dont get these pyscadellic sensations... with listening to music... but I do get some really trippy things happening when I sketch in public.... like in a coffee shop... or at a nightclub... on time i sketched while listening to hardcore at a club... and that was NUTS. There is this one book that I recently got.... the title is... GONZO ART. I havent really read it yet... I got it yesterday... but its the best art I have seen in a while... really raw... and in your face.... anyone else hear of this guy. OH AND MC ESCHER... crazy stuff
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Dael
from the low end (Australia) on 2002-08-27 05:55 [#00366812]
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I'd have to say that Dali, H.R Giger and James Gleeson would have to be the biggest influences for me whilst studying fine arts, As for music I think that anything that effects your mood and gets into your head will effect what comes out on the canvas/paper, to see what I've done follow this link http://www.comcen.com.au/~tinkler/index2.html I'd much appreciate some feedback :)
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Dael
from the low end (Australia) on 2002-08-27 05:57 [#00366818]
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oh yeah, and click on the orange arrow next to the Fine Arts Diploma text :)
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Mickey Mouse
from The Moon on 2002-08-27 05:59 [#00366823]
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I really like your photos on your site.... good job! RESPECT YO
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DeLtoiD
from Ontario on 2002-08-27 06:07 [#00366852]
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DaLi, escher...
maybe some Dada stuf, but not much really....
haha my friend created a mini-dada surrealist society @ my school.
he has some pretty cool ideas... and some , well... very opinionated points as well
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od_step_cloak
from Pleth (Australia) on 2002-08-27 06:12 [#00366863]
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art? i do drawing!
check!
http://orangedust.hackmode.org/Images/Tefo01_sml.jpg
PS dont bag dali he's the beez kneez
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Asche XL
on 2002-08-27 06:18 [#00366875]
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Aphex Twin inspired me, duh.
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Dael
from the low end (Australia) on 2002-08-27 06:29 [#00366903]
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nice one od_step_cloak! to me it looks graff influenced, have you heard of daim? check it out, he's got some awesome stuff on his site
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od_step_cloak
from Pleth (Australia) on 2002-08-27 06:35 [#00366918]
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wicked thanks!
um my stuff is just really scratchy most of the time. scratchy and katsuhiro otomo (akira artwork) influenced (theres loads of other shit there too)
Daim - this blokes stuff is really wicked thanks for the link!
Wow some of the pieces n tags n that are awesoem! wicked, haha!
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-08-27 06:37 [#00366920]
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tits: were do i go from the main page to see the art? i just see alot of text...
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-08-27 06:44 [#00366931]
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Zeus: most of the art's offline at the moment, i'm working on a new design. download the .ZIP file linked at the top to check out art from the last collection (2000 and a little early 2001). feel free to contribute, same with all of you.... please?
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-08-27 06:46 [#00366938]
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:)
i do photo shop art. postmodern-ish. I use all photos, like of me, or a tree, or friends, any photo, and i morph it into something surreal and abstract
here
i made the logo art there. It was a picture of me smiling at the camera before...
thats basically a tast of what my other stuff is like. but more colors in the otherones...
ill send you some when i get back on my other comp in a week
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princo
from Shitty City (Geelong) (Australia) on 2002-08-27 06:50 [#00366942]
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I did some art last year ... influenced by Aphex Twin and Squarepusher....
Theres a nice big Squarepusher piece on my wall!! :)
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-08-27 06:57 [#00366955]
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coolness all contributors welcome diverse styles encouraged
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princo
from Shitty City (Geelong) (Australia) on 2002-08-27 06:59 [#00366958]
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***waiting for brother to return home, with digital camera
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neetta
from Finland on 2002-08-27 14:27 [#00367473]
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that's a nice drawing :)
i really can't draw that well. pens just don't sit in my hand that well.
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AE_King
from Australia on 2002-08-27 14:46 [#00367495]
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I'm a pretty good at drawing, like to draw cartoony things...go to www.phend.com to see a pic I did some 2 or so years ago :P don't have anything more recent sorry!
My favourite artist is one of (the most?) celebrated artist in Japan, Yoshitaka Amano, his art is very romantic and is just very magical, brilliant stuff. Yoji Shinkawa is also an excellent artist...
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Netlon Sentinel
from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2002-08-27 14:52 [#00367499]
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i submitted some of my pretentious stuff to aphextwin.nu. some of it actually made it through! take a look
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