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I've tried. I've listened to it all. Still, though, all I hear is a bunch o' fukking noise. Well, yeah, the drum-rhythm may be advanced, and so on, but still, I don't find the album, hm, satisfying? Listenable? There are small glitches of music underneath the drumming, but it doesn't make any melodies. Rather a mood. I listen to music that gives your head a frikkin' spin (Venetian, Aphex, Square ...) but this album, I don't know. What's so special 'bout it? Do I have to listen to it more? What? What? Tell me!! |
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well, at least I can hear melodies... ?! i love the album. |
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Ok, tracks like Vi Scose Poise and Cfern have melodies, but how about Sim Gishel? There's this weird sound "morphing", but I can't say I hear a melody. |
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All I get is confusion when I listen to this album... sorry. :( |
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First Autechre album I ever heard... scared me away. But I gave it a chance, and now it might be my favorite electronic album ever... other than Drukqs. It's so fucked up... but the sounds are so amazing, and there's some vague melodies in there that demand your total attention to pick up... Give it time... it's a cliche, but it's true! Takes time to digest all the stuff that's happening. |
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okay... |
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i fuckin hate the album. And trust me; i've tried and tried and tried. |
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Well, there seem to be very opposite opinons 'bout this album. |
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Yeah, you either love it or you hate it. I've tried to do the same for Gantz Graf... I didn't like it at first, but though that I would eventually, if I gave it time... but Gantz Graf isn't as good, and I gave it more than enough time... oh well. |
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I get the feeling if I buy this album I'll either attain enlightenment or kill my neighbours whilst listening to it . Or even more strangely, perhaps even both simultaneously ... |
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Our ears all have their own preferences.....(!). |
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LISTEN TO IT AGAIN!!!!!!!....THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I THOUGHT AFTER I'D LISTENED TO IT A TON...AND I LOVE IT NOW!!!...I'M LISTENING TO IT RIGHT NOW!!!!!!! PARHELIC TRIANGLE IS AWESOME!!! |
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Mwahaha - who cares 'bout the neigbours? I felt like playing some Aphex-tracks VERY loud in the middle of the night. ^_^ |
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The PARHELIC TRIANGLE-beat is scary. |
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I really like it. I think that's because it's like nothing else I've ever heard. |
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Well, yeah, I use to like alot of new and creative stuff, but ... um, yeah, guess I'll have to give it some time to grow... |
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the thing with Confield is that you have to change the way you think about musicrules to appreciate it. Forget the rules and try to think of a new abstract musicworld where everything is warping, bouncing, rotating and changing colour. It's great album if you can get past some of the things you're used to(it took a while for me too). |
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It's good, but very hard to swallow for a lot of people. It's taken me a while to get into it, mostly because I didn't really want to force it by listening to it a ton. Doing that would only burn it into the ground and then I would've just hated it. I took it in small doses and now I think it's a groundbreaking album. VI Scose Poise is one of my favorite Ae tracks. |
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But there's not much of melodies in the album, am I right? It's more like a mood, a state, y'know what I mean? Or am I full o' bullshit? :) |
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Well it's not really conventional music. Obviously they take a different approach to what they do, so what they consider 'melody' maybe something totally different to you. |
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Well, yes, there are no rules that say what melody is or is not, but I'd say it's less melody in this album than ... ah, forget it. I don't know what I'm talking about. I'm hungry. I need a sandwich. |
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why are you sorry that you get confused with this album? |
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At first I thought it was boring (i like drill) but still thought it was a great ablumn. Everything just fit perfectly. I liked Parhelic Triangle like you did, it seemed so weird. Then after listening to it a couple times I got into the entire albumn. |
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Well, uh, I don't know ... |
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ah i love confield! |
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I tryed listening to it 2398382938208 times. It sucks, there's nothing there, it sounds like a 2 yr old is slamming the keyboard with its head. Just random noises...I cant get into it. dont get me wrong, I AM an AE fan, just confield gets a 0 in my books |
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Nooooooo!!! Not true. Don't listen to Asche. 2398382938208 times, eh? Keep at it. Listen to it for the 2398382938209th time. And a 2398382938210th time. And if you still hate it, well... WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU?!?!??!?! :-p |
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I loved Confield the moment I sat down and listened to it the first time, After reading all the shit said about Gantz Graf I thought it would be crap but it turned out to be my favourite track this year. I don't beleive in this listen until you like it philosophy, you end up liking it because you are familiar with it. What has happened with me in the past is, I have bought CD's not liked them and put them to one side, pick them up after 6 months and fall in love with them. |
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forget musik rules? ETF?! there are no rules to musik other than that of the fourth dimensionadn that for a human ear to pick it up the frequency range! give me a break. there are a whole wad of different types of musicians in the world. no matter what category any musician fits into, they are always going to produce something that says to the majority of the public, 'we are the shitiest most talentless head up our own arse wanna be artist musicians on the planet adn people listen to us cuz we are so different and that makes us kewl even though we suck ass bg time like no one we have ever heard in our life and that is our goal and we are good at achieving our goals!' ae just happen to only produce musik in this category!!!!! HA H AHAHAHADHASJALKNCJNAHUEb,../........ confield is one of the lamest albums as far as musik goes that i have ever had the disprivelege of wasting $25 on. chiastic side is tolerable by times though, so the group of hussies have a little bit of talent. perhaps as much as RDJs baby toe nail clipping. but even that is giving them too much credit! HAR! |
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Yes you make a good argument for a retard. |
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thanks friedn who spells their name sdrawkcab! i'm sorry you have no taste in musik. i truly am, it must ruin a lot of things for you. or maybe you truly have a case of dislexia that has affected your auditory perception as well. thus the inconceivable manor in which you took instantly to that flacid piece of pressed plastic with art that wsa ripped off from amon tobin. there must be help for you somewhere dear child! how could the gods be so cruel!!!??? DAMN YOU EVIL GODS FOR CURSING THIS BOY WHO ONCE HAD SO MUCH POTENTIAL AND IS NOW FORCED TO LISTEN TO SUCH TORMENT!!!!!!! DAMN YOU ALL TO HELL!!!! |
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you have a nice hair-cut! 00000 as for Confield... I like it as much as I do listening to Miles Davis - Bitches Brew (complete sessions)... i can sit down and listen to it... but really NEVER understand or pick up what the fuck i am listening to... i am going to listen to it.... in 10 minutes! |
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mind you... i would have put you on that compilation if you would have not had that ugly distortion on all the bass-drum tracks... could i perhaps get a different final version? sometime? |
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Yes, erm good one...did you use those long words to attempt to disprove my opinion you are a retard? If that was the case you failed. Just because you don't like something doesn't make it shit. I'm not gonna say that you should open your mind to it because if you don't like it, you don't like it, simple as that. But to criticise them is a bit out of order, no-one forced you to buy the album... |
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sure, i am working on it as we speak. just taking a bit of a break. I had written this track that was heaven sent if you know what i mean>then i ran out of wind for the sails and it stoped itself midthrust. i sent it to my friend in barbados, and he says it is his favourite track ever. i hated it. i said to him WTF!?! and i sent him the vversion you have and he asked me why i destroyed the best song ever! i said WTF?!?! he couldn't understand the distortion. i quite like it. so i'm doing three versions. finishing the original. 187>which you have. the hybrid>working on now. i'll let you know m8! but i told you how long it takes me to do tracks! so no breath holding, cuz i wouldn't want to be responsible for deaths! wait..... what thread am i in? wierd! how did this topic get here?...... |
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curiousity killed the cat maybe? |
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Confield is a GREAT. It is truly original, and it's not just all random noise. Some of it is, Autechre have said themselves [although it was randomised by computer programs they wrote themselves]. But there IS melody. I think the melody in Lentic Catachresis is beautiful [I'm talking about the bassline]. VI Scose Poise is brilliant. If anybody says VI Scose Poise has no melody, they haven't been listening hard enough. I can fully understand why so many people dislike it though. It's an extremely difficult album, at first I thought I'd never like it, but a few walks around town with it on my headphones did the trick, and I was hooked forever! |
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thank you! i love the track! but i dislike the distortion... me is sorry! |
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and damn did that cat get destroyed!!!!!!! HAR HAR HAR!!!! i blatantly admit that i am a retard an the words i use are my own friend! [see below] all words © skodt 2002 thanks you spam monkey goat toot! |
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not you quoth! but thank you to you too! |
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oh and don't be sorry m8! i'm happy you even took the time to listen to it!!!! ta da!!!! nite nite! me sleep now! |
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i want the other version s'il vous plait! |
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yes, confield does have melodies. track 2 has one of the best, catchiest, darkest melodies autechres ever done. for me at least. however there are tracks that don't really have melodies. There's twisting, tearing, echoing sounds in place on some tracks. Why is this worse than melody? question what makes music good. Melody is just one element that can be used to make a song engaging. just one. It's an element that I think is given far too much attention over other elements that can be used to equal effect. pure noise, interesting noise, can be just as interesting to me as a good melody. the possibilities for creating noise with electronic music is limitless and exciting. I don't think autechre or anyone should be limiting themselves to melodies especially when their noise scapes are so fascinating. I actually think confield has the most successfull merging of beats and background music of any of their albums. There's moments on past albums where the beats and music sound to juxtaposed on each other because of the melodies, but the noise scapes on confield mix seamlessly with the beats. it's like the abstraction is complete. I'm very happy with these songs. To me, they had to get rid of melody to advance in their music. I also hope to see them try some 'beat-less' noise scapes in the future. I know confield is a very dense album and can be hard to get into. I liked it right away but it's not like I went straight from Pavement to that. My taste has evolved, and pretty slowly. so what I'd suggest is to not worry about the melodies, see if you can see the value in noise. I'm not saying you will like it, it'd be absurd to think that everyone would, but maybe with a more open minded listen you can understand more and appreciate what's being done. |
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If you have to listen REALLY HARD to find the slightest bit of "melody" what's the fun in that? Oooooo this album is really good if u put ur ear right in ur stereo and if u ,turn ur treble down and ur bass up you can hear some melody behind all that static....too much effort to listen to music.... |
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^^^^ If that last post didn't make any sense it's because It's 2:32 am and Im exhausted. nitey nite. |
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If you don't like it then don't listen to it man.. I hate forcing myself to listen to shit that I don't like when I could be listening to AFX or Elvis Costello instead! |
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I don't think you have to force yourself to listen to it...just that on the first few times thru you may find it hard to find something to hang onto but it'll slowly come into focus... It's the same with any kind of art that attempt to step outside of normal conventions or boundaries; it's kinda like culture-shock...you have to give yourself time to understand it.... |
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alot of times, in order to really appreciate something, you have to be distracted while listening to it. thats how i got into incunabula, and how my friend got into roygbiv. and i too am not a big fan of confield. i have really only given it a few listens, but i don't want to listen to the album untill i get all of the last track... i'm missing some of it and i didn't realize it untill after i burned it :/ |
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much has been said about confield. some of my personale faves are on there (lentic catachresis, pen expers, eidetic casein). it's their least melodic work though. then again it's not nearly as emotionless as tri repetae. i only listen to it every once in a while. it's just too overwhelming an album. i can't stand sim gishel, though. i liked that track only once. ppl often hate things they don't understand |
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you just got to progress up to confield. try ep7 or lp5, and then try listening to confield. |
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