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All of us, in our every day lives, take lumps, suffer injustices, lose loved ones. We mourn for a reasonable amount of time, and then try to avoid the same problems in the future. We flee from our enemies and have nothing more to do with them, avoid climbing distressed ladders, stay within the speed zone, go to the doctor at the first sign of symptoms instead of waiting until it's too late. We find legitimate means to correct mistakes and avoid future tragedy. We don't just sit around constantly wailing, and building more and more wailing walls, continuously whipping up emotions and hate, calling out forever for retribution or restitution. Consider this in contrast to the 9/11 memorial events planned in New York. Are we going to be led down the same path as the Jewish leaders of Israel are leading us and its people? ..... whipped into emotional cries for "revenge.....revenge" for 9/11? I have a different attitude about 9/11, and that is this. We should be resolving the Middle East conflict PRONTO, before more of us suffer the same fate as those of 9/11. If we are going to get along with others, the Islamic world, we MUST be willing to make compromises. Why can't we do that, hmmmm? And if we can't compromise with our enemies, why can't we just walk away and leave them alone, hmmm? "How many times must the cannon balls fly, until they are forever banned? "How many deaths will it takes till he [George Bush] knows that too many people have died? "How many years must a people exist before they are allowed to be free? "How many ears must one man [George Bush] have before he can hear people cry? "The answer my friend is blowing in the wind." I personally do not believe that there is a popular American consensus to aid Israel in its Zionist objectives or to interfere in Islamic affairs, or go to war in Iraq. I truly do not believe it! Joyce Owens |
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fuck this. did you register with this board just to get this point across? Fuck the middle east, we talk about MUSIC here. |
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Then you talk about music instead of using 4 letter words old filthy mouth! |
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Although 9/11 was tragic and I feel for those who lost loved ones and in no way condone terrorism in any way. I think America had it coming, I was not surprised at all. I don't know how somthing like this hasn't happened before now when America has pissed off the rest of the world with their "Corperate Invasion". |
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take it easy. |
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I agree to some of what you said but I take exception the bit about the US resolving the Middle east situation PRONTO.. the only way the US can do it is by taking it's ugly oars out of the region.. stop meddling..stop playing god and the god police..and that includes..cutting Israel loose and letting it stand on it's own two feet..I think the Zionist's have suckled on the greenback teat long enough... but that is just wishful thinking I think..as long as there's fleets big old ugly US cars rolling off the assembly lines..guzzling dirt cheap blood mingled Arab gasoline...the wars would go on..more villians would be manufactured and more oil rich territories will be taken over.. |
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btw..I am wholly repulsed by your anti-semitism you are spouting on the Starbucks thread... |
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Okay flea, I did suggest we get out of the way in the Middle East; and that might be best solution if we cannot truly help. Moreover, I am not naturally anti-Semitic. For all my life until this most recent activity in the Middle East, I have loved my jewish friends. But honestly I am now beginning to hate them. It is true. I am beginning to hate them! And I am seeing them differently from the way I used to see them. Sorry. |
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...so you're saying we should all just put down our guns and love each other? ....just get along? gee, nobody's thought of THAT before.. wow, what a concept why dont you fly over to israel, find some suicide bombers, and start telling that to them, im sure they'd love to listen how exactly do u expect to compromise w/ bin laden, or w/ islamic fundamentalists who keep blowing themselves up on buses? its not like they have some rational, reasonable demand or objective you can say "sure, my fellow human being" too believe me, if it COULD work, i'd love it but just plain old hippy-style lovin cant work unless EVERYONE does it, and everyone certainly will NOT. there are always some crazy violent people, who are almost neccessarily irrational, and therefore cant be reasoned or compromised w/ either your really naive, thats all |
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Pretty Simple! We just stop wanting the Middle East Oil at a cheap price, stop funding arms, and leave people to their own devices! |
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I love music. |
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isnt that a stupid thing to say you need to look at them with out the middle east infront of your eyes people can argue about many things and still be friends the russians were the enemy of the USA at one point and now they are ..um some what friendly..not exactly ....but things are a bit better than before the world changes every day and your enemy today may beocme your friend in the future |
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Put on your headphones and listen to music! That's about all we can do, right? |
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all we can hope to do is stop attitudes like yours that start wars and conflicts of this type in the first place |
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I am 63 years old and only started hating jews in the past few years. I try to just keep listening to my music which I have been downloading; but then someone comes across the internet crying..... what can I do? I have to post the cry for help, somewhere, everywhere - and it does interfere with my music downloads. |
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"... I am not naturally anti-Semitic. For all my life until this most recent activity in the Middle East, I have loved my jewish friends. But honestly I am now beginning to hate them. It is true. I am beginning to hate them!" .....uh..... that sounds pretty anti-semitic to me..... as for how "natural" it is.... well, what the hell is that supposed to mean? its racist, its that simple ...oh, but you seem really concerned about your music downloads please leave this board |
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I am anti-semitic; don't deny it. Is this a free speech board or not. And I didn't become anti-semitic because the Zionist movement was peaceful! I became antiSemitic when I saw how cruel the Zionist movement has been to the Palestinians! |
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RU on a wind up,or what? No one here gives a shit about this 'Jew vs Muslim' thing.}:< |
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RobeE - Does no one care about the Palestinian plight? If not, that is anti-human! |
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well on this board we dont like fucked up anti sematic people here we all get along fine so take your hatred somewhere else and leave this board in peace |
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Anyone who wants to ignore me can do so. No one is forcing you to read my thread. |
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Yeah, music is pretty neat. |
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any one looking for the new gus gus cd? |
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Taking sides isn't worth the effort. Religion=War(Well it seems to,anyway).}:< |
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Vinyl or cd? };> |
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trying to fight "positive discrimination" with discrimination is a mistake IMO |
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RobE -That's half the problem - religion 50%, greed 50%. Enlightened people should try to stop it. |
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i will get gus gus on cd they are comming to my town next month and i am going to see them anybody seen them play live before? |
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why r u awknowleging [spelling?] only the posts you want to? ...oh right, its cus theres no way you can defend your position or your racist opinion, nevermind |
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Laserbreak - I don't discriminate! If the Palestinians or other people were doing the same cruelty to Jews, I would side with the Jews. |
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I don't really hate Jews. I hate what they are doing. Anyone with any sense should be able to see that. Jews are people. As a group these people are inflicting cruelty and grabbing land. I hate what that group is doing. I find them very GREEDY and CRUEL! |
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hi kara! |
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You can side with D's nuts... |
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quoth...did you finish your compilation? |
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There is NO EVIL in being anti-Semitic if their movement is wrong! The evil is being anti-human! I am not anti-human. Many Jews agree with me too! |
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I reckon there is no answer because those people would rather have an enemy and a cause than to step down and enjoy peace with concessions. This might sound controversial but the people of Northern Ireland are prone to rabid sectarian hatred and appartheid ; and maybe we would all be if born into the right (or perhaps wrong) social environment I have so much respect for the Palestinian & Israeli peace campaigners. It must be hard to find your voice and stand out from the baying mob over there... |
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no, b/c i haven't received enuff songs... i want 20... but only 10 songs will make it on :) do you have any songs? |
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let me check your lod thread and see what you got there |
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smokehammer, it is difficult and sometimes confusing. People confuse me into saying I am anti-jewish when what I really mean is that I am anti-Zionist, which should mean I am against s certain religious group exercising cruelty upon a helpless people. I have many jewish friends, so I can't be anti-jewish, but it is true I see religions of all kinds causing wars and cruelty even in this day and age, so perhaps anti-jewish is not altogether wrong. Perhaps its the relgious part that justifies anything that seems a defense to a religious idea. |
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doesnt say much having trouble at the moment |
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Seems like we get into semantics and avoid discussing the ISSUES. Right away people who want to avoid discussing the occupation and the Palestinian right to a state - well they prefer to talk about anti-Semitism! |
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but u just said that now u hate your jewish friends... |
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YOU are the one who has not discussed ANY issues so far! all youve done is say how much you hate jews, because of what a FEW, extremist zionists have done! |
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Yeah, do you even know who Aphex Twin is? |
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Aminal - a minimum amount of your trying to say what I said would help us all avoid confusion. I really don't want you on my thread. |
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I suppose intelligent conversation is impossible on this thread - look at the participants I have drawn. Good bye |
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"I am 63 years old and only started hating jews in the past few years." "For all my life until this most recent activity in the Middle East, I have loved my jewish friends. But honestly I am now beginning to hate them. It is true. I am beginning to hate them! And I am seeing them differently from the way I used to see them." ........YEAH. |
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Many Jewish people do tend to have a persecution complex which leads them to an over-zealous attitude & approach to life. Now the Palestinians are employing the same approach , which creates a tinder box situation. I don't see much hope. |
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I Am Anti-Zion, personally |
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"... I am not naturally anti-Semitic. For all my life until this most recent activity in the Middle East, I have loved my jewish friends. But honestly I am now beginning to hate them. It is true. I am beginning to hate them!" are you fucking serious? the IRA has planted many many bombs in London over the past few years, but do you hate your "Irish friends?" I'm not saying your anti-semetic white trash, but try think about the generalizations... |
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