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offline elusive from detroit (United States) on 2002-08-06 02:00 [#00338195]
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My opinion only, but how many people agree with me?

I listen to Drukqs basically everyday.
At first I didn't really listen to the piano tracks, just
the main hardcore ones.

Those grew on me, then slowly I started listening to the
piano tracks.

Now I like basiacally every fucking song on those 2 cds.

Normally, no matter how much I like a song, I will get tired
of it eventually. Even some astrobotnia (beleive it or not)
but drukqs, never.

Never have I turned myself down to any track on the cds, and
now I am quite taken to all of the piano tracks.

Especially Plentyharmonium, and the slow tracks on the 2nd
cd.

Anyone else agree with me here?


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-08-06 02:07 [#00338196]
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lots of us like drukqs best, but it's important to put that
up front like you did cos it gets so much criticism.


 

offline elusive from detroit (United States) on 2002-08-06 02:32 [#00338207]
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Exactely,

you can _truely_ say you think the cd is important and very
good once you've had it for so long, listen to it so much,
and still hang on every note.

insane...


 

offline SwitchFrontside on 2002-08-06 02:46 [#00338214]
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same here i used to skip 40% of the tracks.... now i love
all of them... i just skipp the happy birthday one :)


 

offline corn_mouth from santiago (Chile) on 2002-08-06 03:01 [#00338228]
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it prolly depends on when you got drukqs, i went through a
phase of intense drukqs_listening, everyday, loved every
track....haven´t heard it for 3 weeks now, prolly next week
i´ll be all over it again........it goes around


 

offline elusive from detroit (United States) on 2002-08-06 03:08 [#00338235]
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i've had it since b4 it came out...


 

offline weatheredstoner from same shit babes. (United States) on 2002-08-06 03:28 [#00338259]
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I also skip the "Lornaderek (happy b-day)" track. But other
than that I love all the tracks. Drukqs is my favorite album
of all time.


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-06 03:33 [#00338266]
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I like rdj album/com2dady/windowlkr a lot more. Drukqs is
about ICBYD level in my taste.


 

offline Zephyr Twin from ΔΔΔ on 2002-08-06 03:37 [#00338275]
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I really really love Drukqs... but im undecided if it's my
fav album of all time...


 

offline The_Funkmaster from St. John's (Canada) on 2002-08-06 03:40 [#00338284]
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Drukqs is amazing...


 

offline elusive from detroit (United States) on 2002-08-06 03:49 [#00338300]
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it doesn't have to be your fav album of all time, each album
does something special for me,,,,it is impossible to have a
favorite.


 

offline digital messiah on 2002-08-06 04:37 [#00338353]
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the biggest crap of all time,thats a sure bet


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-08-06 04:39 [#00338356]
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wahey!


 

offline weatheredstoner from same shit babes. (United States) on 2002-08-06 04:42 [#00338362]
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"the biggest crap of all time"

Damn dude, I'd hate to see your music collection. What you
got in there? Backstreet Boys and Ja Rule ?


 

offline damion from Auckland (New Zealand) on 2002-08-06 05:20 [#00338418]
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drukqs was always near the bottem of the list on my
favourite aphex twins albulms
but i listened to the whole 2 cds last night on headphones
and its my favourite albulm by aphex now
then richard d james albulm


 

offline Phatbert 000 from Augsburg (Germany) on 2002-08-06 11:17 [#00338795]
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I've had drukqs recorded on tape in my car for almost a year
now and I've been listening to it ever since. I'm NEVER
gonna grow tired of it. At first I was always listening to
Avril 14th and Kesson Daslef, then Vordhosbn and Cock Ver10,
then Mount St. Michael and Ziggomatic, then Meltphace and
Taking Control, then I really got into the other piano
tracks like Father, Nanou2 and now I really can't skip a
track when I listen to it.

My absolute favourites though, after listening to drukqs at
least 100 times are:
Meltphace 6
Avril 14th
Taking Control
Vordhosbn
Bbydhyonchord
54 Cymru Beats


 

offline Chri5py from my Solarbear (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-06 11:33 [#00338815]
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Thing is people don't want to admit it's a great album. I
still skip throught the stupid tracks like Father. He's just
taking the pis with that one. I heard that track 15 years
ago when I played on my Grans Upright.

Fucking great album though.


 

offline Meho Krljic from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-08-06 11:39 [#00338825]
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Chockfull of filler, tho...


 

offline aron from saskatoon (Canada) on 2002-08-06 11:48 [#00338830]
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yeah, it's got some fucking wicked tracks on it, but i still
skip through 70%of it.
not my fave aphex release, definetly.


 

offline Archrival on 2002-08-06 12:03 [#00338839]
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Drukqs is so bizarre....I listen to it everyday but I cant
get tired of it :)

No album comes near the "airplay" that Drukqs gets in my
stereo.

Elusive: I AGREE!!


 

offline raimons from Stockholm (Sweden) on 2002-08-06 12:09 [#00338846]
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i havenot been listening to it ina long time now so...ill
think i have to put it on...yeahhh!!!!!!!!!!


 

offline chapman from United Kingdom on 2002-08-06 13:05 [#00338932]
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It is amazing, but not his best work.


 

offline Archrival on 2002-08-06 13:11 [#00338938]
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I like this site!! :)

theres a lot of Drukqs haters at watmm.com

kinda make me pissed off :(

Yeah Drukqs is probably my favourite album
of all time.



 

offline zaphod from the metaverse on 2002-08-06 13:51 [#00338964]
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Drukqs is a good album, but its still a mixed bag of the
awesome and the mediocre.
There are reasons for its being though:
bbdhonchord, 54 Cymru Beats, Petiatil Cx Htdui and Mt. St
Nichel are some of my favorite AFX songs.


 

offline surrounded from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2002-08-06 13:56 [#00338968]
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father is probably my favourite of the piano-tracks!
Definitly the darkest one... i agree it sounds kinda "off",
like you're listening to someone who can't play piano,
playing the piano at first. But it really grew on me.

It's very eerie i think... i always feel like something
terrible is about to happen.

And i've also never skipped lornaderek... how could that
track not make you smile? :-p It makes george smile for
sure. I especially like how they burst out into laughter
after they've finished singing.

It's damn short anyway... it hardly seems worthwhile
skipping it... in the time it takes to pick up the remote
and push the 'next' button it's already over.

Now Gwarek2 is a different story... i hate that one. I wish
he hadn't included it (on an otherwise perfect (imo) album).
I still haven't started skipping it, but i'm starting to
seriously doubt if it'll grow on me.

I still think it's his best album so far though!


 

offline nekta from shezlick (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-06 14:02 [#00338972]
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drukqs is my fave aphex album i think, just the variety of
it and the quality of songs is always high.
yeah archrival it annoys me that they don't even say, well
yeah its ok but not my fave, they just shout CRAP SHIT
BOLLOCKS! IM NOT LISTENING LA LA LA
but anyway, i have RDJ, ICBYD and drukqs on vinyl so i can
listen to them all, ahhhh bliss is truly mine.....


 

offline progeriak from belgium boarder (France) on 2002-08-06 14:13 [#00338985]
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I like drukqs but is not coherent enough.
Is it a step to contemporary music or a step to Old
acid-breakbeat.

For me Come to Daddy EP is so much interesting. I like Aphex
when its experimental



 

offline progeriak from belgium boarder (France) on 2002-08-06 14:15 [#00338987]
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old beatbox sound of drukqs and C64 tune effect on it are
quite surprising..


 

offline Chri5py from my Solarbear (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-06 14:23 [#00339000]
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And an extreamly frightening avatar Prog....


 

offline elusive from detroit (United States) on 2002-08-06 18:39 [#00339416]
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ok, gwarek2 is one of my favs, simply because of the eerie
silence and darkness in it. The bass dips into the 20Hz
ranges constantly (...like the whole damn cd =] =] =] )

I don't understand how some people just hate that song. I
continue to listen to it because it is so dark, just like
father.

To me father is like, well, those sounds are emotions
towards his father. Pretty fucked up sounds at that!

All the piano tracks have grown on me, especially nannou2.
It is SO SLOW, and SO SIMPLE, but I hang on every fucking
note. I play the song in my head when i'm listening to it,
and the notes have such a large space in between each other
that I always have it kick in in my head before it actually
does in the song.

I think it's a great opening to the cd (cd1/1) and a great
closing with nannou2.

Simply put, WOW.

I've never had a cd grow on me so much. I don't understand
how some ppl call the piano tracks "filler," when there is a
lot of genius in those tracks, no matter how simple they
sound.

And #7 cd1, that song is a great "head-bobbin" song to
cruise down the road to.


 

offline Jarworski from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-06 18:44 [#00339430]
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I prefer it to everything else he's done by miles. I
especially like listening to 'Prep Gwarlek 38' then 'Taking
Control' straight afterwards...

"decent bits"...

*goes mental*


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-08-06 18:45 [#00339435]
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gwarek2 can be a REALLY fun listen if you're in the mood.
the sounds are "trippy" with great headphones and yea the
bass reaches those nice low levels.


 

offline hannibal from United Kingdom on 2002-08-06 18:51 [#00339450]
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it's not a bad album. like someone said, i probably like the
same fraction of it as i do with I Care Because You Do.

contrary to what nekta said, i don't think there's much
variety at all. there's either piano/traditional pieces,
acid or drum'n'bass madness.

but it's all quality.

i particularly like

54 cymru beats
cock/ver10
afx237 v7
meltphace 6
and taking control.


 

offline REFLEX from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2002-08-06 20:52 [#00339577]
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I never listen to Drukqs. I just think its subpar~!


 

offline Darth manchu from Cambridge (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-06 21:00 [#00339584]
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I sort of reviewed it somewhere, just to get it in words.

I'm treading a very thin line here. I have two options, I
can listen to it a few times and call it the best electronic
album of 2001 a few days after it has been released.
However, I could listen to it for 5 months straight, study
every nuance and break down each track and get inside and
see whats there.

I have picked the latter option. 5 months down the line,
aphex twin's work hasn't lost anything. In fact, Drukqs gets
better the more attention you pay. A few listens may leave
anyone who doubts aphex's ability with thier pessimisms
proven. However, drukqs is a fine wine. It takes time and
understanding for it to realise it's flavour. Drukqs is far
from a pick up and play CD; its the anti-pop. It requires
time and understanding to like the tracks, rather than
sticking it in and loving it for 4 listens, and then growing
tired.

Drukqs is like Aphex's career. There are many styles, the
old acid (Taking control), mental drill n bass (cock/ver
10), the gentle piano tracks (kesson daslef) and the concept
tracks (gwarek 2). Due to this, its hard to listen to in one
go. I would recommend putting each style onto its own
minidisc. The album oftenfeels like it was just put together
in a rush. Its almost like he just randomly threw a few
tracks from his vast stack of unreleased music (trust me,
thats a lot of tracks), which gives it a disjointed feel.

The tracks themselves are completely different. The piano
tracks are as basic as the moving, taking influence from
contempery composer, Erik Satie. Kesson Daslef is a great
example of this, its almost pure emotion, which, at first,
seems out of place with the towering monoloths of Mt. Saint
Michel+St Michaels mount, but after a while, they both seem
to feed off each other. Mental bit followed by calm bit does
work sometimes. But then again, it still can feel
disjointed. The drill and bass tracks take an almost direct
influence from squarepusher, but then have thier own sort of
melodic background. The tr


 

offline Darth manchu from Cambridge (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-06 21:01 [#00339586]
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The tracks almost seem to have the drum making the main
melody, and background synths acting as a stable repeating
part. The concept tracks, namely Gwarek 2 and Gwely mermans
at first seem like pure filler. Once again, after time, the
beauty and depth of these songs comes out. Gwarek 2 being
one of the best tracks on the album. It probably isn't music
in the sense, but whatever it is, its amazing. The sounds
come from nowhere, leap around your head and leave like
nothing happened. Its scary, but the best representation of
whats going on in his twisted mind.

The main issue with drukqs is that, unlike previous aphex
releases, drukqs doesn't break any boundaries. The drill n
bass tracks aren't much different to those off RDJ album and
the piano tracks aren't really new. However, this still
sounds lightyears ahead of its competitors. If you've
brought drukqs, or had it copied off a mate (ahem) and hate
it, go back and listen to it. Go on, I dare you.
9/10



 

offline Darth manchu from Cambridge (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-06 21:02 [#00339588]
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had to get that out of my system there. Hey, i gave it a go.


 

offline flea from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-08-06 21:05 [#00339589]
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yep I agree..it progressively grew on me..to the point that
I probably play it the most of all RDJ
currently..Windowlicker doesnt really count..it doesnt quite
require the commitment of an album


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2002-08-06 21:08 [#00339591]
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i prefer his earlier music
not that i have anything against drukqs tho


 

offline Darth manchu from Cambridge (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-06 21:12 [#00339596]
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I find the earlier stuff a little hit and miss. Some stuff
is great (analog bubblebath, on the romance trip, track 11
off AB3, ventolin etc) while it can be truely shite. Which
is a shame.


 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2002-08-06 21:14 [#00339598]
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It's his best album, I love it love it love it love it. I
can't say enough about it.

A couple of crap tracks that I never listen to, but I love
the majority of it, and I keep coming back to it all the
time.


 

offline Inverted Whale from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2002-08-06 21:16 [#00339600]
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I still listen to

cock-ver10
mt saint michel mix+st michaels mount
54 cymru beats
meltphace 6
taking control
ziggomatic v17

The piano tracks don't do anything for me. That's probably
because over the last 2 years I've been listening to more
and more classical music.

If I'm going to listen to piano, I much prefer Mozart,
Beethoven, Rachmaninoff, Chopin, Liszt ... there's just so
much other good piano music.

The worst problem of the album is the sequencing, thank
goodness for cd burners.


 

offline elusive from detroit (United States) on 2002-08-07 02:45 [#00339937]
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thank you Darth for agreeing with me that Gwarek2 is fucking
incredlible.

You just have to listen closely :)


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-08-07 03:02 [#00339944]
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"it doesnt quite require the commitment of an album"

yes, one finds that, doesn't one?


 

offline Phatbert 000 from Augsburg (Germany) on 2002-08-07 10:12 [#00340279]
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I'm still anticipating the "more complex" piano tunes that
Rich said he'd release (in the groove.de interview).

Any new RDJ material would be great but I'm especially
interested to hear just HOW complex these pieces are.


 

offline raimons from Stockholm (Sweden) on 2002-08-07 10:19 [#00340284]
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I love those piano pieces.
I listened to the hole Drukqs last night and i must say its
a great album. It has some bad songs, but the most great
albums has one or two bad songs anyway.


 

offline ppaauull from Metropolis (Germany) on 2002-08-07 10:23 [#00340286]
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i thing druqks may have put richard into retirement. he will
not make anymore cds EVER!!!. druqks is a recap on all his
work, the very top of the mountain, in other words the end
of the road.


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-07 18:06 [#00340677]
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I wonder if a mad guy like richard is secretly one of the
schematic crew now. Maybe he's dino felipe or something.
Schematic is where all the seriously insane people go.


 

offline earthleakage from tell the world you're winning on 2002-08-07 18:43 [#00340693]
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time to give meltphace 6 another mention
this song is truly magical

[interesting point ppaauull]



 

offline zaphod from the metaverse on 2002-08-07 19:13 [#00340715]
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piatil cx htdui. thats a great little number.
and let me plug bbdhonchord one more time too.


 


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