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zaphod
from the metaverse on 2002-08-05 16:29 [#00337488]
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Which of these has had more influence on electronic music and music in general over the past decade.
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smokehammer
from Saigon (Vietnam) on 2002-08-05 16:33 [#00337491]
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AFX
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eXXailon
from purgatory on 2002-08-05 16:33 [#00337492]
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this question has been asked many times....
my answer: AFX
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zaphod
from the metaverse on 2002-08-05 16:35 [#00337495]
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Why AFX?
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plugexpert
from Nijmegen (Netherlands, The) on 2002-08-05 16:38 [#00337501]
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AFX
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2002-08-05 16:39 [#00337502]
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GOOD example plugexpert !!
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smokehammer
from Saigon (Vietnam) on 2002-08-05 16:44 [#00337507]
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AFX debut 1991 Ae debut 1994
therefore AFX was ahead of Ae, therefore the field leader of the two
AFX has had greater exposure. Sales-wise I suspect Aphex has outsold Ae 3 : 1 . Therefore greater exposure = likelihood of more influence.
AFX has been cited by other notable artists eg Radiohead as inspiration. I aint heard such bands hailing Ae in this way.
How many twists and turns have Ae taken between albums ? It seems they have steadily become darker and more abstract , but not with the eclectic variations of Aphex (drill n' bass/ ambient/ piano melodies/ industrial techno etc...). Therefore Aphex has pushed more boundaries and turned more heads style-wise.
and limitless other reasons I suppose....
It is an odd question , as the obvious answer is AFX. Ae are good , but far less influential .
Perhaps they have had an equal influence on the electronic music scenes' tendency towards abstract track-names..
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zaphod
from the metaverse on 2002-08-05 16:47 [#00337510]
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Hmm. I read an interview in which Thom Yorke cited Autechre as a major influence on Kid A and Amnesiac, whereas when asked about AFX, he said he hadn't really listened.
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smokehammer
from Saigon (Vietnam) on 2002-08-05 16:53 [#00337518]
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OK well I couldn't give a shit really either way
Aphex has had a greater influence on me
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zaphod
from the metaverse on 2002-08-05 16:54 [#00337521]
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alright. fine by me, it was just a question.
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010101
from Vancouver (Canada) on 2002-08-05 16:58 [#00337527]
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They are both rubbish
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smokehammer
from Saigon (Vietnam) on 2002-08-05 17:00 [#00337535]
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which I answered. possibly incorrectly. But at least I bothered to indulge your topic; perhaps someone else would like to share their thoughts ?
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zaphod
from the metaverse on 2002-08-05 17:02 [#00337537]
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well i agree with you
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john is fast
from sacramento (United States) on 2002-08-05 17:02 [#00337538]
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Aphex twin.
Thom Yorke was only trying to sound cooler by saying he was influenced by autehcre because he doesn't sound like autechre. Radiohead obviously was more influenced by aphex twin and really not even much there either. But they couldn't say "we are influenced by aphex" because you can hear it a lil and then people would say "you suck, you ripped him off"
Final statement, you can't really admit your true inspirations if you blatently try to sound like your inspiration. If so, lie about your inspirations.
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zaphod
from the metaverse on 2002-08-05 17:04 [#00337540]
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thom yorke tries to sound cool quite often, but i don't want to turn this into a radiohead and their influences discussion, becuase there are plenty of those on this MB.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2002-08-05 17:10 [#00337551]
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Radiohead are a bit pretentious... make that VERY pretentious... but I love them, and they love me.
I'd say Aphex is more important... but I like Autechre more, I think. Aphex was more influential to me, personally, but I'm more into Autechre. But if not for Aphex, I'd never know about Booth and Brown. Aphex was the hub to all electronic music, for me.
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zaphod
from the metaverse on 2002-08-05 17:13 [#00337556]
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same here about AFX. Through him I got into Squarepusher and then Ae and so on. Radiohead actually got me into electronic music with Kid A though, so even if they are pretentious (which they are), atleast they put it to good use.
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Riccardo
from somewhere beyond the ultraworl on 2002-08-05 17:15 [#00337560]
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it depends:afx has influenced a lot of rephlex artists(of course!) and probably the underground-mainstream(there's no contraddiction!!) of people like bjork,radiohead and in a certain way madonna
autechre have influenced much of warp music (brothomstates but even boards of canada owe something to their music)
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Riccardo
from somewhere beyond the ultraworl on 2002-08-05 17:16 [#00337563]
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i thought ae debuted in 1992 in the artificial intelligence compilation by wap
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2002-08-05 17:16 [#00337564]
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Yeah, it was Kid A that got me into Aphex, too... Radiohead did electronic music a great service by bringing it (kind of) to the mainstream. Did Richard a fucking favor by recruiting more ''IDMers'', but he hates them anyway.
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zaphod
from the metaverse on 2002-08-05 17:19 [#00337568]
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yeah, well Richards an asshole.
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Riccardo
from somewhere beyond the ultraworl on 2002-08-05 17:20 [#00337573]
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actually i can't see any similarities beteewn radiohead and aphex.radiohead of the last two albums still sound like radiohead...bjork made a real great service to idm stuff first with the black dig-plaid then with mark bell-lfo,she didn't need to copy anyone it was much more a collaboration
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from So.Flo on 2002-08-05 17:22 [#00337578]
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Radiohead got me into more Radiohead-Ive been listening to Ok computer and Amnesiac lately---Great albums
But Aphex Twin definitly,maybe cause for my birthday this past Thursday I got my first Aphex Twin album-Selective Ambient Works II-
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zaphod
from the metaverse on 2002-08-05 17:23 [#00337580]
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yeah you're right, ae debuted in 92, but i've read things about them that date them back to 1988.
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afxNUMB
from So.Flo on 2002-08-05 17:24 [#00337584]
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Amnesiac is very much like electronica, Of course he's still in his band and he has band beats but its completely different then other bands. =)
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Riccardo
from somewhere beyond the ultraworl on 2002-08-05 17:26 [#00337587]
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yes what i want to say is that radiohead are superior to most of the pop-rock bands of the world,but as far as electronica i'm happy they are not the reason why i chose to listen that type of music and that i enjoyed it long before kid a was released
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zaphod
from the metaverse on 2002-08-05 17:29 [#00337590]
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i agree with you there. radioheads forays into electronica are good, but not as good as AFX, ae etc. Although hearing Kid A and then moving onto Warp Records artists and so on made me appreciate electronic music more.
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afxNUMB
from So.Flo on 2002-08-05 17:41 [#00337622]
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Well they would never be like Aphex Twin or any other electronica genre, but its ok to say they've reached into it without going to far.
I have 3 Radiohead albums are they are not different from the others.
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zaphod
from the metaverse on 2002-08-05 17:42 [#00337626]
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which three, because ok computer is the standout and is pretty different from everything else they've done.
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afxNUMB
from So.Flo on 2002-08-05 17:45 [#00337628]
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Kid A Ok computer Amnesiac
The only three I need to make me satisfied
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zaphod
from the metaverse on 2002-08-05 17:46 [#00337632]
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right on because the first one sucks and the second one is only good if you really like guitar rock.
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afxNUMB
from So.Flo on 2002-08-05 17:54 [#00337638]
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Ohh definitly....Pablo Honey has its ok songs, but its nothing like the last 3 albums..I regret not seeing them when they went to Chicago but it was too far from home=)
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zaphod
from the metaverse on 2002-08-05 18:06 [#00337656]
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i was supposed to go see them at Bull Run, Virginia but the event got flooded both nights. It sucked.
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DJ Buzz
from Odessa (Ukraine) on 2002-08-05 18:51 [#00337727]
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IMHO, Ophecks is right. Ae might be better somewhere, they're more conceptual, more smoothly-finished; bud AFX is the daddy of it all, undoubtedly...
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2002-08-05 19:08 [#00337775]
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AFX IS GOD }:D
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