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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-08-01 21:08 [#00333939]
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anyone else agree with me that this album is incredible? the melodies, the rhythms, the lyrics, even the sound of the guitars. in my opinion their finest album. i get "new year's day" stuck in my head on a regular basis. i almost never, ever listen to rock albums anymore but 'war' is an album that has persevered through my changes in musical taste.
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perceptor
from North Liberty (United States) on 2002-08-01 23:05 [#00333981]
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titsworth,
i dig a lot of U2 but war has never been one of my favorites. I do love drowning man though. it is definately an important record for them but my personal favorite is october. it has a raw quality to it. one thing about u2 is that they put out quite a few good records while they've been around. everyone has they're favorites. I'm pretty sure I remember the edge saying his favorite was unforgetable. truthfully the only album I haven't been able to get into is most recent. when I hear stuck in the moment I want to use the cd as a coster.
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electro
from detroit on 2002-08-01 23:10 [#00333987]
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i prefer boy to war there are maybe four songs i only like on war boy is very raw u2 i think it is the most honest album they have done
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flea
from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-08-01 23:12 [#00333990]
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I agree with you titsworth..early U2 WAS exceptional..post Joshua Tree..the rot set in and the paunch starts to show..
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-01 23:14 [#00333993]
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Goddamn! Boy is awful. It is an easily discernable attempt to introduce a band to the masses... at a time when bands were all oriantated towards selling millions and millions of records. What I mean by that is that it is not an example of U2 being honest (because I think U2 have rarely been honest throughout their career) but rather an example of a band trying to be seen and heard.
'War' I think is a pretty good album... couple of terrible moments.... a few hangovers from the previous two records... but overall, a classic =o)
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perceptor
from North Liberty (United States) on 2002-08-01 23:18 [#00333997]
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I like actung baby and zooropa. rattle and hum is that last of the old u2 so its ok. pop is where I started questioning whether or not to stay on the ride. its a very creative record but yet still a bit cheesy. I believe that actung baby is as good as a record as the joshua tree is. there just running in opposite directions.
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perceptor
from North Liberty (United States) on 2002-08-01 23:26 [#00334003]
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its honest in so far as they were singing about what they were going through at the time. its an album filled with youth and the world revolving around themselves. october is has to do with three members struggling maintain a christian lifestyle while playing in rock band. war is an angry record in which it appears that they opened their eyes to the world around them and didn't like what they saw.
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flea
from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-08-01 23:50 [#00334021]
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rattle and hum, achtung baby and zooropa and anything beyond is just tripe..they tried to reinvent themselves as an Irish INXS...
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-02 00:03 [#00334025]
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Now THAT is hopefully ironic!!!!!
perceptor, you are completely correct regarding 'october'... nice =o)
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electro
from detroit on 2002-08-02 01:09 [#00334041]
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boy is as honest as u2 got it was their first album and sang what they wanted to sing most bands are most honest with the first album gish for smashing pumpkins is the same story it is not the most musicaly genious but it is the raw SP and the most honest also
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zaphod
from the metaverse on 2002-08-02 01:25 [#00334051]
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just as i saw this topic, new years day started playing in winamp. that and like a song are the best on this album. the first of three U2 masterpieces.
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-08-02 01:45 [#00334059]
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electro: did you know that the guy who produced joy division's albums was supposed to produce u2's debut but u2 and the producer decided against it after ian curtis' suicide? btw i love "suffer" on gish.
perceptor: it's true, everyone has their own favorite u2 albums - it's quite interesting. some bands have a lot of agreement on their best album, but u2 almost every album is equally popular among fans (i saw almost cos zooropa and pop alienated a lot of fans). personally i hated the new album asides from the chris vrenna remix of "elevation" and even that grates on my nerves if i hear it too often. i like 'pop' a lot more.
jarworski: my opinion is that u2 have always been an honest band, which makes their success all the sweeter for them. they have hits and misses, but i think it's all quite sincere. i think pop was very brave of them, i think they were honestly very interested in electronic music (who wouldn't be turned on to it, having their albums produced by brian eno?) and they dove head first into an overwhelming endeavor. yea, a lot of it is just a big dud, but some of it works. radiohead followed the exact same approach with kid a but personally i find that album much more pallatable. if they were insincere in their music they would've followed the trends in the 80s which were to either be hair metal or synth pop. i can't hate u2 cos their music just feels so honest to me, even when i don't agree with it.
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steve
from chicago on 2002-08-02 02:02 [#00334062]
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It's the only U2 album I own, it's the only U2 album I listen to. They could've and should've just retired after that album and did missionary work or something.
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electro
from detroit on 2002-08-02 13:38 [#00334522]
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i got all albums except the last one my brother bought it and i gave it a listen and yugh suck sometimes they need to just relax and chill a bit you cannot save the world and make music at the same time
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zaphod
from the metaverse on 2002-08-02 14:56 [#00334556]
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U2 stopped being good after Achtung Baby.
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raimons
from Stockholm (Sweden) on 2002-08-02 15:00 [#00334558]
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u2 had great songs 15 tears ago or so... now they just feel old and boring...
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afxNUMB
from So.Flo on 2002-08-02 16:44 [#00334625]
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War is fucking great alone with their other albums........the only one that was blah has to be the last album, but I've been to three of their concerts, their great.
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Clic
on 2002-08-02 17:38 [#00334663]
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I agree with you, titsworth.
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Phatbert 000
from Augsburg (Germany) on 2002-08-02 17:49 [#00334671]
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Achtung Baby is their absolute best. Hands down. Or maybe Joshua Tree.
War's good, October's pretty awful, sounds really cheesy.
They're currently re-mixing Pop because they were never pleased with the result. It may get a re-release.
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Phatbert 000
from Augsburg (Germany) on 2002-08-02 17:50 [#00334674]
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my mum knew bono and the edge's teacher. Said they were "thick as two short planks"
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