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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-07-31 08:03 [#00331526]
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has anyone here ever thought to him- or herself: hmm, why not take up smoking? just all of a sudden i mean. i often wonder about how people start smoking, i'm sure not every case is peer pressure.
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Jedi Chris
on 2002-07-31 08:05 [#00331528]
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No...why would I intentionally want to shorten my life?
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-07-31 08:07 [#00331529]
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oh, agreed - i've never found smoking appealing either. but so many people smoke, i'm sure some people on this board included.
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Junktion
from Northern Jutland (Denmark) on 2002-07-31 08:12 [#00331534]
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people often start smoking becuz of lack of respect.
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Jedi Chris
on 2002-07-31 08:13 [#00331535]
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What do you mean?
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Junktion
from Northern Jutland (Denmark) on 2002-07-31 08:16 [#00331537]
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I.e. once there was a boy named Little Kid. Little was so afread to end up like the geeks in his school that he found the "James Dean'ish" troublemaker-look more appealling. He simply started to smoke. 50 years later he died of cancer. The End.
yeah..I know this isnt the way it happens all the time, but this is how i most often see people starting.
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Spikee Dragon
from Newcastle (United Kingdom) on 2002-07-31 08:19 [#00331539]
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I started smoking at school on Friday's before the last lesson and on the night (not to 'fit in', because I fucking hated everyone at school.), this was when I was 16, I'm 21 now and I have been smoking all that time. I do weightlifting and training but my chest is always tight. Some days after I do a long workout I suddenly start coughing and have to run to the bathroom to clear black stuff from my throat. My cilia is starting to burn from the smoke so I have trouble clearing my throat now. I have to stop soon or my heath will drop to a point that is totally wrong for me. I tried giving up using those patches but still smoked while wearing them. I have an addictive personality so I get into the routine of smoking and it's also a placebo to my depression. The worst thing I ever done in my life was start smoking. I smoke because I'm chemically addicted to nicotine, I don't enjoy it now unless I'm smoking to calm myself down.
I dont want to live past 40 anyway.
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princo
from Shitty City (Geelong) (Australia) on 2002-07-31 10:08 [#00331625]
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Some people smoke just to fit in i suppose.... I dont smoke, cant offord to throw that kind of money away at the moment!! :S
God it sucks to be broke!
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princo
from Shitty City (Geelong) (Australia) on 2002-07-31 10:08 [#00331626]
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....but I'm cool without ciggis!! ;)
hehe
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Junktion
from Northern Jutland (Denmark) on 2002-07-31 10:09 [#00331627]
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I know the feeling...but it has ups and downs....
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2002-07-31 11:15 [#00331665]
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well, i smoke weed pretty commonly, and one time when I was stoned off my ass someone passed me a cigarrette and I just hit it, or took a drag or whatever u cig-heads call it, and realized it was quite the dumbest thing ever.
I have sympathy for those who are addicted, but I'd much rather habitualy smoke pot where I'm in a situation that I can stop if necessary just because I want to. For instance, I've been sick for about a week and havent had a single craving to smoke any weed, simply because weed is only mentally addictive, and then only if you let it control you. If I was addicted to nicotine, on the other hand, I probably would have been smoking the entire time I was/am sick.
spikee: i hope you find a way to quit man, good luck to you.. =)
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korben dallas
from nz on 2002-07-31 11:47 [#00331686]
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Yup. I have, and occasionally still do. I'm not a smoker. But I reckon the act of smoking is fucken cool - and all the paraphernalia you can get .. the zippo lighter, the metal cigarette holder, the 'ritual' of rolling one .. etc. etc. ..
Ofcourse there's downs - the smell is probably the biggest for me, lungs is pretty shitty, and vascular system comes in at third. Though i still reckon there can be virtue in 'a' cigarette.
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Spikee Dragon
from Newcastle (United Kingdom) on 2002-07-31 11:50 [#00331687]
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I smoke too many joints to quit ^-^ I will have to give the cigs up tho because my training is very hard while I smoke. Joints are worse cuz after a few of those I cant pick my remote up let alone weights. }:)
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korben dallas
from nz on 2002-07-31 11:52 [#00331688]
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seems to me that mental addiction is often underappreciated - it is after all an addiction ...
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Loogie
from Oxford (United Kingdom) on 2002-07-31 11:58 [#00331689]
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That was a very honest insight Spikee about smoking... quite refreshing, as most smokers have a "fuck you it's my body" attitude.
I can't believe how inconsiderate the overwhelming majority of smokers are, they just cannot accept that some people do not like smoke in their face.
I smoked socially from 13 to 16 because I thought it was "hard", not never heavily. At 16 the novelty wore off and I'm not an addictive person.
My weakness is that I cannot relate to addictive people and end up getting pissed off with them.
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pOgO
from behind your belly button fluff on 2002-07-31 11:59 [#00331690]
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I only realy smoke at work or when I'm drinking (and after food)
I smoke joints most of the time, muuuuch better =o)
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-07-31 12:18 [#00331697]
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No matter what your parents or peers tell you, smoking IS hard. After ten Lambert & Butler I've won many a fight. I've also impressed lots of women with my habit. After lighting up a Molboro they go weak at the knees and all I have to say is "Come hither" and they're mine.
As Chuck Key said "Don't believe the hype".
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raimons
from Stockholm (Sweden) on 2002-07-31 12:27 [#00331702]
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ive come to a point where i feel that my body says no! its strange but..im not a smoker... im what we call here in sweden, a "snusare". that meens that i use "snuff" instead of smokes. if you dont know what that is, well its tobbaco you put under your over lipp...
well to my point... ive felt this feeling the last months that i dont need nicotine as much as i needed before... it just said stop... and im feeling much better in my head..i feel..hmm..i feel much more positive... and thats just i tip if your smoking alot and feeling depresed alot without no reason... you know that nicotine is the strongest poison after heroin.. so my tip to you is to stop smoking or at least smoke less...
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2002-07-31 12:31 [#00331706]
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I smoke randomly. Some weeks I'll have a couple of packets then others nothing. I don't know why but some weeks I just really crave a cigarette then others don;t give them a second thought. I've never thought "Ooh I'll take it up"
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2002-07-31 12:51 [#00331722]
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"seems to me that mental addiction is often underappreciated - it is after all an addiction ..."
you are completely right, but I meant that a mental addiction is by far the easiest to avoid. You can't TELL your body to stop craving nicotine, but u can tell yourself not to smoke weed, and your body wont physically be craving it anyway. For a while this summer I was smoking pot every day several times a day, and then I just took a week long break because I wanted to, its as simple as that. You just cant let yourself get too wrapped up into it.
I also believe that if my government would just legalize and regulate marijauna, that there would be MUCH less mental addiction based on the fact that there would be no glamor (sp?) left in doing it because "its cool to do things that are illegal" :)
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jand
from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-07-31 12:57 [#00331728]
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I'm a 20 a day man....which is very bad I know...
Could probably give up with patches etc...but then I guess I'd have to give up on the old jazz cigarettes as well (which is kinda unlikely...)...
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vonb
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2002-07-31 12:59 [#00331732]
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joints are you good for you healt... anyways... the combo is an evening with aphex-music and jays... you cant beat that
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2002-07-31 13:08 [#00331743]
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vonb, will you be my friend? :)
seriously tho, aphex and some bud makes me one happy camper. its not that the weed really enhances the music that much, but rather allows me to appreciate it much more deeply. that shit is spiritual, man!
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Loogie
from Oxford (United Kingdom) on 2002-07-31 13:19 [#00331748]
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I'm so glad I work in an age where smoking is disallowed in the work place...
I know my colleagues would smoke in the office if they could, being inconsiderate fuckers.
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dmise
from Melbourne (Australia) on 2002-07-31 13:47 [#00331781]
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I've just never had the desire to smoke. Like princo said it's just such a waste of money. I guess I always reasoned not to do it because of that fact.
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Mickey Mouse
from The Moon on 2002-07-31 13:49 [#00331784]
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Mickey Mouse says: Smoking is bad
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raimons
from Stockholm (Sweden) on 2002-07-31 13:49 [#00331785]
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it is bad... but tasty...for some...
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2002-07-31 13:56 [#00331795]
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Smoking is fine for your health but only if you grow yourown tobacco and roll your own. Its the crap the cigarette companies put in the cigs that is bad for you. You don't hear about massive amounts of Lung Cancer in Shamanic tribes where part of their rituals is to smoke massive amounts of tobacco. Having said that I smoke Superkings which are probably the worst for you. Until ganga is legal its what I smoke when i fancy it.
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flim-flam
from In a cupboard, in the kitchen. (United Kingdom) on 2002-07-31 13:59 [#00331799]
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I started smoking around the age of 18 due to the stresses of work!
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LeCoeur
from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2002-07-31 14:04 [#00331802]
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when i was aboot ummm 10 i 'borrowed' two ciggarettes from an uncle and me and my cousin went into a camper and TRIED to smoke them. i believe i turned GREEN.......we both ran out of that smoked out camper to get watah in my house and well.....you can imagine our SECRET wasn't a secret much longer!
my father set me down on the table and asked if i wanted him to buy me a pack of ciggs so i could smoke them all and get it out of my system.....=0) i reckon thats what took ANY desire to smoke ever again out of my system!
i'm so glad that happened to this day......it's a very VIVID memory, as was the whole first time smoking experience. why did i want to try it....well when i watched my uncle smoke, it did look KOOL. thats of course from a 10 year olds perspective.
i was mentioning just yesterday how a festival concert last friday was marred for me by TWO things one the sound system was so loud i thought my EARS were gonna bleed they hurt so bad. the other was there was this pack of girls behind me that for the entire show 4+ hours, who smoked (and drank) NON STOP. it smelled like a bar OUTSIDE. the air was so still and it was 100+ degrees weather that the smell and smoke lingered. i had to leave constantly for AIR breaks (i have asthma btw and did not have my inhaler) plus my eyes were burning. at once point during the evening one girl had a joint in one hand a ciggy in the other. i mean HOW ridiculous is that!!! by the end of the night i coulda jumped those girls i was so bugged.
anyway IMO it's terribly inconsiderate, even outdoors in close proximity to others who do NOT smoke, to smoke. interestingly enough have no close friends who smoke either.
it's sad as well to see some hard core people on flights who can't go 1 hour without a smoke. one guy even asked if he could smoke OUTSIDE the door of the plane while we were loading passengers. i told him.....there's 1000 pounds of jet fuel out there, that would NOT be a good idea.......and he was like SOOOO I NEED A CIGARETTE!! he was serious.
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LeCoeur
from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2002-07-31 14:08 [#00331804]
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ackkkkkk
my MASSAGE was too long.....
cont...
i WAS serious too when i asked him to sit DOWN.
it's sad to see people such slaves to their addictions =(
spikee dragon GOOD LUCK with quitting. i know how your chest feels after that concert experience!
theres my TWO cents and them some folks =0) guess i had a lot to say about this topic
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B3n
from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-07-31 14:36 [#00331823]
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moral is, if you want to be friends with lecouoer, don't smoke!
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-07-31 14:40 [#00331826]
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Everyone always beats up on smokers for costing the NHS money. Well what about fat people? They cost us more.
For smoking see Bill Hicks.
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B3n
from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-07-31 14:43 [#00331829]
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I think smokers get a hard time, but it sickens me when you see a mother or father leaned over their young child with a cigarette sticking out their mouth
my cousin always used to be green because him mum smoked a hell of a lot, lol
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LeCoeur
from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2002-07-31 14:43 [#00331830]
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HAHAHAHHAA
RASCAL.........that is NOT ze moral of the story......ehehhe
i'm just saying it ANNOYS me....and YES that is ONE thing i have tried. =0)
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LeCoeur
from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2002-07-31 14:45 [#00331835]
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bill hicks is HILARIOUS....tee hee
hey do you use your vomit account mr jonesy? =0)
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-07-31 14:47 [#00331837]
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No, it kept making me feel nauseas! Nah seriously, I can't access it from work and I have no connection at home. Have you sent me mail? U cool?
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Pirotess
from Swansea (United Kingdom) on 2002-07-31 14:54 [#00331845]
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Is the stress still getting to you now?
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LeCoeur
from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2002-07-31 14:55 [#00331848]
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yes i have mr jonesy......ya brattttt
it's nothing pressing just some nekked shots.... J/K...however i wanted to make sure i was correct cos it came back once.....i think i only put one 't' in omlette....tee hee =0)
*we are returning you to the smoking topic after this brief interlude*
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B3n
from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-07-31 14:59 [#00331854]
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germans smoke like chimneys...and you go over there and they've got like these cheesy billboards that insinuate smoking will make your life better (that wouldn't be allowed here)
I think its made worse by the fact that they are F1 fanatics so all smoke marlboro
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Co-existence
from Bergen (Norway) on 2002-07-31 14:59 [#00331856]
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I love to smoke and i can't imagine a life without tobacco! The health hazard of smoking is way exaggerated. At least I try to eat healthy and really I feel fine. I'm 29 and I have been smoking since I was 18... and what is a joint without tobacco?!?!?!
The thing is you can't really quit. You will NEVER stop having cravings and I simply don't want to torture myself like that! The brain is designed for nicotine...its natural....
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-07-31 14:59 [#00331858]
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Hey, I'll post my email at work briefly on my details. It'd be nice to hear from you. Your address in is my old file. Check now. You have five minutes then this email will self destruct...
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LeCoeur
from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2002-07-31 15:07 [#00331876]
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*got it* DANKE
ummm hey.....could that addy BE any longer.....=B
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pOgO
from behind your belly button fluff on 2002-07-31 15:10 [#00331881]
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my mates mum made her EAT a pack of ciggies when she got caught !!
My mum just grounded me =oD
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Co-existence
from Bergen (Norway) on 2002-07-31 15:18 [#00331890]
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Did she die? Eating tobacco is way more dangerouse than smoking them...
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Pirotess
from Swansea (United Kingdom) on 2002-07-31 15:27 [#00331906]
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She was probably just really sick..
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-07-31 15:28 [#00331911]
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One of my friends ate a cigarette when he was drunk...
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B3n
from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-07-31 15:30 [#00331915]
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well, that sounds like a story and a half! :D
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