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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-07-28 16:24 [#00328052]
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anybody else read this book?
its pretty amazing, very scary.
great pictures by Dave McKean.
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Steamtank
from Melancholia Isle (Poland) on 2002-07-28 17:27 [#00328118]
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i ve read "neverwhere" by gaiman fantastic novel me think
have gaiman written some scripts for "sandman"?
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-07-28 18:08 [#00328163]
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gaiman wrote all the scripts for "sandman"
also try the novel he wrote with Terry Pratchett - "good omens". its hilarious AND dark.
when you've read that :), read the other graphic novels he's written scripts for - especially the ones drawn by Dave McKean - they're spectacular and very intelligently written ("violent cases", "mr.punch" and especially recommended: "signal to noise")
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AphexAcid
from Sweden on 2008-03-26 16:08 [#02188350]
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Excellent book.
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optimus prime
on 2008-03-26 20:50 [#02188404]
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this is a delicious book but i never found it all that scary. i'm sure it would be scary for a child, though.
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chaosmachine
from Ottawa (Canada) on 2008-03-26 22:53 [#02188432]
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I bought a Neil Gaiman book once. It had talking rats and stuff... Wasn't really my thing, didn't finish it.
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mortsto-x
from Trondheim/Bodø (Norway) on 2008-03-27 01:00 [#02188447]
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Never heard about it, but the Gaiman and McKean collabs are always good, so I'll check it out. There is also a Coraline-movie coming out, IMDB told me.
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AphexAcid
from Sweden on 2008-03-27 09:28 [#02188530]
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Was it about a young girl and another world/dimension?
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010101
from Vancouver (Canada) on 2008-03-27 09:38 [#02188534]
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I am huge Dave Mckean/Neil Gaiman fan, but the Mirror Mask movie was absolute shit. With the exeption of Stardust, I don't think that Gaimans' stuff translates well to film, the made for TV stuff was like bad 80s' Dr Who. I know it wasn't his script, but Constantine was a bad translation of a great charictor. I hope that they never make a Sandman movie.
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thatne
from United States on 2008-03-27 10:15 [#02188539]
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i read coraline i'd like a sandman movie but especially an anime
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chaosmachine
from Ottawa (Canada) on 2008-03-27 12:10 [#02188573]
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maybe, i remember something about that.
Neverwhere was the title.
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staz
on 2008-03-27 12:11 [#02188576]
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neil GAYman
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staz
on 2008-03-27 12:12 [#02188577]
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hahahahaaha oh man STRIKE & YOU'RE OUT
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AphexAcid
from Sweden on 2008-03-27 12:13 [#02188578]
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Oh, ok.
Coraline's about a girl entering another parallel dimension.
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big
from lsg on 2025-03-07 16:57 [#02641778]
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problematic
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2025-03-07 17:47 [#02641779]
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you can get both the words 'anal' and 'minge' out of his name
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Wolfslice
from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2025-03-07 19:30 [#02641789]
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I had to look up the term "minge." It's a good one.
I liked The Sandman graphics novels and have American Gods unread on my shelf. I didn't know he wrote Coraline, didn't Tim Burton make a sort of shit claymation/puppet movie of that?
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2025-03-07 19:43 [#02641790]
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its a very common word around my way, hopefully will see a more global adoption of the term
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2025-03-07 19:45 [#02641791]
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What is it about celebs sticking their willies where they aren't wanted, is this a reflection of society at large, does this go one as much in the general population, but it never gets mentioned? am i'm sheltered and naïve?
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Wolfslice
from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2025-03-07 19:59 [#02641792]
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hi hyperflake i can attempt to respond but it will be a hit and run because I gotta start a long drive.
According to evolutionary psychology (my major!) every thing males do is to stick their willies in something.
Now, I don't THINK gaiman was accused of rape? It was more the idea that he abused his standing to have consensual sex? Rape would be a different story.
Well according to the theory, the same way male animals grow elaborate displays of feathers (peacocks and others) and grow horns to fight over and impress females (they have ONE egg to protect and we have a gagillion sperm to spread), people make art and music really solely to display skill, and that display of skill is entirely designed to impress guarded females for fornication. The world's best chef makes his dainty little shit scallop plate with a spoonful of food and charges $600, but he's really showing his talent to stick his "willy" in something.
A lot of it IS and WAS consensual, but there has been a change of thinking, where some are saying this is an abuse of power rather than basic human nature. Again, this doesn't apply to actual rape, but ultimately is just someone complaining about fucking 5 star chef out of regret months later. Certainly Gaiman and these chefs are gonna drop em like a sack of shit in the end, on to the next floosie.
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Wolfslice
from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2025-03-07 20:01 [#02641793]
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interestingly, many colleges dropped "evolutionary psychology" as a class or major specification in the last decade, because it wasn't in line enough with modern thinking. I was lucky to get good lectures on it before that happened.
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Wolfslice
from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2025-03-07 20:02 [#02641794]
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aphex twin made smojphace to get sex.
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Wolfslice
from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2025-03-07 20:04 [#02641795]
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also this same theory explains why men are more competitive and quite literally better at almost everything unrelated to emotional support and child rearing, I'm sorry to say.
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Wolfslice
from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2025-03-07 20:25 [#02641796]
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lastly: a quick wiki of Gaiman's alleged misconduct does imply actual unwanted touching, so for him specifically I'm inclined to just leave it to the courts. I'm in a place now where I have general doubts about anything related to this particular subject, but those are my own. I'll leave it to a jury presented with evidence. Aight 3 hour drive LOCK ON. Music queued: Alva Noto Xerrox 2, Tim Hecker Shards (new), and belb drumtrack 3.
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2025-03-07 20:32 [#02641797]
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Yeah I'm not sure how much is regret, wasn't there a couple of women? I dunno he don't look a bit of a wrong un!
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2025-03-07 20:33 [#02641798]
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Seriously its a bit depressing to think all of our motivation is revolving around trying to get our leg over
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2025-03-07 20:35 [#02641799]
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I remember being motivated by different things as a child because I was completely unaware of any sexual drive, well consciously anyway. Perhaps it is for the majority of men
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2025-03-07 23:51 [#02641808]
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yes he's been accused of (among other things) rapes, and a civil suit for that has begun - apart from that, multiple women have accused him of sexual assault against them.
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2025-03-08 00:47 [#02641816]
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Yeah I read some article a while ago, i think there are texts of him panicking and shit, i think his Wife seems almost as bad as him
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2025-03-08 00:53 [#02641817]
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thats the article I read the other month, he paid off a woman in 2022 for being handsy, if he is indeed innocent i hope he is exonerated, the multiple allegations seem legit though
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2025-03-08 01:03 [#02641818]
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Apparently a quote from Gaiman: " "On a day like today it's worth saying, I believe survivors. Men must not close our eyes and minds to what happens to women in this world." - hoisted by his own petard
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2025-03-08 02:16 [#02641819]
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evolutionary psychology is kooky shit, i'm sorry they got to you at an impressionable age
anyway, predictable kneejerk reaction from men left wondering if they've got any skeletons in their closets, but let's have a look at the actual allegations, yeah?
Claire described non-consensual kissing and groping by Gaiman after meeting him at a book tour event, with Gaiman making a $60,000 payment to her in August 2022. A woman identified as "K", who also first met Gaiman at a book signing, said that during their relationship he subjected her to painful sex that she "neither wanted nor enjoyed".
Scarlett Pavlovich, a former nanny for Gaiman and Palmer's child, alleges that Gaiman sexually assaulted her within hours of their first meeting in February 2022.
A former tenant of Gaiman's named Caroline Wallner alleges that he demanded sexual favours in exchange for being allowed to continue living on his property.
The writer Julia Hobsbawm accused Gaiman of "an aggressive, unwanted pass" and described how Gaiman pushed her onto a sofa and French kissed her in 1986.
sounds good to you?
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2025-03-08 03:49 [#02641822]
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There is only one suitable punishment, he must be burnt in a giant wicker man constructed from his own literature, while his accusers dance naked round the rising flames, taunting him lasciviously as their pert breasts bounce up and down
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2025-03-08 03:50 [#02641823]
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either that or thrown down a medieval oubliette filled with rubber dildos
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big
from lsg on 2025-03-08 07:27 [#02641825]
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people commenting that haven't read this writer and only care because it's someone seen as a left winger, pretending politics is just interpersonal stuff, ignoring elephants in the room like capitalism, white supremacy and patriarchy
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big
from lsg on 2025-03-08 08:14 [#02641826]
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apply to one self when appropriate
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Roger Wilco
from Mo's Beans on 2025-03-08 08:25 [#02641827]
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I have read this writer, his early stuff anyway. And you mention White Supremacy like its a bad thing. Crazy!?!?!
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ijonspeches
from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2025-03-08 10:10 [#02641831]
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one thing appears to be certain. need for sex drives men crazy, usually in a more violent way than women. whats making things worse for women (amongst other things) is that they usually suffer more from sexual aggression due to their anatomy as the recipient.
some penetration scars may never heal in a way a woman can enjoy sex after without being reminded of a horrible crime done to them.
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mermaidman
on 2025-03-08 11:09 [#02641833]
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i read sandman can i comment
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2025-03-08 12:35 [#02641836]
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yeah i don't think i'm ever going back to the discord, sorry
is the one (1) other woman still there?
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big
from lsg on 2025-03-08 12:53 [#02641837]
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pomme showed up
i don't know who the woman was/is
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Roger Wilco
from Mo's Beans on 2025-03-08 12:58 [#02641838]
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There were no women on the Discord. Mermaidman was a bit fruity, that was about it.
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2025-03-08 12:59 [#02641839]
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oh good you've memory holed her (spiral's friend)
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Tony Danza
from Fabulous Hollywood on 2025-03-08 13:04 [#02641840]
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oh that's historian Eric Hobsbawm's daughter, by the by
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mermaidman
on 2025-03-08 13:14 [#02641841]
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is this a reply to the wrong thread?
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mermaidman
on 2025-03-08 13:18 [#02641842]
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i was going to post an ascii kiss but it didn't work
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2025-03-08 13:39 [#02641844]
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Just one word Dan intersectionality, repeat that word, until it becomes a reflex action, a mantra, then find the nearest white hair wizened woman you can on the street, bend down on one knee, genuflect before her and beg her for forgivness for your terrible ways!
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Wolfslice
from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2025-03-08 13:43 [#02641845]
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I went back to college at like 25 so I must have still been pretty impressionable. Your psychology is evolved just as every other part of you and every other living thing is. humans aren't anything special.
also trying to act like I didn't already CORRECT and state Neil Gaiman's allegations is your usual utter strawman bullshit that you always do, always in bad faith and you're not worth arguing with ever.
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2025-03-08 13:58 [#02641846]
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I assume that's for Darius? I hope so cos I don't know anything about psychology apart from the average armchair variety
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2025-03-08 14:03 [#02641847]
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