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offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-06-28 23:32 [#00288820]
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there have been some posts saying the electronic music
sales are down alot... and that its because of mp3s... and
we should buy more cds.

but then i see all these posts of people saying that warp
gives them free cds in their shipment...

i dont get it...

youd think if they were hurting from sales... they wouldnt
just give stuff away...

im confused? someone please explain!


 

offline 010101 from Vancouver (Canada) on 2002-06-28 23:37 [#00288821]
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I think they are trying to enlist a strong regular cliontel.


 

offline mccabe from fuck knows .......I`m lost !!! on 2002-06-28 23:40 [#00288823]
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of couse they make a profit,giving stuff away is just
advertisement so more people will hear about them & may buy
more by artist/artists in the process.or maybe im to
cynical.


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-06-28 23:41 [#00288826]
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i live in america... will thier be alot of shipping charge
if i order from them?

and how do they figure the pounds to dollar...?


 

offline Aaladorn from Hull (United States) on 2002-06-28 23:43 [#00288828]
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I don't think shipping is that bad, well, it's more than
U.S. shipping for sure, but not outragous like you might
would think.


 

offline Clobe Smith from san francisco (United States) on 2002-06-28 23:47 [#00288829]
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shipping isn't bad at all. if you have an account with warp
and live in america, before you hit "send order," they give
you a link to a conversion chart.

and another thing!, as much as i appreciate budakhan
mindphone, why not send an album i DON'T have? eh, oh well


 

offline Inverted Whale from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2002-06-28 23:47 [#00288830]
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They don't figure the exchange rate, your credit card
company does - you'll get the current rate.


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-06-28 23:50 [#00288831]
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cool...

thanks for the info dudes!

*contemplates everything i want to buy*
afx logo shirt
warp logo shirt
plaid shirt
squarepusher shirt
and looooots of cds.... µwahahaha


 

offline Smyrma from Beloit, WI (United States) on 2002-06-28 23:51 [#00288832]
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I made an order today because I heard people telling tales
of getting free swag in their orders. The two discs I
ordered totalled about 37 or 38 US$ including shipping.


 

offline Joyrex from watmm.com (United States) on 2002-06-29 00:53 [#00288862]
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Free stuff from WARP varies; I've gotten promo albums months
in advance of their official release (Go Plastic) with tiny
orders, and I've gotten a few postcards with large orders
(DrukQs - ordered the vinyl and CD). I guess it depends on
if adding an extra item will push it into another shipping
category or not may influence what they put in there.

I'm in the states, and I always get my orders promptly and
it's usually 4 squid for shipping (about 6.50 US) on almost
everything I order that is normal CD or record size.

You also gotta consider the US economy is down, and that
does influence other world economies as well.

This file-sharing this is new technology - it will be some
time before people get used to it and the industry finds a
way to profit from it and things will stabilize.

The question is, will smaller labels like Rephlex and Planet
µ be able to hang on?

I sure hope so for our sake and theirs.


 

offline J198 from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2002-06-29 01:47 [#00288892]
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or you could just buy their albums if you want to support
them, and make your own shirts, which is easy, fun, and not
too expensive like pretty much every piece of merchandise in
the world..



 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-06-29 02:08 [#00288899]
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i wasnt saying that i dont buy cds

i buy ALOT

i was just curious cause the topic of mp3s and sales has
been mentioned alot

i dont like making shirts... i dont know why...


 

offline afxNUMB from So.Flo on 2002-06-29 02:33 [#00288916]
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I love buying Cds....the only mp3 stuff I have is mix cds of
the beatles and Aphex...making shirts??? ehhh thats a waste,
buy one!

Zeus-Youre music master over there, I know Ive heard your
stuff- keep your cool homie


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-06-29 02:37 [#00288921]
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"Zeus-Youre music master over there, I know Ive heard your
stuff- keep your cool homie"

i dont follow...?


 

offline jand from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-29 02:47 [#00288933]
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I've always had great service from WARP....prob better than
any others....

Seem to get things to me within a day or 2.....plus some
goodies!!!....

SUPPORT THE LABEL DIRECTLY!!! (when you can).....and the
WarpMart prices are very good as well...


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-06-29 02:49 [#00288935]
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but... would it be better for me to buy in the states...

cause pounds are alot...


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2002-06-29 13:30 [#00289241]
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Zeus - i think she was compimenting you on your music =)


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2002-06-29 13:32 [#00289242]
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i emailed them yesterday, Jand, begging them to accept my
debit card, or at least take a Postal Order or a Banker's
Check - automated response said the dude was out til
wednesday :(


 

offline J198 from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2002-06-29 13:40 [#00289247]
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ok sorry, this is getting off topic, but

"making shirts??? ehhh thats a waste"

how is making shirts a waste, when you already have some
boring white shirts lying around, some black fabric paint
and a brush.

Paying 30 pounds or more for a shirt with a logo that you
could just as well create yourself seems more like a waste
to me.

You already pay more than enough money for the artist's
albums..


 

offline chapman from United Kingdom on 2002-06-29 13:49 [#00289248]
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i'm sure that warpmart is a very profitable business, since
there are few other outlets for their stock


 

offline B3n from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-29 14:13 [#00289250]
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few other outlets? what about HMV and all the other
highstreet shops?

but yes, i'm sure with the fans that are more into warp it
is VERY successful

as for the free stuff, I think much of it may be things
lying around, they must accumilate shitloads


 

offline Riccardo from somewhere beyond the ultraworl on 2002-06-29 15:47 [#00289280]
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i think that are cord label like warp shouldn't be afraid of
poor sales...i wouldn't like warp signing bad artists or
groups just to make some money...i also think that lots of
money come from the gigs instead of records sales..i know
some friends that enjoy warp music live but they don't buy
warp stuff


 

offline hannibal from United Kingdom on 2002-06-29 20:40 [#00289475]
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giving away promos and stuff isn't goig to hurt sales from
warpmart cos, apart from it being good advertisement, warp
are 'cutting out the middle man' to coin a phrase you'd
think. so theyre getting bigger profits so they can afford
freebies.


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-07-01 07:05 [#00291360]
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i don't think the warpmart prices are reasonable at all
actually, so far i've been able to get everything i want
domestically from bn.com (cheap prices and FREE shipping) or
from label sites like heftyrecords.com. not only are label
sites prices almost always cheaper than those offered at
warpmart, i don't have to pay $6.50 shipping overseas. if i
ever find something i can't get domestically i'll order from
warpmart, cos i've always wanted their free swag.

speaking of which, one of the main reasons they give out
free stuff is cos they have an abundance of it and they take
up too much space in their headquarters, especially misprint
stuff and older promos they never sent out. the other main
reason, as already discussed, is just advertisement and
building up a loyal fanbase.


 


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