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plugexpert
from Nijmegen (Netherlands, The) on 2002-06-24 08:44 [#00282594]
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sup audio-ware collectors,..........
lately I've been struggling 2 begin on some new tracks. I don't know maybe it's because of the summer,..or I'm just lacking motivation right now.
After all,.I made over a 100 tracks last year,...so I guess I need a vacation.
I'd like 2 know what U guyz do ,.when facing "writers-block".?
Also when making music I drafted away from the faster BPM 150 to 96,...whats the BPM U usely Use for tracks?
Is there a magic IDM BPM range ,I haven't thought of yet?
RZPCT
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license
from out of nowhere on 2002-06-24 08:47 [#00282600]
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I wonder that myself. here's some things:
doing something really fun with friends taking pictures going for a walk or drive, especially somewhere new writing poetry (or doing something else creative - sometimes it helps your musical creativity for you to be creative, but not musically)
watching movies, especially foreign ones (they're usually more uplifting and inspiring)
smelling perfumes/incense/candles/etc. thrift stores. :)
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aron
from saskatoon (Canada) on 2002-06-24 08:50 [#00282602]
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there was a time not long ago where i was suffering from hardcore writer's block.
i couldn't really do anything about it, so i just stopped makig songs for a while, and i just experimented with sound and stuff.
now i'm slowly comming back and begining to write some ok music again.
i just let it be.. if i can't write a song, i can't. just go and do something different for a while.
as for the bpm thing, i'm sure it's different for everyone, but my range is anywhere from 85 to about 450bpm.
lately i've been doing stuff at about 190.
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plugexpert
from Nijmegen (Netherlands, The) on 2002-06-24 08:52 [#00282603]
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I'm still searching when creating music,.2 some magic style,.that'll get me a deal immediately,..
ok,.I know that'll prolly won't happen,.. I still care 2 much what other peeps think of my music. Maybe when I don't give a fuck anymore what a labelboss will think,..I'll make better music(?)
Anywayz,..I'm thinking of creating some less underground shit under another name. Fuckit I'll do some Hip Hop tracks for my brother and some 2 step for my girly,......
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-24 09:01 [#00282613]
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When you get "writer's block" whatever that's supposed to be, don't take there advice and do social things in the real world, it's useless. Instead just create half-assed music you don't like on purpose, try to annoy yourself, do anything as long as you don't leave the computer screen. There's no ideal idm beat range, the term idm was a label that obviously wasn't created by autechre or someone that knows what the hell they're doing. They could just make a genre "weird music" I don't see much flaw in that, other than subjectivity as usual. I hope my feedback was entirely useless, one thing you could try is not reading other people's useless crap and make music with that time instead. Of course I'm a hipocryte, which is that element that superman is vulnerable to.
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plugexpert
from Nijmegen (Netherlands, The) on 2002-06-24 09:05 [#00282619]
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Hehe,......
"Instead just create half-assed music"
I've been doing that without "writers-block"! No but seriously Superman is cripple now
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od_step_cloak
from Pleth (Australia) on 2002-06-24 09:06 [#00282622]
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yep, go outsdie and get drunk with friends. gettign stoned is good too.
also just playign with sound textures and that. make lots of new soudns and then try to use them.
or just get drunk.
the worst thing to do is to try and force somethign good. it's fuckgin impossible.
if you go away and dont write for ages, usualyl you compile lots of ideas, which is cool.
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license
from out of nowhere on 2002-06-24 09:10 [#00282625]
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yeah getting drunk is great for inspiration, because you just don't give a fuck enough to nitpick with whether something's good. make sure to record it though, or at least save the files (if you're too drunk, get a friend to do it or something).
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-24 09:10 [#00282626]
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Well the stuff I heard quite awhile ago (well I'm not good at mentally measuring time, it might have been 4 years or 2 weeks ago...) was quite good from what my brain remembers, but my brain has a weird habit of modifying memories, making good ones bad and vice versa. I can't think of anything interesting to say now.
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plugexpert
from Nijmegen (Netherlands, The) on 2002-06-24 11:20 [#00282816]
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more tips please
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REFLEX
from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2002-06-24 11:56 [#00282912]
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well.... I use different BPMs but I usually just use 120. For now - anyway.
But uh, when I get the "writers block" I usually just dont think about it and know that since its something I like to do and dont FORCE myself to do, that ill regain the want to make more music again, sometimes ill make a track and pump it out within a few nights or so, but then ill start something and think about it differently when I come back to it a week or two later. I figure, as I used to do with my old hardcore/punk band, when writing or creating a song or piece to a song, there should be no schedual {goddamn spelling}, or specific time goals. So Ill always know that ill make something out of what I want soon enough.
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2002-06-24 12:02 [#00282926]
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Usually I write music in the 180 - 400 bpm range, but its always in half or quarter time, so it usually comes out sounding about 90 - 200 bpm. Really lets you texture you beats nice and such.
Altho lately I have been slowing it down drasticaly.
What I normally do when blocked is to do other things, like remixing, remastering, polish up some old trax I don't like, set a goal to produce a certain amounts of minutes worth of finish music within a week without giving any thought to quality. Stuff like that. Testing out different styles of music also works.
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plugexpert
from Nijmegen (Netherlands, The) on 2002-06-24 12:02 [#00282927]
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I once (years back) analysed my favorite jungle track by writing down the bpm rate + time signatures of the track build up.
so lets say 0.00-1.09 intro 1.09-1.56 beat + pad etc etc,....but of course more elaborated then this example.
It was the circles track from Adam F,...I love the progression in melody,..so I wanted 2 emulate and analyse his track.
Maybe a good idea 2 do the same with Aphex Twin,.not 2 become a clone but 2 learn stuff.
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Junktion
from Northern Jutland (Denmark) on 2002-06-24 12:05 [#00282931]
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I usally use tempo 400+bmp...often 600-700...but i don't recommend it...it causes bad overview...
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Amonbrune
from Vancouver (Canada) on 2002-06-24 12:06 [#00282933]
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Ive been doing some ambient stuff at 40 BPM....it turned out really good. i got a nice string movement with dolphin noises. I wish you could hear it
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-06-24 12:38 [#00282985]
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I usually make sounds in synth programs when I can't actually compose. That way when it comes to writing the next song, you have some new instruments ready.
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Monumrnt
from To (Canada) on 2002-06-24 12:48 [#00283000]
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BPM? Sorry I calculate the things in mili-seconds/sample. So, 1.333 is my favourite.
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Wizard MaC
from Amersfoort (Netherlands, The) on 2002-06-24 12:54 [#00283006]
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BTW Ceri JC, I often do the same thing as you do: creating sounds when I have a lack of composing creativity. Music & sounds are an almost endless way of joy...
Some time ago I had a writer's block, but creating music is my absolute fav thing to do so I started to remix some songs I like, while thinking "I've made so my much creative songs last years, so why shouldn't I use stuff made by others to do something creative with?!"
resulting in 2 totally insane remixes... Short time after that (after I passed my exams!!!) the inspiration and motivation where back again. And better than ever!
I experienced an explosion of creativity resulting in about 9 awesome songs, meant to finish my new cd.
Last time most of my tracks are between 120 and 165 BPM.Not too slow not too f a s t
I like walking in nature, just to experience that little thing called peace
I also like painting; especially intuitive
I have loads of weird stories and poems and comics made by me and other people. I really got my own special sense of humour: most people just don't get it when they read a comic of me.
They just keep staring at it and say "ehmm, what's the point? What do you mean with this?"
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fat kaimo
from Finland on 2002-06-24 12:56 [#00283010]
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when i don't feel like making making music, i don't. i go out. or i'll take few days off. you have a new approach to it when you come back.
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Wizard MaC
from Amersfoort (Netherlands, The) on 2002-06-24 13:08 [#00283029]
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Fat Kaimo: I agree with that. Some weeks ago we went to London with school. Before that trip I had the intention to create "uptempo space-energetic music". After that trip I wanted something more "downtempo", just more relaxed while still sounding "space".
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plugexpert
from Nijmegen (Netherlands, The) on 2002-06-24 19:37 [#00283489]
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ah,.remixing this track from Slemper will give me some inspiration,......I'm down with O.P.P. (other peoples productions)
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pachi
from yo momma (United States) on 2002-06-24 19:42 [#00283492]
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anybody recommend any hardware for drill-&-bass, idm-type stuff?
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pachi
from yo momma (United States) on 2002-06-24 19:43 [#00283493]
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i've used cooledit for precision editing & writing songs & such but it takes much too long
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hannibal
from United Kingdom on 2002-06-24 19:43 [#00283494]
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if im decided to make some tune, i usually am more motivated when i'm busy doing other things, like when i don't have much time for it. rather than if i'd have a whole afternoon for it or something.
wierd.
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plugexpert
from Nijmegen (Netherlands, The) on 2002-06-24 19:43 [#00283495]
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get some samplers,...(personally I'm a software head tho)
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license
from out of nowhere on 2002-06-24 19:43 [#00283496]
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a sequencer w/ decent resolution and a sampler.
or buzz/modplug/any tracker software
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license
from out of nowhere on 2002-06-24 19:44 [#00283498]
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hannibal, I have that some phenomena...I tried to figure out how that works, but I couldn't.
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pachi
from yo momma (United States) on 2002-06-24 19:46 [#00283499]
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actually i'm prolly best off with a mac laptop for that kinda stuff
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license
from out of nowhere on 2002-06-24 19:50 [#00283505]
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well, yeah if you wanna make glitchy stuff w/ real time software like max/msp. but you're just as fine w/ a PC for making drill&bass...it's really not all that processor intensive, you're talking about just samples being sequenced at high speeds, which can be done even on earlier pentiums. well maybe not too early. :p
seriously though, you can really get by with just a sampler and a sequencer, especially if you're just going for drill&bass. the total investment can be as cheap as about $250 (think: RY-30 and Yamaha TX16w/Akai S900, etc.)
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license
from out of nowhere on 2002-06-24 19:51 [#00283509]
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in fact, mu-ziq used an RY-30 for some of his stuff, so that would make the total investment as cheap as $100, as long as you can put up with the built in sounds :)
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Paco
from Gothenburg (Sweden) on 2002-06-24 19:54 [#00283511]
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Wow! Are you from the future?
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license
from out of nowhere on 2002-06-24 19:55 [#00283513]
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NANU NANU!
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pachi
from yo momma (United States) on 2002-06-24 19:56 [#00283515]
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i consider milliseconds also
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license
from out of nowhere on 2002-06-24 19:58 [#00283516]
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if you're that anal retentive, then you'll have to put up with sound editors (and little real-time control). you can edit more minute than milliseconds within a sampler (that is, with a sampling rate above 1000hz :p)
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wildrover
from springfield (United States) on 2002-06-24 19:59 [#00283521]
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plug, the only thing i can say is..... listen to none of these suggestions, and all of these suggestions. take your own road, and one day you'll find the way. everyone has their own way of removing their blocks, mine was getting drunk, that unfortuneatly has killed all ambition now, and my creativity is all but lost.
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Paco
from Gothenburg (Sweden) on 2002-06-24 19:59 [#00283522]
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I'm reading you like an open book. I have foreseen your beliefs that you thought I was addressing you, license. Closer examination of my post will reveal the "follow up to Monumrnt" :)
Another tip: Add another LFO to every patch used.
-P
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pachi
from yo momma (United States) on 2002-06-24 20:00 [#00283523]
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well, u kno me!
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license
from out of nowhere on 2002-06-24 20:02 [#00283527]
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yeah, find your own way. I've just found that doing everything sitting in front of a computer screen gets dull...so instead, I stand in front of 5 little green computer screens! :)
seriously though, it's easier to squeeze realtime control out of gear than it is a computer. but if absolute and total dicatatorship over your music is what you want, then computers are fab.
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hepburnenthorpe
from sydney (Australia) on 2002-06-24 20:59 [#00283588]
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if im in a slump, i usually just revert to making sounds / textures. pull out absynth, and just get into making banks of sounds. nto concentrating on sequencing anything together for a while is usefull. plus, when you do get back around to making stuff youve got a heaps of new sounds to do so with.
use your time wisely.
of course going out and getting pissed with my mates is allways a good option too!
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pachi
from yo momma (United States) on 2002-06-24 21:02 [#00283593]
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at best i think making music should be enjoyable
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pachi
from yo momma (United States) on 2002-06-24 21:03 [#00283595]
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when u go downright experimental things can get interesting =)
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license
from out of nowhere on 2002-06-24 21:05 [#00283599]
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yeah, but you have to keep it listenable (at least by your standards), otherwise you realise you're just making shit that's weird for the sake of being weird and it gets tiresome. boring even.
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pachi
from yo momma (United States) on 2002-06-24 21:07 [#00283601]
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if it pleases u, that's all that matters
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license
from out of nowhere on 2002-06-24 21:09 [#00283603]
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that's what I mean.
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pachi
from yo momma (United States) on 2002-06-24 21:11 [#00283606]
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and when i say experimental i mean that strategically, got as a genre
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pachi
from yo momma (United States) on 2002-06-24 21:12 [#00283607]
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not*
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license
from out of nowhere on 2002-06-24 21:14 [#00283608]
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I know what you meant, and I think experimenting is good and conducive to creativity. but what I meant is that you also have do do things that actually sound good(at least to you) if you want to keep yourself interested. otherwise you feel like you're just churning out weird, useless shit.
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pachi
from yo momma (United States) on 2002-06-24 21:15 [#00283609]
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key word: interesting
=)
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license
from out of nowhere on 2002-06-24 21:24 [#00283618]
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yes. a balance between harmony and dissonance, the familiar and the strange.
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steve mcqueen
from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-25 01:19 [#00283858]
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the only way you will get over 'writers block' is to accept that you will never get over it and you just as well do whatever artistic things turn you on as a laugh anyway. Writers block comes from giving too much of a fuck what other people think - i know it sounds obvious and cliched but the sooner you learn only to do the things you like without mentally prejudging yourself according to what you think others will think of what you are making, the sooner you will get 100% kicks out of 'just doing it'... I know this sounds patronising as fuck man, but I'm sorry, its the way it is. Just go ahead and make shit music or something and classify it as noise ;)
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