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i was thinking about this today at work: on this mb, there are a LOT of very talented and knowledgeable people - musicians, artists, web designers, graphic designers, people who know somethin about the industry.... ...so i was thinking about how a person could function -- and i thought of a new concept for a record label - a "virtual" record label -- ...there are members here from all over the world - and most members probably have at LEAST one small record shop in their town - that's a record shop that COULD be persuaded to try something new once in a while given the right sweet talk... but i'm getting ahead of myself... how would a virtual label work? well, easily - by cutting out the middle men and the profiteers and giving the cash to the artist -- by all of us chipping in voluntarily towards the effort, we could easily get releases out -- and, after the (hopefully) minimal overheads, the profits of any one release would be mostly split between a) the musician(s) b) the cover designer/artist a percentage can be worked out later, and the rest of the details can be worked over, but i think in theory this could easily work. a global record label with minimal outgoings focussing on small record shops and, if we visualise, a good online record shop... anyone who's interested let me know - not only musicians, but artists and especially people who can help with the technical aspects thanx marlowe PS the "knee jerk rekords" is just a pun on rephlex of course, nothing set in stone :) |
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interesting proposition... seems a bit hard and iffy though... |
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Why bother when we've all got soulseek! |
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i'm definately interested, for a while i had my own record label that i'm thinking of bringing back. but yeah, i'm in like a mug. |
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because after hearing that boy whinging yesterday about "professionals", and knowing that there are musicians here who are WELL worthy of being released, and artists who are excellent, and generally people with a good imagination, i thought "well why not organise something ourselves and see if we can't make it work and see our names in record shops", that's why oh, and naturally there would NOT be an anti-mp3 policy! :D Zeus, it's only hard it you look at it all at once -- break things down, and they become simpler - especially with the wide range of skills on this board |
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yeah, you've (we've?) got to cross the bridges when they're arrived at, crossing all of them at once is no way to get ahead |
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But what about "Quality Control" Who would decide what gets released? |
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yeah you should definitley try to do this |
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wait... who was saying what about professionals? who are you refering to? I am interested... im just trying to think it all through... do we have access to a cd press. You cant just take CD-Rs, slap a sticker on em, and sell em... or if you did, it would have to be cheap and what about copyright laws and such? |
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marlowe... are you marlowe_23 on soulseek? |
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Copyright!?!? the shoe is on the other foot allready! |
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Oh yeah, and I'll decide what gets released.. |
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Copyright would be a good thing if anybody would like to use the music in a comercial or something $$$$$$ hehe!! |
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i'm marlowe_23 on soulseek the thing with this record label would be: it's a community -- we make decisions as a community based on different people's expertise &tc -- the copyright issue and the physical production are something i know little about - but there are people who will be more knowledgable about this! :) that's what i mean - individually we are weak, united we are strong :) |
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hee hee... |
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oh yeah so did you dig my music i sent you? |
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United it would be like a playshool argueing over a toy box! Only joking Marlowe, I'm sure this is the way things will evolve... |
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I think it's a great idea, but I think I'm too young to help you |
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I get the community thing, but when it gets down to it I don't know if you can really run any type of organization where a hundred people or more all have the same power with no one being in charge. The closest thing would probably be some sort of democratic management that was elected by the members ever six months or something.. I think the interest is there, so keep the ideas coming. |
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no-one is too young! this would be a great way to gain some experience! :) and as long as I'M around there'll be peace in the valley! :) zeus - those were two excellent tracks -- very nice :) you're signed! :D |
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that's the great thing - this is just a proto-idea really - suggestions are MORE than welcome - they are demanded :) |
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sweet thanks :) |
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I think I'm still a little too insecure about my music |
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well my music has improved a THOUSANDFOLD since i joined the MB - the people are great |
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could you listen to my music? The more reactions, the better |
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yeah of course - are you on soulseek, or do you have URL? i hope jand responds to this -- i would imagine he would have useful info concerning the technical aspect :) |
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Yeah i was thinking that to haha!! Get your ass over here Jand!!! |
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please download the first and the third track, if you still wanna hear more after that, download the second track |
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but uhm the second track isn't finished yet |
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downloading :) |
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great idea! i love it..... without sounding too optomistic... or even niave... it sounds like it might actually work of course we wong be making billions...... but it could work as a small, high quality comunity/label ("Comulabel?" hehe) with all of our resources pooled..... we'd have enough connections to do get shit done! |
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that's the precisely the thinking behind it! :) "if we all pull together as a team!!" :) |
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marlowe, don't expect too much, I've just recently started making lectronic music (for a year now)... And just a few months ago I started making my own samples and creating IDM |
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I would love to make some music for this project but I am far too lazy to do any logistical work. |
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image all the savings..... no rent no advertising no secretaries! no "managers", "agents", etc........ and THAT means: no salaries! (just splitting profits between whoever contributes to projects?) hm...... thats all i can think of right now... but im sure there are more advantages! im sure if u send something to a printing company...... they can burn u a few thousand CDs? its like that bank........ that has no physical locations....... ING direct! "save YOUR money" hehe all of its done over phone, internet.... interest rates a few % higher than others! |
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doh! *imagine! but anyways...... im sure its do-able! and if we just start on a SMALL scale.... w/ a bunch of people helping out..... theres not much to lose, is there? |
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This is insane! This is madness! Have you lost your mind? What are you THINKING? Are you on crack? This just might work... |
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precisely again aminal!! nexus, i've only been concentrating on music since about november of last year :) don't let anyting like time distract you! if your music is good then it's good! |
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have you heard it yet? |
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we could revolutionize the music industry! as long as we do it one small step at a time... dont invest like... fucking $300 000 all at once! know what i mean? there couldn't be much to go wrong... in terms of money anyway especially if (and i think this is what u were suggesting marlowe) its a small special label.... only going to small record stores, a few records..... not millions |
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so come on jay worth!! let this be a kick up your backside to make more of your music!!!! |
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I knew I couldn't resist the pull of this thread for too long....it is something I've been thinking about for a while (more so since seeing this thread)...mainly about a purely digital label/artist collective and how you could get it to work... Seeing as so many people like MP3s & have CD burners anyway if they want a "hard copy", all you'd really need is a website to dl from...this keeps costs very very low...the trouble I've had before when trying to get a CDROM together of artists work is getting the inital money together to produce em, it's still pretty expensive for small amounts; vinyl is pretty similarly expensive...keeping things to MP3s and letting people dl off a website just seems a simpler way to get a project like this off the ground... You could use something like Paypal to accept either donations or payment for dling tracks and perhaps use that money to produce CD compilations of the most popular tracks once it gets going... Fundementally I guess the question is whether you want money involved in the early days...do you offer dl's for free or go for a small charge (say 50p per track)...I've found that when money gets involved in a project like this then it becomes 100x harder to organise... How would you feel about going the MP3 route rather than physically producing CDs?...theres quite a few CDR mini-labels about, that's another option that would be cheap to get going...or a CDROM full of MP3s, that would be an attractive offer (100 tracks or so for £15..)...so many different ways to go... lets ponder some more on this...it's def something I'd like to get involved with... |
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the thing is, there would be room to expand, because of the small record shops - there are so many of them to be warped into submission! :) with some good self-promotion (and there are plenty of people here with good ideas), we could easily become known... ...well im off to bed, so keep this idea running! nite! |
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i dont think trying to make people pay for mp3s would work.... i mean, whens the last time u payed for an mp3? its just that: its not special, like a CD (with CD quality audio) the high quality audio..... and the specialness of actually owning the unique cd.... not just mp3s.... is something people are more willing to pay for imo |
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marlowe, could you tell me what you think of my stuff? |
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yes, grow one small step at a time! |
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I'm so lazy... damn it, I haven't touched Fruityloops in weeks. I really have to get crackin'... There's a place down here called CD Depot, and when I asked the jolly fat guy that works there if he had Aphex Twin or Squarepusher or anything, he said ''nope, but we have local artists making that kind of music'', and he let me hear this demo CD of electronic artists from my area... Who these people are, I have NO fucking idea. I thought I was the only one. :-/ It was damn good, though... I just thought of it now, reminds me of the Aphexation. Also cool that the guy at CD Depot was selling these things. I didn't buy it, I think I bought Axis: Bold as Love that day... Haha... buying CDs... memories... |
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I'd love to be a part of this project. I just hope i'm good enough |
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I'm in if you'll have me, Marlowe. |
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Sounds like a plan! I will join if asked, but beware a record label is just that to my music, a label, my music is open source, free. Now does that mean you can clean rip me off right down to the last fucking note?No. But my music can be distributed on any platform and by any means/medium avalible. |
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