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me and my friend where trying to figure this out last night... how do you perform live electronic music... esspecially something as complex as IDM i mean, i spend hours programming a song... how would i go about acctually performing it live? anyone have any experiance with this? |
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I saw a lot of electronic artists perform,but I never really paid attention to that. Probably because I don't make music myself. As long as the music is good,I don't ask questions. |
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take those songs you spent hours programming (great isn't it?) and spend a few hours more re-exporting them into different layers (tracks?) layer 1 = melodies layer 2 = drums layer 3 = synths...whatever.etc etc then lash the layers into a sequencer with some kind of midi controller (knobs) with different effects being controlled and fire away.......you then amaze you and your freinds with live on-the-fly tweaking of all the layers into one nice big tune. Thats what i'm working on now!! |
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hmmmmm..... so it would be pretty improvisational... cause youd just screw around with the already written track? |
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Burn it on to a CD and mime! |
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This is a tough call, here's some techniques used by other artists: Venetian Snares -- burns his shit to CD and then mixes live with those crazy CD mixers. Afuken -- uses to give his set a more live experience Mouse on Mars -- well they just incorporated live instruments into their set. Pole -- he sets up the beats and then has this tiny little keyboard that he plays live. And that's all I've seen... It's a real problem because quite frankly I don't think electronic music translates very well to the live format. |
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Mouse On Mars definitely know what they are doing on stage, when I saw them they had a live drummer who was singing and then one of them was playing bass guitar and programming a drum machine and a 303 at the same time while the other guy was working the computer and a phatboy that was controlling effects on the drummers voice. Wicked show. When Plaid was here they jsut stood behind their laptops, boring as hell. Barely anyone was dancing cause Plaid didnt even look like they were into it. I thought the mouse on mars guuys were going to bounce off the stage. Its all about energy. |
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play your drum track, you synth track, bass track, then just mess with effects and parameters and change about your sequences some. it's not that hard. |
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yeah but thats boring as hell for anyone watching, you may as well be playing solitaire up there. |
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like it'd be good to have your bass track, but leave that one the same pretty much throughout. have your basic drum track and then a few more rhythms or sounds that you add or take out. usually make an alternate drum track consisting of the same sounds, but organized differently. play with the parameters of those some. then have a few synth tracks, usually one that will repeat for the whole song and like another one that will repeat only once, but will be really long and will go till the end of the song. play with the parameters of those too. it's always good to change up the note order of each track, which is really good for basses. |
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and someone would pay to watch this because.... |
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YEAH THOUGH, TAOIST BLOCKADE, THAS WHY YOU GOTTA JUMP AROUND WHILE WAVING YORE HANDS AND BE ALL LIKE "YEAH, YEAH!" |
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of course that's what all the shit dance acts do. |
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It doesn't look very interesting, and that's one advantage rock has on electronic. Watching videos of live electronic artists is boring, and live RECORDINGS are pretty boring too, unless they play some unreleased track or something. |
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but then again, people shouldn't go to the shows to watch the musician, they should go to listen to the music. most abstract electronic always has interesting visual accompanyments anyway at shows. |
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wtf man, stepping on someones toes are we? Get a grip, nothing but laptops = boring shows, live with it. |
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yes, but they're there to play music, not put on sideshows for the folks. i dont enjoy software for making music or people that use it at shows. i know the shows are boring, i never said they're entertaining. the basis of the show is music. |
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id just load parts of my tracks into some samplers say 4 Akai s2000s that way you could play your samples trigger or hold style and just rework some live synth noodlings over the top! easy! |
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I'd prefer to listen to music in my room, with lots of food within eating distance, and no smelly sweaty people on acid around. That said, I STILL want to see Aphex Live, but I pretty sure I'd be disapointed. |
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ALSO i reckon that the point about most of these dance music gigs (be they idm related or not god i hate that term) is that the music is more for the people and the general atmos! rather than a band or someother ego fronted show! i think that richards music realy says it all he doesnt need to grunt gurn or sing bull shit lyrics at me! it wasnt realy untill about a month ago i heared his voice! (wierd cornish bastard) |
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famous and still sort of not! |
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they're there to entertain people. People who just stand in front of their gear arent entertaining, theyre boring. Showing some sign of life isnt a "sideshow" it "is" the show. If you cant see how the person performing is having a direct impact on how the musicsounds they may as well have pressed play on their discman and walked off stage for a beer to wait for their set to be finished. |
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when i saw squarepusher 'live' ........although it was totally fucking the best shit ever, he was obviously just twiddling knobs which tweaked a ton of parameters on all of his songs. the main thrust of his live performance and what gave it the most energy was him knowing that the crowd was anticipating a certain sound and he'd totally hold it, or stretch it or replace it with something from another dimension. IF YOU GOT TALENT, TWIDDLING ONE KNOB IS AS GOOD AS ANY TRADITIONALI LIVE BAND GUITARY/VOCAL/KEYBOARD STUFF!! |
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