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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-11-03 09:13 [#00931700]
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my personal fav is the second book, the drawing of the three...
VERY surreal, and has a crazy twist at the VERY beginning of the book.
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-11-03 09:14 [#00931701]
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My top three King books are It, then Wizard and Glass, then The Stand.
I've read every single thing's he's released... bit of a King mentalist me.
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-11-03 09:14 [#00931704]
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dave kckean did some amazing illustrations for book 4
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-11-03 09:15 [#00931707]
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*dave mckean
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2003-11-03 09:16 [#00931708]
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I've read It two and a half times actually... It's one of my favorite books in general... I started the stand, but never finished it!
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pantalaimon
from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2003-11-03 09:16 [#00931710]
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great i love dave mckean's art!
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-11-03 09:18 [#00931711]
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I'm so sad I keep a list of King's books with a brief description and rating.
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-11-03 09:18 [#00931712]
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yeah, that book is the most cowboy flick of them all... also has an underlying hamlet-esque witch theme. almost salem-ish.
and flagg form the stand is in the first book.
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-11-03 09:22 [#00931720]
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The problem is you can't just read the Dark Tower books, certain stand alone King books have Dark Tower storylines in them. You also need to read: Insomnia, Everything's Eventual, Hearts In Atlantis and Black House. Plus Salem's Lot and The Stand, but to a lesser extent.
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-11-03 09:25 [#00931724]
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well........
i think you can get away with it.
you might not make ALL the connections, but i read a list... and its NUTS how much they connect to other books.
it really was like EVERY book hes done.
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-11-03 09:28 [#00931728]
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Well... Insomnia introduces the Crimson King, that's gonna be important later. Everything's Eventual introduces Dinky who shows up later, HIA introduces Ted and the whole concept of 'breaking'. Black House is a MUST, it's practically Dark Tower part 4.5. Father Callahan from Salem's Lot is in Calla, how exactly he ended up there I haven't a clue. The Stand would be useful to know more about Flagg too... it really broadens the whole DT universe. You can't really connect the whole lot, although if what King said in a recent interview about what's IN the Tower I may be wrong
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-11-03 09:30 [#00931733]
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dont forget eyes of the dragon, which includes flagg's "origins"
which is VERY much like martin's role in gilead
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-11-03 09:32 [#00931735]
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I hate that book, but true it does refer to the DT. In fact King said the two boys show up later as well, so count that in... also The Talisman and From A Buick Eight can be added as well I guess
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pantalaimon
from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2003-11-03 09:45 [#00931747]
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i thought Stephen King had finnished writing books recently?
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-11-03 09:46 [#00931748]
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the last 3 dark tower books are it.
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mimi
on 2003-11-03 11:15 [#00931881]
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funny thing, the dark tower series have been the only king books i have gotten into...
i remember reading christine and misery in middle school and not being able to wait to be done with them...just didn't like 'em.
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-11-03 11:17 [#00931884]
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Not really two of the best to be honest... in fact Christine is a real dog. Try the books I mentioned if you haven't already as they are DT related but stand alone too, you may get a taste for his writing. Not everyone does.
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-11-03 11:33 [#00931909]
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insomnia is great!
i like the renegades and the other one that ties into it... crap, cant remember the name. pet semetary always bugged me out a little, i liek that one. i like his short stories alot, like skeleton crew and night shift.
but the dark tower has always been the masterpiece to me.
i always wished theyd make a film or videogame out of that thing. id love a good 360 degree view action rpg. it'd be suhweeeeeeeeeet.
i still havent caught bruce campbell's cameo as roland in the majestic.
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pantalaimon
from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2003-11-03 11:36 [#00931918]
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should I get the hardback version of Gunslinger with the drawings?
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-11-03 11:40 [#00931925]
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YES.
the hardbacks are all very nice.
i would highly suggest gettign them all in hardback.
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pantalaimon
from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2003-11-03 11:41 [#00931929]
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i love the cover of the hardback Gunslinger
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-11-03 11:43 [#00931931]
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the artwork in the second book is amazing... very nice almost watercolorish 50's looking illustrations.
and of course, mckean's stuff for wizard and glass rocks.
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-11-03 11:44 [#00931935]
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wait until you read the wasteland, and oyu realise where i got the name "blaine the mono" from.
*laughs evily* hee hee heeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2003-11-04 03:58 [#00933393]
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forget about this dark tower crap, read It instead!! ;)
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-11-04 04:00 [#00933397]
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On the contrary, if you liked 'It' you'll love The Dark Tower :P
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2003-11-04 04:04 [#00933401]
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hehe, yeah I probably would... I'm a big fan of Stephen King, but haven't read enough... my problem though is that I'm currently reading the series that never ends, the Wheel of Time series... I've been reading it for the past three years... I'm almost done book 9, and the damn series still ain't finished... it's massive... already 10 books out, the average length probably around 700 or 800 pages... and I've heard there are 3 more planned... damn it, just end the damn thing... the first 4 or 5 books were amazing... now it's just starting to get rediculous though!
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-11-04 04:08 [#00933405]
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The fact you're reading that series probably holds you in good stead for starting the Tower series, they apparently share some similarities. Also while King has a tendency to overwrite, I generally like his longer stuff a lot more. The Stand, It, Insomnia, W&G... all very long, and definitely my favourites. The Dark Tower series will probably end up with a final length of about 5000 pages.
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-11-04 04:10 [#00933408]
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Here's my list of King releases with rating and estimated page length... for no particular reason other than this is a King thread!
1. Carrie 1974 Novel 215 8/10 2. Salem's Lot 1975 Novel 420 8/10 3. The Shining 1977 Novel 400 6/10 4. Rage 1977 Novel 149 7/10 5. The Stand 1978 Novel 1400 10/10 6. Night Shift 1978 Stories 300 7/10 7. The Dead Zone 1979 Novel 350 9/10 8. The Long Walk 1979 Novel 238 8/10 9. Firestarter 1980 Novel 450 5/10 10. Danse Macabre 1980 Essay 500 8/10 11. Cujo 1981 Novel 300 5/10 12. Roadwork 1981 Novel 265 5/10 13. Different Seasons 1982 Novellas 700 9/10 14. The Dark Tower Part I: The Gunslinger 1982 Novel 215 10/10
15. The Running Man 1982 Novel 205 8/10 16. Christine 1983 Novel 590 6/10 17. Pet Semetary 1983 Novel 350 6/10 18. The Talisman 1984 Novel 750 8/10 19. Thinner 1984 Novel 220 6/10 20. Cycle Of The Werewolf 1985 Short 120 5/10 21. Skeleton Crew 1985 Stories 600 9/10 22. It 1986 Novel 1200 10/10 23. The Eyes Of The Dragon 1987 Novel 400 5/10 24. Misery 1987 Novel 300 7/10 25. The Dark Tower Part II: The Drawing Of The Three 1987 Novel 500 9/10
26. The Tommyknockers 1987 Novel 400 7/10 27. The Dark Half 1989 Novel 300 7/10 28. Four Past Midnight 1990 Novellas 800 8/10 29. The Dark Tower Part III: The Waste Lands 1991 Novel 400 8/10
30. Needful Things 1991 Novel 900 7/10 31. Gerald's Game 1992 Novel 300 7/10 32. Doloros Claiborne 1992 Novel 300 8/10 33. Nightmares And Dreamscapes 1993 Stories 600 8/10 34. Insomnia 1994 Novel 690 9/10 35. Rose Madder 1995 Novel 550 8/10 36. Desperation 1996 Novel 620 5/10 37. The Regulators 1996 Novel 400 7/10 38. The Green Mile 1996 Novel 500 9/10 39. The Dark Tower Part IV: Wizard And Glass 1997 Novel 720 10/10
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-11-04 04:11 [#00933409]
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40. Bag Of Bones 1998 Novel 500 6/10 41. The Girl Who Loved Tom Gordon 1999 Novel 200 7/10 42. Hearts In Atlantis 1999 Novellas 500 8/10 43. The Plant 2000 Novel 300 8/10 44. On Writing 2001 Essay 350 7/10 45. Dreamcatcher 2001 Novel 500 5/10 46. Black House 2001 Novel 400 8/10 47. Everything's Eventual 2002 Stories 300 7/10 48. From A Buick Eight 2002 Novel 300 7/10 49. The Dark Tower Part V: Wolves Of The Calla 2003 Novel ?/10
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2003-11-04 04:17 [#00933413]
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wow, Jarworski is so cool... I want to be like Jarworski! ;)
seriously though, I thought the running man was a short story... and, I personally loved Desperation! :)
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-11-04 04:21 [#00933417]
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Well The Running Man was first published as a novel, it just about makes the required length. It is collected in The Bachman books, and could be described as a novella, but I called it a novel. It's about the same length as Carrie...
I liked Desperation when it came out, I lent it and Regulators off a friend. I re-read it this year when I found a copy in work and I thought it was fucking rubbish!
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2003-11-04 04:24 [#00933420]
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yes, that's where I saw it, in The Bachman Books...
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-11-04 04:29 [#00933421]
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I hope my bastard book arrives tomorrow. I plan on taking Friday off work, sticking SAW II on repeat and reading till I finish!
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2003-11-04 05:01 [#00933448]
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damn... that's crazy... I can only read for maybe two hours at a time...
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pantalaimon
from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2003-11-04 08:28 [#00933621]
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forget the wheel of time, A Song of Ice and Fire by George R R Martin is the best fantasy series... even better than LotR
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pantalaimon
from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2003-11-04 08:31 [#00933626]
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i've never been able to read a whole book in one go, my record is about a third of a book :)
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pantalaimon
from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2003-11-04 08:33 [#00933628]
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i've never been able to read a whole book in one go, my record is about a third of a book :)
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-11-04 08:43 [#00933639]
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i've never been able to read a whole book in one go, my record is about a third of a book :)
just kidding...
i think you'll be VERY pleased with this series, panta.
it's probably my favorite ongoing book series period.
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pantalaimon
from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2003-11-04 08:47 [#00933645]
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i bought Gunslinger today, can't wait to start reading it. I'm half way through Fever Dream by George RR Martin which is really good. Maybe i'll start reading it now but I dont usually read two books at the same time.
Do you ever listen to music whilst reading? Sometimes its good to pick a good ambient type album that fits the mood of a book.
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pantalaimon
from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2003-11-04 08:47 [#00933646]
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phew.. just one post this time :)
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-11-04 08:49 [#00933649]
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Did you get the original or the rewrite?
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-11-04 08:50 [#00933650]
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it's funny that king started the whole dark tower series by writing just the first line in the gunslinger.
everythign unravels form there.
i think music and reading are quite nice together.
for this book, might i suggest something along the lines of rapoon's "fires of the borderlands" or "easterly 6 or 7"
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pantalaimon
from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2003-11-04 08:51 [#00933652]
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the rewrite which I hear flows a lot better
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-11-04 08:53 [#00933654]
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Well he did have substantial help thanks to the poem
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-11-04 08:54 [#00933660]
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It does fit in with the whole series a lot more, unfortunately it looses some of the power that the original held in my opinion. If you're just starting now, rewrite's the way to go, it's a shame he had to change quite so much though.
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2003-11-04 08:57 [#00933663]
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I love the wheel of time series though... the first 4 or 5 books were amazing, and they've gotten a little dragged since, but they're still awesome... I'm just about finished U2 at the End of the World (like the 3rd or 4th time reading it)... lol, I don't know why I read that so much, but it's just so damn good... I just love the unique perspective... it's like being on tour with them...
my record for reading a book fast is reading It in a little over a week...
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pantalaimon
from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2003-11-04 09:07 [#00933674]
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my ex could read a book in a day... crazy.
anyway, you should definately look into the Song of Ice and Fire books if you like epic fantasy... it really is amazing, definately the most gripping books i've read so far.
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pantalaimon
from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2003-11-04 09:07 [#00933676]
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anyway lets see if I can read half a book by tomorrow :)
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-11-04 09:13 [#00933679]
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yeah, it's great how he links stuff together in this series. the poem sounds almost like it was written for the books, it's weird.
panta: trust me, it's hard to put down.
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-11-04 09:46 [#00933708]
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By the way panta, were you happy that His Dark Materials made it into the UK's Top 21 books of all time? I was surprised to see it do so well.
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