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Paco
from Gothenburg (Sweden) on 2002-06-12 05:00 [#00261594]
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See you on the other side. Gotta go to work. Go Sweden!
-P
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Archrival
on 2002-06-12 09:47 [#00261834]
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YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSS!!!!!!
1-1!!
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Phobiazero
from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2002-06-12 09:49 [#00261841]
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amazing!!!!! :-D
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smokehammer
from Saigon (Vietnam) on 2002-06-12 10:05 [#00261853]
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Excellent !
ready 4 a Sweden v Denmark semi-final ? ;D
The top 2 favourites are OUT , France & Argentina... can Italy (3rd favourites) make it a hat-trick ? Lets hope not, I have my filthy money on Trap's boys and their lovely lycra shirts
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-06-12 10:12 [#00261859]
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Bollocks! I wanted Argentina to win the cup, just to piss off the English. Please God let England be knocked out in the next stage.
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Chri5py
from my Solarbear (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-12 10:14 [#00261863]
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What a great victory. Very pleased with Swedens performance!
England had it in their heads that we needed to draw which made the game very edgy IMHO. It could've been disasterous.
Having said that, we played alot better in the second half.
And Seaman? DON'T SCARE US AGAIN LIKE THAT! ;)
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2002-06-12 10:25 [#00261871]
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hey fuck you jonesy -- i get enough of that shit up here in scotland without a seemingly intelligent person like you saying mindless crap like that
--- congratulations sweden - i was hoping that england & sweden would be the two teams to progress ---
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Netlon Sentinel
from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2002-06-12 10:28 [#00261874]
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well england was shite again, except for rio the man. i wonder if they hold up against the danes.
to all the swedes here: congrats!
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-06-12 10:31 [#00261876]
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Chill out dude. Its just doing my head in here for two reasons:
1) I hate football 2) I hate nationalism
Everywhere I look I see the flag of St George. And before you say fuck off back to Wales remember you're in my Celtic brethren's Scotland.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2002-06-12 10:37 [#00261884]
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why would i say fuck off back to wales? there is a difference between hating football and nationalism and saying what you did jonesy -- that was tantamount to racism -- "to piss off the english" charming
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nacmat
on 2002-06-12 10:44 [#00261892]
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why do you bother??? its clear that spain will win
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Archrival
on 2002-06-12 10:48 [#00261895]
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SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDEEEEEEEEEEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
YEAH! IM SO HAPPY! GO SWEDEN!!!!!!!!
Go england!!!
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DirtyPriest
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2002-06-12 10:51 [#00261897]
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Lovely, but still a pity you didnt make it 1-0.
But youve beaten the favourites, and we have beaten the world champions!
THIS CANT GO WRONG!
Oh, and england will get their ass kicked........ ill say.
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-06-12 10:58 [#00261903]
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Its hardly racism. I mean, when have the English ever been the victims of racism; always the perpetrators and never the victim in my book.
Nationalism, racism and football are linked. Look at the far-right football holligans. When England beat Argentina the other day the Sun's headline was 'Up Yours Senors'. This is vile jingoism that has followed from the war with Argentina when the Belgrano sank and the Sun had the headline 'Gotcha'. National football encourages the worst aspects of our culture.
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Chri5py
from my Solarbear (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-12 11:01 [#00261906]
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Piss off back to Wales
:D
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-06-12 11:08 [#00261917]
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I will be in exactly three weeks and two days. Grease up the sheep I'm coming home. Ahem.
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nacmat
on 2002-06-12 11:10 [#00261919]
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can anybody explain me what the UK is???
I mean, wales, scotland, ireland england... I think I am missing some, and I dont know exactly the politic reality... dont blame me for my ignorance and please help me so that I am not an ignorant anymore...
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-06-12 11:16 [#00261924]
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The UK is made up of England (boo, hiss), Wales, Scotland and northern Ireland. Why don't we have southern Ireland also? Well they won their independence. Northern Ireland is still occuppied by the colonial oppressors England, hence the problems there. Its quite similar to your country and the Basque region.
The 'Celts' (Welsh, Scottish & Irish) have a common hatred of the English. Mainly for their arrogance. The rivalry between us and the English manifests itself in sports, especially rugby.
There was something on the radio the other day where they asked people from various countries around the world why they all supported the team playing against England and they all replied "because they occupied our country". Says it all really.
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Chri5py
from my Solarbear (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-12 11:27 [#00261933]
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But obviously you love me coz I personally didn't invade your country. You can can chose your friends but you can't choose your family!
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-06-12 11:36 [#00261945]
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I'll let you off. You didn't invade my country BTW. That was Ireland and India and Hong Kong and various parts of Africa and...
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Chri5py
from my Solarbear (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-12 11:47 [#00261958]
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We gave most of it back tho. Choice or no choice.
dumbasses. tut
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-06-12 11:53 [#00261965]
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Aye, only after the hammering we took during WWII. I don't mean you BTW, I refer to the British state. You're just a poor fieldmouse from the Cotswolds.
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Chri5py
from my Solarbear (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-12 11:54 [#00261966]
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Damn straight. You bring the sheep and I'm my own father.
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nacmat
on 2002-06-12 12:06 [#00261980]
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1- the basque region was never independent, it was the croen of navarra, but as catalunya, aragon, valencia... that was 600 years ago and they are spain since 500 years ago... and neither valencia, aragon or catalunya kill people as ETA....
ireland has always been another country and they were invaded... its not the same problem at all... spain never invade the basque region...
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nacmat
on 2002-06-12 12:07 [#00261981]
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norht ireland is an independent country? or is it england? if it is UK... why do they have a national team?
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Phobiazero
from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2002-06-12 12:10 [#00261983]
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What have this to do with "Sweden vs Argentina"?
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-06-12 12:16 [#00261984]
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Sorry Nacmat. All I meant was that both sections of Northern Ireland (part of the UK, not independent) and the Basque region want independence. I'm really ignorant about Spanish history (and British too really).
We have a monument in Cardiff for those volunteers who went to Spain on '36 to fight for the International Brigades. Its not really relevant but I find that part of history fascinating.
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Archrival
on 2002-06-12 13:04 [#00262026]
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JONESY: the Sun!? Quoting the sun.....Is that how serious your statement was?
Come on, dont be such a wanker
And that avatar u got is disguisting ;)
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Archrival
on 2002-06-12 13:04 [#00262027]
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Sweden will reach the final...remeber my words ;)
Go Sweden (I got the fever)..
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2002-06-12 15:00 [#00262220]
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do not base your perception of england on the goddam SUN please... this arrogance you talk about is non-existent -- how many of the 50 million or so English people have you met? are you so stupid that you will base your perceptions of an entire race on media portrayal, well-publicised minorities, and maybe the contact of some people of that race you have met?
do you think the majority of english give a shit if Wales or Scotland or Northern Ireland disengage themselves from the Union? you think the English see themselves as masters of the so-called "celts"?
what is it with you people who keeping dredging up the past and try to apply it to the present? England and Britain have moved on from the Colonial Mentality, and have no desire to conquer the earth in the name of the Queen... and YES, it is racism when you hate a race... maybe you think, "well it's only the english" exempts you? well, no, it doesn't - i have had to put up with racist shit ever since i moved to scotland -- even hate letters from Settler Watch. the irony is, of course, that my mother is scottish and my father was a gypsy - so i'm only english because i happened to be shit into this world in Wimbledon, London, England.
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-06-12 15:03 [#00262223]
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Hey man, its the biggest selling paper in Britian!
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-06-12 15:09 [#00262229]
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Calm down dude. My girlfriend is English. I have nothing against the English people per se. I do distinguish between the British state and media and the people. I do get sick of seeing the flag of St George every-fucking-where at the moment and the jingoism of the MEDIA.
By the way, this colonialism that is supposedly dead? Well it isn't. British troop sare still in Northern Ireland and it wasn't long ago that they murdered, in cold blood, civilians on a peaceful civil rights march.
I'll give you an example of what I hate:
I'm involved in campaigning against the racist scapegoating of asylum seekers in this country and on Saturday was met with idiots in England shirts coming out with racist diatribes, as well as other equally other bigoted people who were "proud to be English".
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Chri5py
from my Solarbear (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-12 15:31 [#00262257]
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I don't understand this disscussion. You're both being very hipocritical (spelling).
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Sido Dyas
from a computer on 2002-06-12 15:36 [#00262266]
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GO SWEDEN!!!! Im so happy!!!! I have been nervous about this match for a week now!!!! Sweden won the tuffest group!! i can't belive it , im so proud of our teams performance.
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Sido Dyas
from a computer on 2002-06-12 15:37 [#00262271]
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Fuck that discusion!!!!!! Don't spoil this great topic=(
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nacmat
on 2002-06-12 15:39 [#00262275]
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its true: sweden was first in the death group... great done!!
now senegal
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Chri5py
from my Solarbear (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-12 15:49 [#00262282]
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Yea and England were lucky I reckon (but not without some skill). Well played for both teams tho.
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raimons
from Stockholm (Sweden) on 2002-06-12 16:30 [#00262353]
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i love sweden.
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Sido Dyas
from a computer on 2002-06-12 16:31 [#00262356]
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ME TOOOOOO!!!!!
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2002-06-12 16:38 [#00262369]
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most every country in the "civilised" world has braindead brainwashed cretins who are mindlessly nationalistic and animalistic in their display of it -- so you happen to have seen some english versions -- suddenly its "ha! that'll piss off the english!" wtf? the troops backing up america in this global oppression are british troops, not english troops, so why count that in your post? it is the government and corporations who are intent in taking over the world with some bland blueprint (and not only britain business/government), not the people. in scotland, the saltaire is everywhere too -- along with anti-english sentiments -- even on a BBc sports programme -- so are you putting every country with a minority of retarded racist morons is in your blackbook? and is every country that has a stupidly patriotic media (owned by an australian in the SUN's case) in your blackbook? if you have nothing against the english per se, then why the fuck did you say what you originally said?
and why should i calm down - what you said is the kind of moronic racist crap i've had since the world cup began - and whenever england play another team, it's the same then.
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-06-12 16:45 [#00262388]
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I was actually referring to the occupation of northern Ireland, not the current 'War on Terrorism'.
My original comment was a reference to the nationalistic pricks I have since described NOT the English as such. And back over the border here in England there are flags and larger monsters all over the place. For these morons the leap from moronic jingoism to racial hatred is not a great one.
And stop whining about Scottish "racism" against the English. If you were an Afghan refugee in this country at the moment with threats of being deported, locked up, attacked and then see nationalism everywhere it can't be comfortable. I hardly think your situation in Scotland is the same. When have you ever been attacked?
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Phobiazero
from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2002-06-12 16:47 [#00262391]
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...from now on i'll delete off-topic message from this great thread. so don't waste your time writing any...
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Archrival
on 2002-06-12 16:50 [#00262395]
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THIS WORLD CUP REMINDS ME OF THE SUMMER OF 94 ;) hahaha
I got a feeling that Sweden will do it again :) just like 94
the weather is hot everything is nice...
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Phobiazero
from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2002-06-12 16:53 [#00262399]
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yeah - i agree with you, arch.... nice nice nice
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Sido Dyas
from a computer on 2002-06-12 16:56 [#00262404]
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Im starting to get that 94 feeling =)
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Paco
from Gothenburg (Sweden) on 2002-06-12 19:32 [#00262647]
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Hehe did you see Argentina's attempt to send off the waterboy when Caniggia got sent off from the bench! Nice try, the ref had to point Caniggia out :)
I can't believe the referee missed the penalty kick headstart on the scoring guy. BAH!
Felt like a victory anyway. Good game.
-P
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Sido Dyas
from a computer on 2002-06-12 19:38 [#00262661]
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Yeah that was funny. I think the referee was great , very clean match. Only errors was Henkes warning and like you said that penalty headstart.
A referee has so much part of the games outcome. I hope we will get to see more of this guy in the cup.
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