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Does anyone else HATE listening to Autechre with headphones? I can NOT tolerate it. I only like Autechre on LOUD stereos. Why? I have no idea. I don't like headphones in general, but I don't mind them too much. But I can't stand Autechre like that... I'll only do it if forced. Am I fucked up? Err...Let me re-phrase that... I KNOW the answer to that. Is the fact that I hate Autechre on headphones fucked up? Anyone else feel the same way? |
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you just have to be in a serious and resolved state of mind headphones are the best for idm, you definitely get the best feeling of sound trajectory |
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nope, personally i love walking around with phat (i mean big_ass) headphones listening to AFX, Autechre or anything....it´s probably the little place in which i can appreciate the music at its highest.....every bit, every pitch, every tone...... ohh, and don´t worry ophecks, you´re not fucked up.........or.........(are you?) |
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No, it's all on how you are. Personally I get the best listening to music while driving or on the computer. |
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I love AE and headphones.... Wouldn't get to listen to em much without em really...the partner is not a huge fan.... but then again, AE on decent speakers + SubBass unit is sooo very cool as well...the sound is a lot more physical that way... but yeah, I dig headphones...get some cool ones and not the shit little buds that have given me an ear infection (uggg!! SCABBY EARS...you really don't wanna know any more...)...feckring bastrats as we call down the dyslexia institute... |
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I play Autechre at the max volume (to the chagrin of my mom and my neighbours) on my stereo, and it sounds so huge and overwhelming! Much better than headphones. I know I've heard people say, like Titsworth, that headphones are the best for a pure listening experience, but I just can't get into them... Thank god I can play music at enourmous decibel levels and not get in shit... but this heaven won't last forever. :-( |
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i can understand that listening to ae with headphones at home can be a little irritating, but walking the streets of your home town with autechre on ya ears makes ya walk even more.............nutty?! (sorry couldnt think of the right word) |
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if you've got good speakers, bollocks to headphone then. :D |
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Ophecks, do you have good hearing? You might be hearing limitations of the mp3 format in those songs through your headphones. Autechre's music is notorious for not compressing well into mp3. "second bad vilbel" is a good example, mp3s of it sound very different to me than the original CD, even at high quality settings. |
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I always have Autechre or something with me when I make the long, dangerous walk from my bus stop to my house after classes each day, and it's OK, better than nothing... but I'd never use headphones by choice. I'm listening to the Beach Boys with headphones now (don't want to wake my mummy), and it's not as bad... rock and pop sound ok. But Autechre... blah!!!! |
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It's not just MP3, I have LOTS of CDs... Drukqs doesn't sound as awesome on headphones, either. RDJ Album, ditto. The headphones themselves aren't that great, but they're not cheap ass little fuckers, they're half decent Sonys. Yeah, it might be because of the MP3 format, that's all my Autechre... but all the rest of the MP3s are indistinguishable from the real thing for me... I don't have sensitive hearing at all. :-) |
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Second Bad Vilbel's a great example...even the CD version isn't fully faithful; it's "incomplete without surface noise"... |
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I like to listen Ae with my headphones. |
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Ahh your hearing must just suck if you can't tell the mp3/cd diff, mp3 is like a slender crusty turd sliding into my ear. And ae+headphones rules so yeah your just a freak |
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Autechre is better listened to with headphones, too much to hear through normal speakers. and sonys half decent headphones are bollox. maybe the eq on whatever your listening to it through is wrong, too much bass or something ? most mp3s just sound flat too me, and theres little definition in the higher frequences which are removed more the lower quality the mp3s get. |
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That's cause there's quite a sever hi-pass filter taking place... You can set the params to up this filter, I believe...or just use one of the -alt preset or -r3mix presets in Lame that make this less severe... Around >19.5Khz should be ok for most people... check that r3mix.net page for a detailed explanation... |
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I'm the oppposite then, I rarely listen to music without headphones, and I kind of dislike listening to mp3's on my laptop even with my said headphones.. I get a different feeling sitting at a screen with all its distractions as opposed to lying in bed with the lights out with my cd player and headphones. Hrmm.. I USED to listen to some cds without headphones when I had better speakers but no more. *sniff* When I move I'll get better stand alone speakers and will probably alternate. |
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http://listen.to/headph0nes :) |
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One of the lame mp3 encoder developers likes Autechre. I remember him bitching about how Autechre must be making their music difficult to encode on purpose. :) |
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ophecks: i figured out yr problem! if you say rawk and pop slop sound good on yr earphones but electronica doesn't, then you need to invest in some serious phones! what are you using now? you should get a decent pair of digital wide channel phones w/at least a two inch speaker! idm style music is made/mixed on computers while most rawk, with a few exceptions, still use a mixture of digital and analogue. that's why rarwk has a warmer feel than dance based music. for ultimate listening orgasms, pick up the sony djing headphones [can't remember the model #] butthey are the silver ones that come in two models and the larger one has some silly size of a speaker! it's like having two cabinets attached to yr head, but they are ultra light. the experience will change yr life 4evah! and yr mum and neighbours will probably chip in on the cost too! let me know what you think! |
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for me, i prefer listening to idm (especially ae) on good quality headphones. you manage to hear a lot more subtle noises with headphones and can appreciate the music a lot more. ae sounds different/better on headphones. |
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music with headphones will always sound better even with standart headphones. i think you just don't really like autechre. |
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Orphex, AE with headphones isnt a good idea, ur right, what with all the clicking noises they use sometimes hehe. |
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Hhurrrmm... I guess I'm in the minority, by far... I hate headphones! It's so claustrophobic, having the sound shoved so close to your eardrums. The Beatles are another band I hate on headphones, has something to do with the way they mixed the tracks... sometimes you'll have an orchestra mixed totally into the left ear, really distracting... but sounds amazing on speakers. |
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i feel your pain ophecks |
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Orphecs, from what i remember when i was 5 listening to beatles, i realized that Tax Man has vox and music on the opposite pan. |
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um..that's the ONLY way I listen to Ae :) |
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I'm all about headphones. ESPECAILy with Ae |
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I find it easier to pick out all the little parts with headphones. especially panning |
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i love autechre whichever way they come. Headphones allow us mere mortals to experience the sonic space in which these two geniouses exist |
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You have to get a good pair of noise-canceling headphones for IDM...You'll hear lots of stuff you had no idea was there before. |
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for p.:ntil i first heard the seriously underlined and groovy piano loop on the headphones....it was the track cared less for but became my favourite with VL AL 5.... |
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where can i get those? |
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i hear differently for both headphones and speakers. i USUALLY use headphones, but im down with speakers too. i like them both. |
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i didn't really get into confield till i listened on some decent headphones. huge difference. and i'm finding with draft 7.30 that it's almost two different albums, softly on headphones vs bloody loud with headphones. i'm preferring bloody loud at the mo. |
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Supposedly Sennheisers are really good headphones, I have a pair of audiophile type Optimus', they're really my dad's but they're great in the car/doing homework because nobody disturbs my music and vice versa...i look kinda stupid wearing them though, but if it's at home i don't care. |
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be careful in the car though sir.....=) |
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I meant as a passenger. I have yet to learn how to drive, actually...In a week lessons begin, sigh. |
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a couple of weeks ago, i listened to confield on a nice big pair of headphones as i walked along the dorset coast from lulworth cove to durdle door...and i have to say i just put track 1 on and with the blue skies and sun it was lovely, great experience, then put on saw1, but somehow it wouldnt have been the same just sitting out in the sun listening to it on speakers. it was a personal experience, everyone else was there walking along, but only I was listening to this wonderful music. |
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Yeah dave, that's another thing i like about the 'phones...keeps people from talking to you/bothering you when you have your music on. |
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I always use headphones to listen to music... every now and then I'll play my stereo, but mostly my portable cd player and headphones... |
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I STILL hate headphones... I'll only use them as a last resort, and only at night when I can't play everything loud. I think they're obnoxious and selfish, plugging your ear canals with their noise and not allowing anything else in. |
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maybe you hate having something clinging to your head |
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I heard drukqs on 6 KW yesterday, that's much better then a microphone |
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I don't have one single Mp3 on my PC. I absolutely can't stand it - they sound like absolute shit. My buddies think I'm wierd because everything has to be on CD or vinyl. What can I say - my ears are sensitive. Autechre on headphones 100%. Half of the sounds dissapear into thin air as they travel from the speaker to my ear canal - t'is no good. |
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i personally think headphones degrade music a little. they can be decent sometimes, but nothing touches the physicality of a huge bass noise coming out of a sub woofer at really high volumes. nor does anything touch the sound of SAW2 with some natural noise over it, reverberating off of walls. if you have a good set of speakers and a decent reciever/amp, theres not much reason to listen to music on headphones. |
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exactly. headphones are goofy looking, they ruin your hearing (wonder why the sounds "disappear" when going from speakers to some of your ears?) and they plug your ears with only one type of noise. music was meant to be heard in a natural environment, and nothing touches a good stereo system. doesn't matter what type of music it is either. |
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I totally agree. I instead of having everything jammed into two places, I like the sounds to be all around me... acoustics enveloping me in their warmth. Feeling a little rumble on the bass notes from a big bad woofer. Having sound shoved into two little holes just isn't right. |
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I agree with Ophecks here...I've been saying this all along too! I think I know why it is...yes, Autechre have wicked sounds and all, but they don't do much panning, and some tracks sound very mono through headphones...on speakers though (good ones and loud, natch) they rule. |
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I'm sure the tennats living in adjacent apartments would disagree with you. I can see where you are coming fom though. I've always preferred SAW 2 on the stereo. What do you think of Dolby 5.1 and music? I don't have a 5.1 setup - are there even many albums created for 5.1? |
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