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lol the OTHER thing: so ur god is loving and compassionate... but someone else's tells them to fly planes into buildings! so..... doesn't this make something clear? everyone has their own god... their own idea of a god its subjective so then isn't it safe to say that its in ur head? |
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i didnt mean it as an insult/ and nevermind yu guys are right, i am wrong. |
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AMinal: as I tried to say, I don't think any God condones violence over compassion. Am I wrong? Explain if you think so |
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"ExHore, your comments are just the same as a blindly religious person who proclaims "All fags are gunna burn"" yes, your comments are exactly the same ExHore... |
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that's completely right - and it's a good path to choose if you are secure with yourself |
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i agree with homer and the sabre! |
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the Muslim religion is all compassion and love... that is why bashing the religion after September 11 was a stupid thing... it wasn't the religion... they said they did what they did in the name of their religion, but they didn't, because their religion doesn't condone that... it was their own stupidity, and fucked up nature that caused them to do what they did... They claim it's in the name of Islam in order to get the backing of Muslims worldwide... |
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I was about to reply quite harshly Aminal before I read your whole post and when I did I think your point about it being subjective is entirely true. |
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I say, believe what you want, but fuck, don't go bashing other people for their beliefs... ok ExHore... if you're an atheist, fine, that's cool man... but don't go bashing me and other people who believe in God ok? |
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its all perpetuated by a cultural ignorance. |
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wit doesnt have to be humourous please tell me one original concept/idea/viewpoint you put forward in your original post please look up the definition of the word "preach", specifically the first definition in the OED once more, the patronisation (ie: I don't think you know what you are saying, or somewhere from brain to keyboard, the translation is getting lost. ) as i said, i didn't deny you put LOTS of thought into your post, i just don't care if you did - nothing wrong with that is there? and here was have some kind of attempt an insult: "you are having trouble responding to [the topic] in context." umm, no i'm not - please keep the presumption to a minimum |
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i'm not really religious. i've seemed to be getting around fine without it. it's just not straightforward enough for me... however, i still hold no grudge against those who do follow a faith. one of my mottos: WWYD (What Would You Do?) |
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yup, i agree see, it supports my point that people just use religion (in this case islam) to justify their actions.... they twist it to meet their own needs.. even if it is completely against what their religion actually sais |
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Its interesting to see the different levels of war and violence in countries that are generally very religious and countries that tend to be more non religious.(like sweden for example) Did that make sence? |
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it depends on what action they are justifying |
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i thought so |
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wars are always going to be around, if there wasn't religion, people would find another reason |
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marlowe: I'll give you the wit one, though in the dictionary, it does state: "The ability to perceive and express in an ingeniously humorous manner the relationship between seemingly incongruous or disparate things." You are more correct than I am with the definition. In regards to "preach" my results returned "To proclaim or put forth in a sermon: preached the gospel" Now I know I didn't do this. Sometimes we have things in our head and they come out funny on paper, I was having trouble seeing how you were defending your point. I guess you basically (don't mean this as a slight) don't give a shit. That is of course fine, I do believe leaving the thread alone would have been more reasonable and respecful, but again, it's the internet. I maintain your reply wasn't in context, that wasn't a presumption, it was observation. |
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that doesn't account for an evolutionary kickstart, b3n! |
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tru |
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you are right - another way of putting "i don't care" is "i don't give a shit" your definition of preach is from a christian-biased lexicon - i would throw it away if i were you, and buy one less biased |
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some people have faces you just want to hit |
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right, I think those countries would be at war anyways, but they try to justify it now by using religion as the reason... and thus religion gets a bad rap... |
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lexicon, I thought they made effects units!? |
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i returned the definition of preach from "www.dictionary.com" please suggest one that will consistenly return more unbaised and current results |
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yup, ive noticed that too religion makes it easy to control lots of people (this is not an insult to religious people...... but you have to admit, that through history, those in charge used it to control the population) passionate people will do anything to get into heaven... ...thats what happens when u do anything god says (though ur priest or whatever) |
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haha, religon *HAS* done some pretty shitty things in the past.. |
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people will always blame something on something i'm guessing it's just human religion is widely divided among countries -- so that's what's gonna get blamed for war |
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can religion really *DO* something though? or can a person be influenced to do something? |
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yeah, just look at catholicisms influence over the use (or lack of) of contraception in developing countries. |
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oxford english dictionary might suit your needs - but never get information from just the one source! |
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ya, good example |
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Yeah but the more non religious countries tend to be more like "fuck it" and get on with their life. That is just my impression of it all. Of course i am counting USA as a very religious country here. |
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ok - but did catholocism actually do that? or did people not knowing what was good for themselves looking for a solution do that? |
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wait, these people are supposed to be 'good catholics' and followers, doing as the church tells them. You can't say that they are wrong for being religious, yet being catholic has these implications so you have to see it ultimately as the churches responsiblity |
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Speaking of Dictionaries , can someone look up the word Religion ? |
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what? catholocism actually did that they have tried to promote contraception in dangerously over-poplulated and AIDS ridden areas... but then the cathlics tell people not to use them nice way to be compassionate |
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very progressive thinking...... |
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logical progression.. =) sorry, we haven't mentioned music in this thread yet |
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re·li·gion Pronunciation Key (r-ljn) n. 1.Belief in and reverence for a supernatural power or powers regarded as creator and governor of the universe. 2.A personal or institutionalized system grounded in such belief and worship. 3. The life or condition of a person in a religious order. 4. A set of beliefs, values, and practices based on the teachings of a spiritual leader. 5. A cause, principle, or activity pursued with zeal or conscientious devotion. I don't think marlowe will accept these though :), like how I called the simpsons refrence though :D |
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who says they're supposed to be "good cathlolics"? catholocism is an influence of christianity -- its up to people whether or not they want to follow it or not a group of people can not be a religion, a religion is a belief |
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religion is meaningless to me - and now you are regressing! i ask for proof of originality and i get a nice set of dictionary definitions! :D |
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yeah but if people are Catholics the vatican believes they should follow it right. And who are we to say whether catholicism is right or not and whether people should be following it? |
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also, these people might be scared to fuck by the religion that they'll go to hell. doesn't that make it responsible? |
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has this discussion progressed at all yet? |
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thanks. Now i wonder what is the diffrence betwe n being "spiritual" or "religious" ? I am under the impression that being spiritual is better? Atleast it sounds better.... |
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im sorry i dont understand this |
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no that doesn't make it responsible - those people obviosuly have no self esteem nor have they probably read the book their religion is based upon |
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(if they are just dead scared of going to hell) |
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but a lot of these people in developing countries you have to remember are coming from a culture of oppression, they aren't always used to making their own decisions, they are used to having them made for them. |
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