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offline Steamtank from Melancholia Isle (Poland) on 2002-05-22 08:14 [#00229206]
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in his recent interviev he said something about making
music so modern that he don't want to release because of
copying his stuff by another artists. he mentioned "richard
d james" album drill style copying as the example. I am
quiete curious what kind of super modern stuff was he
talking about... (sorry about my poor english)


 

offline REFLEX from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2002-05-22 08:16 [#00229209]
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ah a polack on the board! yes... Iam good friends with 2
polish brothers. jacob [kuba], and bartosz are their names.
which part of poland are you in?


 

offline Steamtank from Melancholia Isle (Poland) on 2002-05-22 08:25 [#00229217]
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I am from the east side- I live near Wroclaw(big city on the
south-east).being a polack is like a demon curse!


 

offline DirtyPriest from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2002-05-22 08:31 [#00229223]
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I think he talks about some new kind of beat or something.


 

offline Steamtank from Melancholia Isle (Poland) on 2002-05-22 08:37 [#00229232]
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what kind of beat? i have no idea what new could he have
invented in this matter? click thing is now pretty obvious
and soon will get obsolete, I think sooner or later there
will be nothing to think out in music...


 

offline jand from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-22 09:02 [#00229263]
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Yeah, that was an intriguing bit of the interview...

I think he does mention one track on Drkqs that is in kinda
new style...can't remember which one tho, check the
interview...But I'd take most of the things he says in
interview with a pinch of salt; so much he has said in the
past was a wind-up or made up on the spot for his own
amusement...

Not so sure about your "sooner or later there will nothing
to think out in music" comment...reminds me a bit of those
"The Novel is Dead" articles that pop up almost weekly
(generally in bulging Book review sections)...

Musics been going a long long time; as old as mankind, I
guess and has grown continually; new forms & structures get
created all the time so I doubt there will ever be a time
when it stops moving forward...

as long as there as humans & our built in desire for
novelty, music/art/whatever will be there alongside us...


 

offline Steamtank from Melancholia Isle (Poland) on 2002-05-22 09:15 [#00229289]
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he said also something about releasing only experiments on
rephlex- so i am looking foward his new stuff (i am afraid
we won't know which one is made by mr james,
vide-astrobotnia). i find electronic hiphop as something
fresh (antipop consortium!!!) but it is using IDM tricks so
it is not something really new. all this click electronica
(mille plateaux) is too experimental and a little bit boring
so when will we be given something amazing and unexpected?!


 

offline PainfulWorm from Sofia (Bulgaria) on 2002-05-22 09:16 [#00229290]
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new kind of beat?
i doubt it's possible
i mean every type of beat is based on some kind of rhythm
and i don't think one can be so inventive to create some
beat never heard before

;)) but i don't agree that nothing can be thought in music
everything new is a forgotten old thing

and is it so bad to be years ahead?


 

offline weatheredstoner from same shit babes. (United States) on 2002-05-22 09:25 [#00229296]
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DAMN YOU RICHARD.

The man will never stop fucking with our heads. Knowing
Rich, he probably wont release all of his songs until after
he's dead. :(


 

offline jand from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-22 09:28 [#00229299]
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Dance music seems to bring forth new genres/beats a lot so
yeah a new kind of beat is always possible...

Look at Jungle a few years back...or Reggae...or UK
Garage... I could go on & on...DrillnBass is another new
rhymical form....they crop up all the time; if they work
then they'll get picked up and developed...

We're lucky, I guess, IDM does a lot of experimenting with
Rhythms/form...so it has a built in cutting-edge where stuff
can develop....



 

offline Steamtank from Melancholia Isle (Poland) on 2002-05-22 09:37 [#00229303]
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Aren't You getting bored with this IDM style? With another
aphex, sqpshr and autechre clones? I think there must be
some kind of stylistic revolution in near future...


 

offline jand from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-22 09:44 [#00229311]
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I bored with IDM cliches, yeah... but the good artists
seldom fall into them...

To me, part of the appeal of this music is that it isn't
trapped stylistically - you can have work as diverse as the
almost not there Panasonic to the massively intricate
Richard Devine to Dancefloot fillers to ambient bells...and
they all fit into the IDM field...

(like many I hate the term IDM altho I don't mind using it
for shorthand sake...I guess I hate it as it implies a
"style" and like I say, their is no "IDM style"...


 

offline Steamtank from Melancholia Isle (Poland) on 2002-05-22 09:48 [#00229317]
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yeah idm term is really stupid- how to put aphex and boc
under one style? it is mad. i like modern electronica
definition more.


 

offline PainfulWorm from Sofia (Bulgaria) on 2002-05-22 09:49 [#00229319]
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ok, different beats & rhythms do exist
but they aren't completely new to this world
of course there are nuances that make them "new"
actually all of them can be easily found in folk music
centuries old


 

offline Steamtank from Melancholia Isle (Poland) on 2002-05-22 09:54 [#00229326]
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maybe not new rhytms but using unexpected sounds as a drum
samples is possible and could be interesting but the rhythm
is not the most important thing- for example boards of
canada have really poor rhythmical side but the rest is
amzingly wonderfull


 

offline PainfulWorm from Sofia (Bulgaria) on 2002-05-22 10:02 [#00229336]
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agree
noise & sound are very bacis and important things for good
electronic misic
beat is somewhat cheap these days ;)


 

offline jand from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-22 10:11 [#00229343]
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I agree (in a way)...there little new under the sun and all
that...but you can't really say everything has been done
before...

I don't believe in Progress but I do believe immensely in
Process...

and if the Process changes then I believe the music changes
as well...

(and Process doesn't only mean method of production..I'm
thinking that the listener plays a huge role in the Process
of music...)..

Some intriguing ideas here...


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-05-22 11:49 [#00229398]
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Yeah, even if we ever reach the point where we'll have
exhausted the possibilites of new genres and experimented to
pure noises/sounds and back, there'll still be the chance of
going back and doing new things with old styles. Classical
Chamber music on a synth, marching band music done on a drum
machine etc.


 

offline jand from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-22 13:16 [#00229583]
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yeah, I was thinking about Marching Band shit this
morning...

So much of it sounds like kina-proto DrillNBass in a
way...all those drum rolls & snare repeats etc....theres def
some sample material crying out for some sampling/cutting
up....



 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-05-22 13:18 [#00229588]
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I've done a track called "bolivian marching band" that does
sound like a marching band.


 

offline Steamtank from Melancholia Isle (Poland) on 2002-05-22 14:05 [#00229635]
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I don't know does processing old styles through electronica
filter gives us a new quality but I find nu-jazz (flanger
maybe amon tobin-jazz'n'bass?) as extremly wicked thing.
electronica will ressurect/is ressurecting obsolete rock/pop
formula, will make hiphop fresher, I hope.


 


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