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It must've been after I logged off. Well, OK, but closing this one really surprised me. We actually were heading in a totally different dirrection at the moment of closing... Woofer: yeah, we who are not native english speakers have to work ten times as hard to be able to communicate with others here. |
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I'm on here everyday and don't argue with anyone. I never throw insults at people and enjoy the spirit of this MB. I discuss ideas with people and have disagreements but I never resort to petty squabbles or childish banter. If you take exception to my posts or threads then that's up to you. Its your MB and what you say goes. I just think you're being a little harsh in comparison to the way some people behave on here. But like I said, you're the boss. |
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so, why don't you create a new thread and discuss the "new direction" in there? no big deal. |
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if you have complainments against other users and their behaviour, then please report this to me in a proper email and we'll go from there. we are having a greylist as well - where annoying users resides. being on that list is not a good thing. the blacklist is where the banned users belongs. |
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wooferattack" thanks.... well I just feel bad cause I killed a poor dog, and my girlfriend was upset about it... ofcouse I was too, but in a different way. |
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Ok, Ok, you have a point here, but still, jonesy does too. There are people acting abusive here and there and it is being tollerated so nobody expected that this thread gets closed. That's all. No big deal. |
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well, too bad it was´nt a freakin cheerleader. |
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please report those annoying users to me and give me examples of their actions. |
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Reminiscent of a situation in school, a really abusive kid used to shout at the teacher and disrupt the class all the time. Because this was "the way he is" the teacher gave up trying to punish him. I was talking (about the work) and I got detention, just because I was a "good kid". Not having a go at you phob, just a lot of people here seem very tolerant of some users just because that are abusive all the time whilst others (who are usually okay) get criticised as soon as they say something controversial... |
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Yeah, read ceri's last post. I am not going to get all crybaby about this. Everyone's entitled to their behaviour as far as I'm concerned and if I have a problem with someone I'll just ignore them/ log off. Alarming you about it would really make me feel like a squealer. I mean, I even wouldn't dare making any assumptions of what you would deem abusive/ annoying behaviour. You call the shots, you make the decisions. But I agree with ceri. Jonesy is a nice person and his arguing is always civilised. It's obvious that he'll be surprised to have a funny, in his opinion, a rather innocent topic closed. |
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Im not sure, but I think its the nature of it all.... the mocking idea of the post? Thats what I thought it was banned for. |
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yes, but by the time it was banned, we were talking about totally different things... |
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Back to the speed limit thing... 100kmh is about 60 or 65 mph. Just in case no one knew already... |
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I usually do abot 70mph on the motorway, so I can't criticise reflex. It's an easy enough mistake to make and to say you should have been paying more attention is a bit silly. Have you ever turned over a tape, talked to a passenger or used a mobile phone whilst driving? Reflex was just unlucky, that's all. |
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ceri: thanks for not callin' me a liar. and I mean.. exactly.. but I was paying attention, it was just bad over all.. timing and curimstances... meho: yeah, I understand, Im just saying thats why I think it was closed, none of my buisness. thats all. Usually I do 140 or so..... so about 85/90mph... but thats usually during the day in when there are no hazards out side of the city on my way to her place..... ive been driving for a LONG time and this is the first time anything really fucked like that has happened, even accidents.... none ever besides this dog problem I had tonight... im a good driver. |
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it's cool, reflex. Peace and stuff... |
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Reflex, I'm sorry about this, but instead of being a hardhead and saying "It wasn't my fault, I'm only telling you this so you can feel sorry for me, my girlfriend and the dog" (loosely paraphrased), try to learn something from it. You should not have answered your phone will driving, if it could have been an emergency hand it to your girlfriend let her answer it. I have a feeling (although I wasn't there) that had you not answered your phone and lit up the ciggerette, there would be one more dog running around. |
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Xanatos: I doubt it.. I really do, I would say it if I could have gone out of the way, but I was going pretty fast {the speed limit there} and there isnt much room on either side of those smaller "biways" or.... subhighways, which is a little shortcut I take to the place she lives out side my city here. it was dark, there wasnt loud music and I light my smoke while looking at the road the whole time paying attention. I lit it and all of a sudden I watched this THING jump right infront of the car, like 2 feet infront of it instantly it was a smack sound..... theres no way I could have moved the car to get out of the way in time. I dont want anyone to feel sorry for me, I already said I dont feel too bad... but I still do feel shitty about it. |
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One thing you can say about reflex is he's not someone looking for sympathy: he'll bitch about feeling like shit and stuff but will not ask you to feel sorry for him. As far as i know... |
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meho: true, when I bitch to people on the net [which is only this site and shizit.net my other quarters...] I dont look for sympathy, thats known off from the start. I just want someone to understand, or share a similar feeling or experiance... thats all. |
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just thought to make things clear. |
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ehm.. not meaning to add salt to the 'wound' but isn't ^THAT sympathy? at the end of the day, the way i see it, its shit for the dog and its owner, and its shit for you and your girl .. |
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In essence, you are right, Korben, that's what sympathy is. But, there's still a fine difference (that anyone as idle as i am is going to split hairs over). Reflex would like to discuss this with us, but he's not asking us to formally abolish his sins, to tell him it wasn't his fault and that we love him. He's not asking for that kind of a absolution ritual: his is more of a purification through collective mourning thing. Anyone thinking this is just madcap rambling is probably right. |
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:) Before i go on .. i'd like to stress that this doesn't really have anything to do with Reflex in person - i'm just taking up meho's (offer?) to split hairs, which i have been known to indulge in from time to time :) .. i don't know that sympathy has anything to do with forgiveness that you hint at? ie. the abolishing of his sins he would like to discuss it and i understand that - i mean, you could apply ad hominen against me quite rightly - i've never been in such or similar situation so i can't really relate .. BUT "I dont look for sympathy, thats known off from the start. I just want someone to understand, or share a similar feeling or experiance... thats all. " sympathy - [loose translation] being simultaneously affected by someone elses experience/emotion etc. doesn't really suggest anything about forgiveness? feel free to call 'argument' or whatever.. i mean, we're getting down to the meaning of words and such ... :) |
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No, no, you are right, that's what I said in the previous post. That's the meaning of the word and reflex put it rather contradictory. But I know what he was trying to express and was to explain that. |
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that's cool .. just couldn't resist seeing his post followed yours that all .. :) |
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i usually fuck up good. |
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eh? |
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oh. i meant your 828 post (i can't follow up posts :( on my computer) re: your previous post 844 - my long reply was aimed directly at that .. about the abolishing sins and that .. sympathy doesn't require that you abolish sins .. i thought pointing out reflexes quote was clear enough .. i don't know. you stated prior to his 830 post that he's not looking for sympathy - and then he goes - yeah i'm not asking for sympathy - all i'm looking for is sympathy (ie inserted from the loose translation) .. but i agree that sharing something is different to looking for sympathy .. but for someone to "understand" - to me anyway .. seems to suggest an element of sympathy. Shit, got to do something bout these split ends |
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yeah, yeah, we more or less agree... I'd say... Anyway, cool that this topic didn't turn into another flaming pit... |
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Trust you two to spend one million posts discussing the definition of sympathy. I despair boys, I really do. Now what do you two make of the existential condition? |
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yeah .. ^ nit picking indeed [for arguments' sake] yeah .. that was quite ugly last time .. had a brief look over - the one with your now famous "enlightenment" quote? hehe .. schopenhauer would be proud - in a loose sense .. |
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existence? Heidegger wrote a load of pages on it. But I have still not read it, I'll catch up with you in about four years. |
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No existentialism. I meant the existential human condition or should that be the existential nature of the human condition? |
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yeah, that "quote" was indeed great, someone even made a topic yesterday called "Enlightment from Meho Krljic". Tough if I'm going to enlighten anybody... But yes, it was a bit of a Schopenhauer/ Nietzsche mixed with zen. My standard issue smartass posturing. |
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the existential condition ? hehe.. i thought that only existed during ww2 :) .. u wanna re-interpret reflex's situation according to sartre's "no excuses" /? hehe .. |
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heidegger .. haven't read much .. some pretty cool thought involved tho ..fucken hard going tho |
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i'm lost now frankly, jonesy. What is it you are trying to ask? My english is not that good to catch all the subtleties of your expression. |
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the way i see the existential condition - tho i'm not sure who's condition you're referring to exactly .. can be quite a useful personal philosophy .. allows you to rationalise a lot of things - and does give you a sense of responsibility .. ie. that's more the normative part that follows from the condition. |
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yeah, he is fucking hard to read. But most hardcore philosophy is very hard to read tome... But I'm trying... |
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UH, I still don't get it... |
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ok i think i might have slightly misinterpreted/misused the term existential condition. existentialism is the philosophy existential condition .. is the world (loosely the picture schopenhauer/nietzsche paints) around us .. dog eat dog .. existentialism stresses the importance of the individual .. eg. Sartre was in a concentration camp during WW2 reading heidegger .. he also saw many people either fight for the resistance, or dob other people in (ie traitors to the french cause). his idea therefore is you can always influence the situation your in .. even if you're chained up in a dungeon - you still have the opportunity to think about it differently .. tho that was one of the criticism .. (can't remember who by) - that it was just bourgeois (sp?) philosophising .. but had little practical value etc.. ?? dunno - getting late .. dunno how well that made sense or not? |
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uhm, OK, I'm underread to talk about this I'm afraid... |
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sweet .. i'm off .. talk to later some time .. i'm under read in the sense that my answers shouldn't be treated too definitively |
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cool, sweet dreams |
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It is careless driving - nothing less! And I can say that, because I have done it myself. Except I didn't kill the dog. So I understand how you feel. I didn't stop though...I saw that the dog 'carried on' walking afterwards. The car behind me stopped. But I did ring the police and report what had happened! I drive much carefully now! |
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too late, Chris. He's offline. |
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70mph IS the speed limit on the motorways here Ceri, so you are not breaking the law! Tut...tut....you can tell your a new driver! ;) |
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Ahhh well! |
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woah... Heavy topic or what? 70mph is the national speed limit on motorways so you're ok Ceri. |
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