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mrgypsum
on 2025-03-01 16:46 [#02641537]
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quoted here "After almost 26 years, I think it's time for WATMM to go offline - the artists we follow aren't releasing as much music as they used to, and overall there has been a decline in new users/activity.
The site supports itself financially via the Google AdSense ads and those who subscribe (and renew), but the vast majority of users are participating at no cost, which I had planned on enforcing at some point but simply haven't had the time or initiative to do so.
Also, I am at the point in my life where even the minimal involvement I have in keeping the site running just isn't something I want to do anymore. I've got other interests and priorities that are my focus, and I want to have one less thing to worry about, even minimally.
I don't think it's realistic to sell or give the site to anyone, and frankly I wouldn't be comfortable with taking WATMM and doing something with it I didn't agree with. And yes, it probably could still run on "autopilot", but someone would still need to be the account holder/billing contact for Invision, AdSense, PayPal, etc.
I've turned off registrations, so nobody won't register and then find out the site is going offline.
As for when - I think ending it when it began on June 3rd would be a nice bookend.
Again, I really appreciate all your support and help over the years, and I hope you understand or at least can appreciate my decision, and ask that you continue to be respectful of the site and your fellow members."
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mrgypsum
on 2025-03-01 16:47 [#02641538]
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end of an era!
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mrgypsum
on 2025-03-01 16:49 [#02641539]
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he has a follow up as well.. i have been lurking here for quite some time.. who keeps this site running??
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2025-03-01 16:49 [#02641540]
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Phobiazero, runs it I'm reliably informed
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2025-03-01 16:50 [#02641541]
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Yeah sad the amount of info that will potentially be lost, hopefully someone's backing it up
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mrgypsum
on 2025-03-01 16:50 [#02641542]
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.... i seem to remember hearing that is not the case as something had happened. but again i dont want to say what i dont actually kknow
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2025-03-01 17:00 [#02641543]
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aha ok, do you mean someones backing up WATMM, or do you mean someone else runs zilty?
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mrgypsum
on 2025-03-01 17:01 [#02641544]
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if its still phobia then i am amazed as i thought something had happened.
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mrgypsum
on 2025-03-01 17:01 [#02641545]
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i guess, i am meaning more of a "keeping the lights on" not necesarily backing it up etc.
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2025-03-01 17:03 [#02641546]
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ah right, i hope Joyrex has just passed it on to someone else or at least keeps the forum archived
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2025-03-01 17:04 [#02641547]
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i think he is seen from time to time on here, i don't think hes dead
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mrgypsum
on 2025-03-01 17:06 [#02641548]
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he did reply to that and i think he wants the watmm name like retired and called something else and he wants the site completely shut down so its really the end of watmm. obviously he cant stop how it continues well at least just the name of whatever replaces it. thats if something replaces it. i have been part of reddit, discord lol it never seems to take off. maybe its just the "forum" aspect itself that lends itself to a better sense of community. idk, but its sad nonetheless.. he does has a point.
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mrgypsum
on 2025-03-01 17:08 [#02641549]
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sorry for not following up directly, maybe i had heard a vicious rumor lol thanks!
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2025-03-01 17:08 [#02641550]
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Yeah retiring the WATMM name and his association with it is fair enough, if someone starts a new forum and migrates all the previous 25 years or whatever of posts that will be the best solution deffo
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2025-03-01 17:08 [#02641551]
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probably a prankster on here, I think Belb would know for sure whats going on if he sees this thread
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belb
from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2025-03-01 18:21 [#02641553]
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i'm, as with most things watmm, and indeed most things, clueless
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2025-03-01 19:03 [#02641554]
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oh sorry i meant about Phobiazero being alive and in charge of this place
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2025-03-01 21:53 [#02641558]
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Someone got contact from Phobz two ish years ago so he’s probably still alive and anyways this site runs off the continuing royalties of “on”, can’t see it ever going away. Richard would want it that way.
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2025-03-01 22:05 [#02641560]
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Perhaps he is like a precognition thingy in Minority Report, on ice and connected to a dialup modem psychically
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2025-03-01 23:45 [#02641561]
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Boing boing boing
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big
from lsg on 2025-03-02 09:47 [#02641573]
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thanks @ joyrex
i agree with hyperflake that it would be good to have the whole thing publically archived. but do they even have the whole archive? is the whole history visible now?
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zazen
on 2025-03-03 14:29 [#02641602]
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Hello, zazen the watmmer here.
The mods from watmm are going to create a 'successor' forum which (after a vote) will be called keyosc
keyosc
Its not quite up yet but I saw a preview and it was an invision-powered forum.
Also people have been scraping the important content from watmm to preserve it so we hope it will be online somewhere at some point
Please come and join us at keyosc though, once its up....
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2025-03-03 14:41 [#02641603]
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Xazen, thanks hope the move goes well, hate to loose decades of good findings
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2025-03-03 16:41 [#02641606]
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I signed up, cheers
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aquagak
from Berlin (Germany) on 2025-03-03 17:02 [#02641610]
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xltronic won in the end, Phobiazero the victor
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2025-03-03 17:07 [#02641611]
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The Tyranny has ended, its like the tower collapsing in the return of the king
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2025-03-04 00:47 [#02641630]
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fuck you https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmcA9LIIXWw
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obara
from Utrecht on 2025-03-04 09:49 [#02641633]
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Apart from the wayback machine - I assume some stuff from watmm is already archived at archive.org ? Wild guess, haven't checked. That's what I would do/do with music stuff I value/don't want to lose.
Ofc nothing is 100% safe in any cloud, as recent hack attack on archive.org proved.
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Roger Wilco
from Mo's Beans on 2025-03-04 10:24 [#02641634]
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IDM Kiosk
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2025-03-04 12:45 [#02641639]
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Is it time to review WATMM? I'd say it was OK.
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