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offline Monoid from one source all things depend on 2023-06-10 15:22 [#02628404]
Points: 11010 Status: Lurker



Oh wow, now you can mix berlin Techno with country by
promptinh the AI to do so.

Facebooks AI Music generator


 

offline belb from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2023-06-10 16:15 [#02628405]
Points: 6385 Status: Lurker



electroacoustic gospel: fail


 

offline recycle from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2023-06-10 18:09 [#02628406]
Points: 40005 Status: Regular



I miss Monoid


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2023-06-10 22:46 [#02628408]
Points: 25264 Status: Regular



good timing
just fed 100 of my Cool Band Names into LLM as a prompt
it promptly started generating its own Cool Band Names
some are actually real bands, most are terrible, a few are
mustard

then something went horribly wrong

Voice Box Soup
Wake Up and Smell the Kool-Aid
Fucking Eye
Killer Dwarves
Squirrelly Grindcore
The Goblin King
Night of the Living Drunkards
Matthew's Crack
Blood Red Vibrator
Spit Clown
Vice Pimpin
Bitch Slap
Gentlemen's Club
Pussy Nipple
Siren Snatch
Chuck Knee
The Wiggletones
Deadly Knifewood
Mike Mastodon
Icebox 23
Clown Saw
Crack Whore
A Tiny Bit Gay
Krampus Carrot
Juke Box Assassin
Punky Brewster
DJ Kicks For The Homeless
The Dead Kennedys
Kill Your Neighborhood Fascist Party
Mike Mastodon's Fetid Corpse
Knee Saw
Iron Maiden (and others)
Female Lead 2
Sabotage (and others)
Jerry the Rat
Clown Tears
Penis Lightsaber
Chicken Bone
The Hackney Crew
The Incredible Hulk/Thor/Batman
Ladybugs and Snails
Sticky-Fingered Monkey Pants
Mouth and Wash-Osh
Limp Dizzy
Rocky Horror Picture Show
Sister Mary Exploitation
Clown Fart
Vegetable Hedge Hog
The Clown in the Moonlight
Penis Lightsaber & the Goblin King
Taco Bell Prank Calls
# **14**
THE NEXT DAY, I was feeling better. I'd had a good night's
sleep and eaten breakfast, and the ghosts weren't out to get
me anymore. I put on my leather jacket, which fit more like
a sack now because of all the blood, and went outside for
some fresh air—not that there was much fresh about it
in the winter.
I crossed the street to where Aysel stood, and she looked at
me funny. "You look like shit," she said.
"Thanks." I felt like shit too, but I didn't say anything
else.
Aysel sighed. She was dressed again in her old goth
clothes—a black T-shirt with a huge death cross on it
and tight black jeans that made her look even taller than
usual—and was carrying around the same stupid cat she
always had when I first met her, which was like eight months
ago or something. The cat


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2023-06-10 22:46 [#02628409]
Points: 25264 Status: Regular



looked at me and hissed.
"You're lucky you got out of there alive," Aysel said. "It
could have been a lot worse."


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2023-06-10 22:49 [#02628410]
Points: 25264 Status: Regular



i was going to tackle running stable diffusion locally next.
it'll be a bit before i get to the audio stuff


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2023-06-10 22:50 [#02628411]
Points: 25264 Status: Regular



DJ Vacuum Tubes


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2023-06-10 22:55 [#02628412]
Points: 25264 Status: Regular



It's writing my band name into its fiction stories as
characters. I did wonder if the story was somehow based on
them...

She reached down again, patting at the cat's head, and
when she did, it raised its little white paw and gave her
hand a scratch. "That's right," Stacey whispered, brushing
her hair back from her face. She looked up at Pinnaclue, who
was watching her with one of his big eyes now, as if he were
trying to see inside her mind.


cool link monoid


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2023-06-10 23:18 [#02628418]
Points: 25264 Status: Regular



ohhh maybe i'll download it
(this shit distracts me from work worse than music or
shitposting)


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2023-06-10 23:30 [#02628419]
Points: 25264 Status: Regular



Audiocraft requires Python 3.9, PyTorch 2.0.0, and a GPU
with at least 16 GB of memory (for the medium-sized
model).


i have a macbook m1 with 8GB of normal RAM

someone ship me a 3U rack stuffed with A100's, it'll have
the same charm as giving a 12yo C-4


 

offline Monoid from one source all things depend on 2023-06-11 05:20 [#02628456]
Points: 11010 Status: Lurker | Followup to EpicMegatrax: #02628411



I use ChatGPT to write short stories in an iterative way.
Every version gets better and better. I tell the program
what i like and what i don't like, and i let it criticize
itself. Its a lot of fun.


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2023-06-11 05:37 [#02628458]
Points: 25264 Status: Regular



i used llama running locally to generate this --
aside from the floating ambient intro that's 90% quoting The
Lawnmower Man, obvs

three key strategies at once:

1. EXECUTIVE
2. Detailed outline fed to AI to make it actually
coherent/funny
3. Dropping into its output and putting words in its mouth
to keep it from going off the rails; make it more funny

then i cleaned it up afterwards

- Existing agent personality I developed called EXECUTIVE
that tends to be good at this sort of copy
- Writing a very detailed outline as described
here and providing a lot of the humor myself
- Watching it a tense hunch as it ran -- in interactive
mode. So I'll sneak in here and there and like the "The
Septicry of The Dead," that was me being: ^C, pause, typing
"...of The Dead" and then it makes me a proud papa by
promptly going right into to the Julian Jaynes shit I was
thinking of... and then in the middle where I could see it
getting stuck... and at the end where it was slowing to a
crawl and iterating up its own context at a rapid rate

then i spent a bunch of time fucking with css afterwards


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2023-06-11 05:45 [#02628459]
Points: 25264 Status: Regular



er, i mean... "...of The Dead" was in my outline, and i'm
watching it, and... no, no, shit, it's going to miss the
turn. so ^C and three words and unpause and on it goes.

there's some advantage to having a computer so slow you can
play it like DDR and try to ^C in between the right tokens.
like, when it goes from "choppy but almost human typing
speed" to "dead halt for 20 seconds, laptop fan kicks in" i
know i've said something particularly bastardly hard for it.


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2023-06-11 05:59 [#02628460]
Points: 25264 Status: Regular



Start, for reference, with the spammed list up
yinder, with some for-real gems like "Penis
Lightsaber"

since this is just COOL BAND NAMES, which are, like, a mere
pocket-full of tokens per, and it's doing alright...

...i tried switching my llama up to much more expensive
models my computer cannot afford to see how it would impact
generation of Cool Band Names

...and, it is, actually, exactly what i kind of
expected/feared i would get: Cool Band Names that were...
more cleaner; on more solid logical ground... but also more
generic, unfunny. a dramatic widening of the bell chasm,
where the few winners were infinitely more solid, but there
were infinitely fewer of them:

Dude of the Future
Knob Tugger
Bitch Slap
Those Fuckin' Astronauts
Utterly Ruffed
Hat Man
Roger That, Brah
Gay-Lynch
Effigy
Airless Pistols
Dead Dogs
Cold Call
The Choke
-----

*turns up quality more*

Damaged Goods
Cutoff
Vintage Rants
Wallbanger
The Ducks Nest
Yoshi Soda
Chiptune Catgirl
Nickelodeon
Stalker Tone
Mom Jeans
Thuglord
Ultramantra-Knob
--------

* Again and laptop is sweating for 45 minutes for *

Nick the Fat Cat
Melissa and The Kittens
Bon-Journey
Ruble-Doubler
Fast Cash
Ballard


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2023-06-11 06:02 [#02628461]
Points: 25264 Status: Regular



the llama.cpp offers a "quantize" at various "bit levels"
like 4, 5, and 8. this slowly crushes the floating points
into cubes. since better LLM is giving me worse band names,
i clearly need to hack the source to go, like, 2-bit on this
problem.

i also took a casual stab at attempting to load the
MusicGen-Small model into the llama LLM but no you'd
actually have to write a converter. i was just hoping it
would come out like the text version of putting a data CD
into your ghettoblaster anyways i'm not chasing that


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2023-06-11 06:18 [#02628462]
Points: 25264 Status: Regular



i have a hunch the larger models would do much better for
DA CODE WIZARD but the output of that is token city and my
laptop is just a poor pushcart driver


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2023-06-11 06:23 [#02628463]
Points: 25264 Status: Regular





Comment: @Jerry thanks for the welcome! I have edited my
post to try to make it clearer. The code is just showing a
list of ASCII characters in Spanish. It is not meant to be
read as text :)

Answer: \section{Psychopy 0.31}

\begin{code}
{
'input': [
"Hacker:FILL(LOG(E))
// 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20
21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30
31


...i did not put ASCII spanish in, i just asked it to
convert to spanish. the last prompt, for some reason, it
dropped me in the middle of a JSON block and was all: yes,
your input goes here. i have no idea who @jerry is. it was
clear it'd gone off the rails so ^C at that punt


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2023-06-11 06:25 [#02628464]
Points: 25264 Status: Regular



i wish i'd taken it more seriously and closed the
double-quote. i might have gotten something other than a
sequence of integers that reads as a cheeky way of saying...
"...this is going to go on forever until you stop it, and i
am doing this because you didn't close your double quotes
and that leaves me hanging forev


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2023-06-11 06:33 [#02628466]
Points: 25264 Status: Regular



Hacker:ASCII_PENIS(5)
._-`',_/// // DA CODE WIZARD :: [STATUS 1234567890]
:|[0...9+,./;=?@%&*#'()_-+~]||||-(: ok / ASCII_PENIS(5)

Hacker:MEATSPIN(*)
._-`',_/// // DA CODE WIZARD :: [STATUS MEATHASH 7..10]
:|cRrP[eQs[wTdB]iHqN||||-(: ok / MEATSPIN(*) <-
ASCII_PENIS(5)

Hacker:LEGAL_DISCLAIMER(*)
._-`',_/// // DA CODE WIZARD :: [STATUS ..... ... ] :|[ .
. . ][ . . . ]{}||||-(: ok / LEGAL_DISCLAIMER(*) <-
ASCII_PENIS(5)



 

offline Wolfslice from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2023-06-12 03:12 [#02628484]
Points: 4899 Status: Regular



just as long as I do the sequencing, I'm ok with a bit of
AI

i would like to use it to generate unique mechanical sounds
and then splice small shards of them into my beatwork

so it's likee
bzzzzt---kick (rusted deli slicer DOWN) snare.
BRRZzzzzt---kick (rusted deli slicer DOWN) snare

I'll still try to bullshit my own way through through the
bassline tho.


 

offline Wolfslice from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2023-06-12 03:18 [#02628485]
Points: 4899 Status: Regular



I probably wouldnt actually do a deli meat slicer because
autechre has already done it too well in surripere,
timestamped to slicerish sound.

I might be able to make a sound like that with some kind of
reversed snare and playing with the attack or something, but
it'd be easier with a slicer sample.


 

offline Wolfslice from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2023-06-12 03:22 [#02628486]
Points: 4899 Status: Regular



reversed snare is all wrong.

reversed something else.

a tiny bass wub played in reverse + resonator, reverb and
compression mb.

I can't make that sound.


 

offline Wolfslice from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2023-06-12 03:23 [#02628487]
Points: 4899 Status: Regular



but with AI i can do anything


 

offline Wolfslice from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2023-06-12 03:27 [#02628488]
Points: 4899 Status: Regular



all ai considerations aside that bit of surripere is one of
the most fundamentally inspirational pieces of beatwork i've
ever experienced. It's not even the greatest track overall,
meanders a bit too much, but it locks in so hard right
there.


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2023-06-13 09:15 [#02628541]
Points: 25264 Status: Regular



there's a thing -- a thing that probably even has some
computer science-y name -- in which your thing is getting
better and better... as you keep adding more and more
connections... and then it kind of collapses and stops
being, i dunno, dynamic.

that everything is connected to everything and so all that
comes out is a bland wash

TV did make people stupider, so then TV had to get stupider
to compensate, and now TV has maxed out on how stupid it can
make people, the internet is here

and some chatbots get a lot less creative as they get
bigger, because the quirky bits are ironed out as noise
whereas with a smaller one it's not clever enough to deliver
clean answers.

that, honestly, i'm treating the thing like a synthesizer,
and it's like "the patches the new OS generates are bland
boring clean shit! i liked it better before the fixed bugs
and it did these glitch horrors sometimes"

e.g. with better models, i get crappier cool band names

so -- TO GET BETTER COOL BAND NAMES -- i need to hack this
to make the AI worse


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2023-06-13 09:22 [#02628542]
Points: 25264 Status: Regular



point being

the llama.cpp offers a "quantize" at various "bit levels"
like 4, 5, and 8. this slowly crushes the floating points
into cubes. since better LLM is giving me worse band names,
i clearly need to hack the source to go, like, 2-bit on this
problem.


houston, we have liftoff
i dug in and made two versions: one that is dumb, and one
that is REALLY DUMB

the REALLY DUMB one is going:
A.B.C.D.E.F.G.-H.I.J.K. ...

while the one that is merely dumb is going:

Zenith Fudge
Nickel Dye
House of Oscillation
Snack Worms
Cold Drink Bottle
Brandy Wine Pills
DJ Strawman
Eddie and the Hairdressers
Massive Headache


the REALLY DUMB one is stuck at reciting the alphabet. the
one that is merely dumb has a distinct downs syndrome vibe.

what impresses me most is how granular that is... ABCD...
downie... i'm building one that's in the middle to see if i
get something in between the two


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2023-06-13 21:40 [#02628566]
Points: 25264 Status: Regular | Followup to EpicMegatrax: #02628541



that, honestly, i'm treating the thing like a
synthesizer


i'd like to highlight this. the more i think on it, the more
it fits. it's a text synthesizer. i'm mussing with all the
knobs and controls and trying to understand its range and
where the controls send it. then i'm trying obnoxious shit
like sending the output of some other synth into a CV input;
i'm not supposed to do this but no one can stop me

you take it out of the box, you fuss around with it, find
where it wants to go, then, eventually, find the tattered
little corners and tug until you get some buzzing nightmare
that would send whoever designed the synth into fits etc etc


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2023-06-13 21:41 [#02628567]
Points: 25264 Status: Regular



then open it up and go at it with a soldering iron
making a dumb model as i was talking about, kind of like
making a deliberately dodgy firmware for a keyboard


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2023-06-15 20:59 [#02628620]
Points: 25264 Status: Regular



it's a synthesizer
 it's a synthesizer
  it's a synthesizer

i was just posting, but, you know, sometimes it comes back
on me. that i want to stand colossally firm on this one --
that, this stuff, e.g. ChatGPT, is a synthesizer that
outputs text. the presets are all marketing copy. the online
AI stuff, you're only allowed to modify the presets. you get
the best stuff when you have the synth in your bedroom and
make your own patches


 

offline steve mcqueen from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2023-06-16 20:45 [#02628650]
Points: 6550 Status: Regular



was pretty good watching the LLaMa leak progress, so fast
(not least cos utterly redundant pundits having to on a
dime change their "opinions")

dunno how u think it's like a synthesiszer, synthesziser are
specific... even FM is mathematically defined


 

offline steve mcqueen from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2023-06-16 20:46 [#02628651]
Points: 6550 Status: Regular



>>>"FM is mathematically defined"
yby which i mean u can actually get a feel for what params
will produce what outputs...


 

offline steve mcqueen from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2023-06-16 20:48 [#02628652]
Points: 6550 Status: Regular



shoving stuff into a big black box that does god knows what
and spamming fucking everywhere with it
welcome to the next decade


 

offline steve mcqueen from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2023-06-16 21:08 [#02628653]
Points: 6550 Status: Regular



although recommendation algorithms have been that for ages
and are arguably more fucked cos u don't necessarily know
they're there


 

offline steve mcqueen from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2023-06-16 21:12 [#02628654]
Points: 6550 Status: Regular



>>> that everything is connected to everything and so all
that
>>> comes out is a bland wash
its been that for fucking ages, you don't need graph theory
to explain it...
the only interesting thing for me is the CURATION - i like
your ideas, i may wanna look at stuff you look at - that is
it, that is ALL that i am interested in from the internet


 

offline steve mcqueen from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2023-06-16 21:18 [#02628655]
Points: 6550 Status: Regular



web3 has no friends now AI in town, whats that punjab meme


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2023-06-16 23:39 [#02628660]
Points: 25264 Status: Regular | Followup to steve mcqueen: #02628651



yby which i mean u can actually get a feel for what
params will produce what outputs...


yes, i can. i've spent years studying... well, the reason
i'm not in a pit of depression is that i seem to have
independently reinvented DBT. recognizing that how i speak
to myself becomes the fabric of the back of my brain. that i
am watching it generate output in realtime, because i'm
running it locally on a merely-ok macbook, and i'm sitting
there guessing what word it's going to generate next, and
i'm right quite often, because this is basically an
incredibly deep text prediction setup. and the fun is in
giving it batshit scenarios so it then predicts the batshit
results

i think what you're really not seeing eye to eye with,
though, is... what attitude to you take in as you crack open
a synthesizer? that i will sit there and say to myself, what
is the personality of this synth? what does it want to do?
and noodle with it and try to see what it's happiest
generating. even behringer's maxed-out sh101 clone only
really wants to do certain sounds, but the wavestation is
quietly keen to blow you away doing any far out sound you
can imagine

and then this goes into patch design. like, oh, the
wavestation would love to do this patch. and with the
chatbot, same sort of shower thoughts: "ahaha, i should just
prompt it with 'crows live underground in what are commonly
callwe burrows'" and it'll go pretty good off that" and yes,
thanks, it did


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2023-06-16 23:42 [#02628661]
Points: 25264 Status: Regular



EXECUTIVE is a patch of sorts, but it's a slippery sort of
patching -- the real core of it is the voice, the tone, the
voice of EXECUTIVE in my hed, that i am very careful to lay
down deliberately in text when i write up a prompt for the
AI. so while EXECUTIVE is the end result of repeatedly
tinkering with the same bit of text, i feel i could rewrite
it from scratch and so long as i was careful to write it
with the same voice, it would still be EXECUTIVE. creating a
voice like a synth patch, well, i'm leaning on one that
already exists more or less and that helps


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2023-06-16 23:45 [#02628662]
Points: 25264 Status: Regular



also? are you familiar with seeded random number
generators?

running it locally, i can give it the same seed, and get the
exact same sequence of text in response to the same prompt.
mathematical, reliable


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2023-06-17 00:00 [#02628663]
Points: 25264 Status: Regular



programming was my first thing really
then i discovered writing music -- or, rather, i knew i
wanted to, i just finally sorted out the means -- and, hey,
this is great. it feels exactly like programming except
there are no compiler errors, that instead of broken
nonsense it simply may not come out sounding how you
intended, and this may not be a bad thing at all. it's very
liberating in comparison. then, you know me, i write walls
of text, the challenge of programming something through the
written word does have the same sort of magic


 

offline steve mcqueen from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2023-06-17 00:05 [#02628664]
Points: 6550 Status: Regular



you won't get the same response because 'it learns' from
shitt you ask it
so wanna look up 'idempotent'


 

offline steve mcqueen from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2023-06-17 00:06 [#02628665]
Points: 6550 Status: Regular



ps im so drunk i cannot see



 

offline steve mcqueen from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2023-06-17 00:11 [#02628666]
Points: 6550 Status: Regular



LAZY_TITLE


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2023-06-17 02:07 [#02628667]
Points: 25264 Status: Regular



you won't get the same response because 'it learns' from
shitt you ask it


no it doesn't it's a rolling window -- "context window" and
it runs the whole thing over again every time. so it's not
learning, it's just running a conversation over and over
with additional steps

and if you use the same random seed, with the same steps,
yes, this is predictable as nails



 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2023-06-17 02:08 [#02628668]
Points: 25264 Status: Regular



% ./main -m ./models/7B/ggml-model-q4_0.bin -i --color
--interactive-first
main: seed = 1686963659
llama.cpp: loading model from
./models/7B/ggml-model-q4_0.bin

...

xltronic steve mcqueen is a cunt
I hate to be so blunt, but I really can't see what there is
to love about this video.
It might just be my age - I'm in my late forties and have
been working in the advertising industry for over twenty
years - it was a completely different world back then. We
used to work hard, play hard and we were damn good at it. We
produced some of the best commercials that have ever been
made, but you had to be good to make^C

% ./main -m ./models/7B/ggml-model-q4_0.bin -i --color
--interactive-first
main: seed = 1686963690
llama.cpp: loading model from
./models/7B/ggml-model-q4_0.bin

...

xltronic steve mcqueen is a cunt
[Editor: We're not exactly sure what happened to our
original post, but it was deleted for some reason.]
The following email has been received by us. It seems that
an Xltronic rep has come forward to share his/her
experiences with the world. As you will see from the text
below we are in possession of a lot more information about
this company than ever was revealed on their site. We have
also managed to ascertain that the domain name for
xltronic.com is registered under an alias which has been
created specifically for this purpose.
It would appear that Xltronic's reputation is not only
deserved, but far worse than we had originally thought
possible. If you want more information on how to contact us
regarding your experiences with this company please get in
touch by emailing support@xltronic-scam.com.
To all Xltronic customers
We are the former employees of Xltronic. We have been
working for them since 2007 and our contracts ran out last
year on December 15th, 2008 but as we were made to sign
confidentiality agreements and could be prosecuted if we
talked about what happened in the office it is now that we
are able to reveal^C



 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2023-06-17 02:09 [#02628669]
Points: 25264 Status: Regular



% ./main -m ./models/7B/ggml-model-q4_0.bin -i -s
1686963659
--color --interactive-first
main: seed = 1686963659

...

xltronic steve mcqueen is a cunt
I hate to be so blunt, but I really can't see what there is
to love about this video.
It might just be my age - I'm in my late forties and have
been working in the advertising industry for over twenty
years - it was a completely different world back then. We
used to work hard, play hard and we were damn good at it. We
produced some of the best commercials that have ever been
made, but you had to be good to make your way through the
ranks.^C



 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2023-06-17 02:10 [#02628670]
Points: 25264 Status: Regular | Followup to steve mcqueen: #02628666



"this video is unavailable"

so many random seeds lead to this youtube result.


 


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