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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2023-05-07 08:49 [#02627273]
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ijonspeches
from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2023-05-07 09:51 [#02627274]
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i think they should force filmmakers to match the exact percentage of at least 100 of the 2.454.776 minorities on this planet, all complete with their heritage certificates to avoid cultural appropriation and percentages of heritage, sexual orientation and color grade. i know this is quite a task. this could be done though will the installation of a complete and regularly updated database of every persons heritage, sexual orientation etc. so the ai then could calculate the exact amount of combined heritages inside each person and fulfill the perfect quota inside an ensemble.
furthermore should one or more persons in the movie cheat on their heritage certificates the movie shall then be burned and censored and the whole crew be banned from making films ever again.
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ijonspeches
from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2023-05-07 09:57 [#02627275]
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jokes aside, i believe in making the world more inclusive. mankind is still young, we´ll figure it out.
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2023-05-07 11:27 [#02627278]
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he should see a doctor about that
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2023-05-07 11:40 [#02627279]
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personally, i'm eagerly awaiting the math trainwreck that will occur once they surge deep into compliance: well, we have a lot of asians, now, are they now actually, mathematically, over-represented in our movie production, and thus no longer valid currency in our oscar entry? sorry vlad. q. wang, you're fired
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2023-05-07 11:41 [#02627280]
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i think slamming a math quota on it will only get useless meatsacks promoted. incompetence has no skin color
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2023-05-07 11:51 [#02627281]
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i guess. if i had to attempt to be constructive
this is a stick. quotas or else. very awkward for everyone
but perhaps if you were more like "movies that demonstrate an arguable devotion to diversity will be skipped ahead in the queue"
the carrot might be more palatable for all
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2023-05-07 11:53 [#02627282]
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that you'll even get much deeper results if you just leave it all ...ellipses.. movies that demonstrate an arguable devotion to diversity -- how do we do that? and you get people thinking very hard about it, perhaps, instead of handing them a staffing nightmare on wheels
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2023-05-07 11:53 [#02627283]
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but who cares about the oscars anyways even my shit gets more press
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2023-05-07 12:28 [#02627284]
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i mean, that must suck if you're a movie producer. that, oh, this guy i worked with for fifteen years, reliable on the lights, but no other way, i have to replace him to meet the quota. and now i have to start from scratch with someone else. and then, imagine you are HR -- ghastly thot, i know -- for some production and there are 400 people and you have to keep track of everyone's ethnicity so the whole thing doesn't get blammed from the oscars. and gosh that must suck
but yeah. apologize about your requirements, oscars. you've had a change of heart and you want to celebrate diversity via a very real and potent force: the cage-fight for the spotlight. that we'll jump the movies that show a commitment to diversity ahead. and then, sorry, no questions. and leave it vague as to how anyone is to do that and leave them off in a corner to go nuts with anxiety over it and stew up... well, most of the ideas will be shit -- 1/3 of our staff are people we flew in from a war-torn country etc -- but someone will come up with something proper and you slap an especially large ribbon on that. and then there are the rest of the normal awards. and just keep going each year nudging people. the staffing will sort itself out within five years
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Tony Danza
from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2023-05-07 12:34 [#02627285]
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lol
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2023-05-07 13:48 [#02627292]
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lol? ...just lol?
fine. i'll give you a ~just lol~
"back in the day we'd just leave them alone in a room with a palette full of bricks and deal with the last one standing"
i don't think much of hollywood these days
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2023-05-07 13:56 [#02627293]
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"back in the day we'd just leave them alone in a room with a palette full of bricks and deal with the last one standing"
sorry, it wasn't clear -- this was the old system of oscar nominations etc etc
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2023-05-07 13:57 [#02627294]
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oscar the couch
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Tony Danza
from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2023-05-07 14:18 [#02627300]
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*pallet
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2023-05-07 14:23 [#02627301]
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filèt de brik
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2023-05-07 16:08 [#02627307]
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i used to have opinions about this but now i simply stopped being a racist
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2023-05-07 16:11 [#02627308]
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yeah sorry that is a very very bad idea
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belb
from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2023-05-07 16:38 [#02627309]
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huh, but i AM a “sexual orientation: 0.357"
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2023-05-07 16:41 [#02627310]
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i'm not saying put anything to any actual scale. in fact, i've specified: be vague. that, oh...
the old method for oscar nomination is to leave all the contenders locked in a room with a pa- with a metric shit-ton of bricks and the last few standing are the nominees.
the new method is: instead of a pile of bricks, just say "most diverse wins" and they'll promptly clobber each other trying to do it further and deeper
by not specifying it they're not sure how far to go and since you've made it a contest for the shiny spotlight they'll all fear someone else will go further and thus it's much better than a quota because a potent combo of greed and terror will drive some genuine innovation in diversity.
and absolutely no algorithms, no. that there is no actual standard, really -- you're just looking to reward whoever climbed to the top of the pile. and maybe politely not notice the bloody brick they're still clutching
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2023-05-07 16:50 [#02627311]
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This did make me laugh
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2023-05-07 16:54 [#02627312]
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you're just looking to reward whoever climbed to the top of the pile. and maybe politely not notice the bloody brick they're still clutching
i'm pretty sure how this is how it's always worked with the oscars, really. and, like wandering into some shit, old codebase and trying to fix a few bugs... i'm just going to leave this subroutine as it is; use it best i can. because messing with that is full of bees
this is a brutal, backstabbing popularity contest interwoven with billions of dollars of corporate shit. if you want diversity, respect the levers you have available.
i should note i never said i actually wanted to help the oscars
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2023-05-07 16:55 [#02627313]
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thx
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2023-05-07 17:12 [#02627314]
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i suppose my rough plan is: help diversity; destroy the oscars. "most diverse wins" would artistically run the oscars into a corner within a few years. by the time it finally implodes the staffing problem should be fixed. after that you'll need to find another cloying anachronism to cannibalize for nutrients
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2023-05-07 17:36 [#02627315]
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it's kind of like watching a bunch of ants devour a wasp. i have no particular alignment with the ants, but i did quite dislike the wasp
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2023-05-07 17:36 [#02627316]
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e.g. have at it. genuinely
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2023-05-07 17:47 [#02627317]
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if the internet sucks, twitter is dead, streaming video is exploded onto sixty different paid services... will people actually talking about movies with each other in person finally kill the marvel cinematic universe as a cash cow?
that i'm not keith moon, here. i'm entwhistle standing over his shoulder with the matches
that's my opinion; off for lunch
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ijonspeches
from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2023-05-08 07:44 [#02627332]
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it seems out of the question we need quotas at work. equality in daily life is not a given. im not sure quotas in oscar criterias are a necessity. art and entertainment ought to be free.
now with society developing, naturally, oscars adapt to it,
probably due to marketabilty, so its kind of a self regulating thing. it might be a tad clumsy on the way, still could turn out quite well. we´ll see if lawrence fishburn finally gets that trophy and if they send the invitation to the right guy.
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Wolfslice
from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2023-05-08 10:20 [#02627334]
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do you want to win the pokemon championship
because you trained the hardest and made the best bonds with your pokemon
or do you want to win because you are black.
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RussellDust
on 2023-05-10 12:32 [#02627419]
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