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mdv
from Zwolle (Netherlands, The) on 2023-05-01 05:17 [#02627036]
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Hi all,
I discovered a shitload of new Aphex Twin tracks under various aliases!
In total I think probably close to 300 tracks. Extremely extremely lush godlike tracks among them!
Richard D James = Loneist, MintSauceMilitia, Beathaven, Ragi Arinbjornsson.
https://loneist.bandcamp.com/
https://midievil-records.bandcamp.com/
There are Bandcamp pages, Soundcloud pages, Youtube pages etc. Even a related website http://earboners.com/ and a user account 'Flacid' on WATMM.
I have no official confirmation nor any insider info. I happened to stumble upon the first of this music (MintSauceMilitia which was then under the name Alice Piasenn) years ago on Soundcloud after following some breadcrumbs / comments made by a known Aphex Twin soundcloud page. This music was later removed and I recently found it back online on Bandcamp with much more tracks and also the Loneist tracks (one of the older Alice Piasenn tracks was now suddenly a Loneist track).
Shortly after this after following yet more breadcrumbs I found the Beathaven Soundcloud account, liked the music and stumbled upon Midievil-Records Bandcamp. And it was clear to me this is also Richard's doing. First by the music itself and later also by many other hints (names, images, location, etc).
It seems many more Rephlex / Warp artists are on the Midievil IDM compilation btw, and also on some of the releases (not sure who is who).
Sharing this because I think some other people will be as happy as I am discovering this music. Some of it may be his best releases ever for me personally. Having the time of my life :)
Enjoy!
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mdv
from Zwolle (Netherlands, The) on 2023-05-01 05:45 [#02627037]
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Here a few convincing tracks:
MintSauceMilitia: MSM - 7 zith chunk 1a 17​-​16 - ld MSM - 50​-​GR62 (Time shelter for M) [BasementMix]
Loneist: Loneist - Alice Loneist - Night Drive
Beathaven: Beathaven - Bones Beathaven - Plopz Beathaven - The Caretakers House Beathaven - Elm Grove Beathaven - Tilted
SECRET REPHLEX ALBUM: Ragi Arinbjornsson - JoYRIde
And so much more gold amongst the other tracks. It's a dream come true.
User "Flacid" (I think RDJ) has posted to describe some of these tracks as mere quick "jams". Read a similar comment by MintSauceMilitia.
Well I can't be 100% sure all those aliases are 100% Richard or perhaps collaborations. But it's got his sonic signature all over it unlike anything I've ever heard before :)
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2023-05-01 06:08 [#02627039]
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i remember when i thought that steinvord was squarepusher, and it was like: "oh my god, he's off the rails on drugs, this is amazing"
and then it was actually dave monolith off the rails on drugs
i haven't even dug into this, but -- you're aware someone like me might just steal all his words and themes to... hell, making fake afx was a small meme back on myspace
maybe i'll just read it as "this is good have a listen" and we'll see about the rest
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2023-05-01 06:11 [#02627040]
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i guess i'm just saying. it could be dave monolith again
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mdv
from Zwolle (Netherlands, The) on 2023-05-01 06:13 [#02627041]
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Oh that last link should have been: Ragi Arinbjornsson - JoYRIde
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mdv
from Zwolle (Netherlands, The) on 2023-05-01 06:20 [#02627042]
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Yes I'm aware someone might steal all his words and themes. Plenty of attempts have been made and some good ones among them.
But none this damn good. It's innovative. A lot of it I like MORE than the old tracks :)
Yes, many of the tracks are "jams". But nobody else could possibly jam like this.
I've convinced myself. Nobody else told me this was all Aphex, and hell there isn't even a strong link between the Loneist/MSM and Beathaven (only a track on the IDM compilation on Midievil records which is called "Alice's house"). But I've got a good set of ears and they tell me this is the real deal.
Btw, I did send a message to Beathaven stating that I knew the above and got a friendly reply back neither denying nor confirming he's indeed RDJ and no objection to me spreading the word. (hell that may be the only thing that doesn't scream Aphex and Aphex would have surely denied it all lol)
But just listen to the example tracks I posted above and tell me you're not instantly convinced ;)
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2023-05-01 06:22 [#02627044]
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I’m not I am instantly convinced
Afx makes all the techno idm songs Ever made.
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2023-05-01 06:26 [#02627045]
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LAZY_TITLE
track names, hmm. "Mum, I kicked the bucket" ok could be him. Farty Mcbuttchungles? no, minus heuristic points, that sounds far too american for him.
regretamin hole? lol. alright, sure, let's try that one ~
i'm not sure this is afx. i mean, not the syro afx, anyways. because this is like someone ground out a crappy copy of dodeccaheedron on their modular. that first off, i don't ever say, "oh this is a modular jam" as soon as the track starts. then yeah as it progresses drop in those detuned floaties and yeah i dunno. maybe it's a goof-off side project but i don't see him... no, he does reverb better
(In My Cunting Opinion)
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2023-05-01 06:29 [#02627046]
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it does get me thinking about how i could sit down, make a list of some of his best things, then put them all into a stew and release it as an alias. and either people would think i was teh afx, or i would get away with it. but that job pays shit; nah
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mdv
from Zwolle (Netherlands, The) on 2023-05-01 06:35 [#02627047]
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It's just jams. Not elaborate edited tracks. You try thinking up about 300 titles for jams like this ;)
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Wolfslice
from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2023-05-01 06:37 [#02627048]
Points: 4899 Status: Regular | Followup to mdv: #02627037
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I don't know if its afx or not-- or if only some of it is, or whatever,
but I liked everything you just linked a whole lot! These are more than "passable fakes," there is genuine nuance. will definitely be listening to this some more!
thx for the investigative journalism. we heard it here first on xltronic from mdv. WATMM sleuths will try to harvest your efforts in the near future, but the 6 of us still on zilty will always know the truth.
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mdv
from Zwolle (Netherlands, The) on 2023-05-01 06:38 [#02627049]
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And for the Syro / The Tuss afx have a listen to MintSauceMilitia.
That one says "demo's & outtakes" which makes me think there may be an album / EP coming out sometime in the future with tracks in that direction.
Some of these tracks also seem like more than a quick jam to me.
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mdv
from Zwolle (Netherlands, The) on 2023-05-01 06:40 [#02627050]
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Thanks Wolfslice :)
Though if I'm going to be completely transparent... I perhaps kinda uhh posted about it a few days ago in the WATMM facebook group :D
Sorry
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Wolfslice
from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2023-05-01 06:49 [#02627051]
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thankfully the only known cure for a broken heart is several hours of dubious "unheard aphex tracks," so we can work through this betrayal.
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2023-05-01 07:33 [#02627052]
Points: 25264 Status: Regular | Followup to EpicMegatrax: #02627045
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alright. so i went at this like a record store where i'm just letting my dick guide me to The One. and,,, flipflipFlip beathaven, Teh End. and then i'm off squinting at the track names and rating them like a human spam filter as to whether his gingerness would have... that name.
also that album cover.
then "regretamin hole" was a genuine lol of a title, and reasonable plausable, so that's where i put a nickel in and had a listen. and i'll be more detailed
1) my first thot, immediately, no hesitate, "this is a modular jam" and... can't recall having that thot with afx much
2) overall this is a really crappy rip of dodeccaheedron. or something classics-era. but it's a hell of a pull given i haven't listened to that track in ages until just now, and... yeah, sounds like it, yeah
3) i didn't mention it earlier but there are some obviously fumbled fades, and... again, can't recall afx much... you should maybe be accusing me of having made this, perhaps?
4) listen to the reverb in dodeccawahoo and then go listen to regretamin hole once it gets into the detuned dissociative floaties, then go back and listen to both tracks before that, and, how long ago did afx make that, even if he's fucking around his reverb would be better and
5) it collapses on a second play and yeah these are just some drums on a modular he has noah's arc of synth of up there
so 1) is this aphex making something deliberately poop 2) is this someone like deadmau5 trying to see how much money he can make out of fooling afx phanz
3) is this some broke watmm person trying to eke out a ramen budget [think i mentioned this job pays shit?]
4) is this some sort of rorschach fishtank bullshit like the transgender chinese hacker president in mr. robot
5) how is mdv mixed up in all this
but i did just listen to one track.
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mdv
from Zwolle (Netherlands, The) on 2023-05-01 07:51 [#02627061]
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Oh me I'm totally not mixed up in any of this. mdv stands for Marcel de Velde, feel free to google me. I just like music and happened to come across these tracks as I wrote in my first post.
Listen to the tracks I linked to in my second post. And they're just jams. Richard clearly likes to try many different setups, he has so many sounds. Some of the Beathaven tracks are made on for instance a single Elektron Analog Rytm. Hell I don't see anybody else puling such tracks out of that.
Some of them are jams when he's perhaps traveling, chilling on the couch, taking a shit, idunno that's what I imagine.
Still best music out there for me (sure not every track, sometimes a hard turd may fudge a fade I forgive him).
And listen to MinSauceMilitia for instance. That one's the most instant convincing one perhaps. And then you'll realize MintSauceMilitia is the same artist as Loneist, just approaching things a bit differenltly, takes some getting used to.
And then make a selection of your favorite rave tracks from Beathaven and realize only Aphex will make you rave like this like a madman.
That's sort of how it went for me at least..
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2023-05-01 07:53 [#02627062]
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afx?
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mdv
from Zwolle (Netherlands, The) on 2023-05-01 08:32 [#02627063]
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Btw for even more good music. I also found "Pure Land Infinity Reservoir" on the Midievil Records IDM compilation:
PLIR - Woodville Inn Really enjoying his music as well. And while clearly partly inspired by Aphex I don't think it's him ;)
PLIR - Gestalt Window And on SoundCloud: PLIR - Heretic (sounding SAW II inspired) PLIR - Ataraxia (BOC vibe in the distance, liking it more than the last few BOC releases)
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2023-05-01 08:40 [#02627064]
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fake afx song names
ohhh i'll listen to more of this tomorrow. but, so far, i'm not convinced
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Wolfslice
from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2023-05-01 08:50 [#02627065]
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thx again for all this
I'm not *convinced* either but some of it could easily be afx.
it doesn't really matter as long as it's fun to listen to
<3
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Wolfslice
from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2023-05-01 08:51 [#02627066]
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i just want him to make drukQs again.
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2023-05-01 11:47 [#02627068]
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With Epic on this one, deffo not Rich
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2023-05-01 14:50 [#02627072]
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mdv = Richard.
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2023-05-01 16:28 [#02627074]
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all i can say is there's nowhere else on the internet i can go for quality threads like this
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2023-05-01 16:35 [#02627075]
Points: 25264 Status: Regular | Followup to Wolfslice: #02627066
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i just want him to make drukQs again.
i've said the same thing for ages. some of the breaks on syro and on, alright, we're close. the breaks creeping back up from tuss lows... and i've said it for ages. but. i'll just crib from my own previous ramble:
the chemicals comment, it's like -- no, we're not addicts, neither of us, but fuck -- i have to finish this shit. and then obsession takes over
and so when i say i forgive him: i'd never really thought about it before, but i see this same, like.. desperation... in drukqs. and if going back there might kill you, then don't. i think we'd rather have rdj around instead of 2/3 of drukqs 2.0
LAZY_TITLE
a longwinded way of saying "he's not in his 30s anymore if he starts taking that much acid and speed again it'd probably end him" and i get the impression he darn near killed himself for drukqs, that it was exhausting. i imagine even some post-partum depression after release. like: fuck, it's all downhill from here, innit
so another? not sure it's on the cards. but that's ok
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2023-05-01 16:44 [#02627076]
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does this still work? if so, thank kim dotcom
this is my fake autechre exai leak from... whenever it came out. that i was actually very organized about this. i sat down with the track listing and sliced it up into a plan and cranked it out in a very orderly manner in an afternoon. but this also involved, like... i keep waiting for someone to ask: "is that you slamming yourself in the face for two minutes?" after listening to veko slap. that i get a bit eric andre about this shit -- anything for the track. i'd punch myself in the face if i felt it were the only way i could get the right sound. in that sense, i was regretting my plan for the song after about 45 seconds, but i soldiered on.
and i'm not hearing any of this fake afx step up like that yet
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mdv
from Zwolle (Netherlands, The) on 2023-05-01 16:51 [#02627077]
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Look at the image of the MintSauceMilitia release. Clearly Analord & The Tuss hint with the sheep.
MintSauceMilitia sheep image
And listen to a track like this: MintSauceMilitia - 06​-​bamba clat cv mod (Dutty TX) ... That's so clearly next level The Tuss. How could it be anybody else.
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2023-05-01 17:17 [#02627078]
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it's a wonderful painting. reminds me of how many goats i saw on myspace in 2009. exactly the sort of thing one would pick to scream... HEY THIS IS SEKRET AFX
but really: that's a great painting. whoever is behind it
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2023-05-01 17:18 [#02627079]
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mint sauce commonly served with lamb. i mean this is actually heavier than he ever went on the goat thing
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2023-05-01 17:25 [#02627080]
Points: 25264 Status: Regular | Followup to mdv: #02627077
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track like that: not terrible on the ear, but really quite forgettable. pretty much any of the tuss tracks more lush + interesting. i'm not sean booth. i can't hear DAT speed. but to my less refined ears, it's like... these drum sounds aren't horrid but his would be better. this doesn't sound all custom-scale like he does. but mostly it's just alright and doesn't go anywhere
doesn't mean it's not him trying not to sound like him. but play this next to, like, synthacon 9, and... neh.
i have other vague thoughts. like, after a sleep: "regretamin hole" feels like a joke from someone ten or fifteen years younger. but i can't really argue that coherently; just a feeling
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2023-05-01 17:51 [#02627081]
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who was that guy flourescent grey on watmm
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2023-05-01 17:52 [#02627082]
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it's gonna be someone like that. then maybe mdv is rdj and i can see why it'd be pretty funny to get on a forum and very emphatically realize that fake watmm afx is genuwine afx
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2023-05-01 18:16 [#02627085]
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LAZY_TITLE
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2023-05-01 18:30 [#02627086]
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I can't really be arsed going into why I'm certain this isn't Richard suffice to say it just sounds like one of the myriad of unconvincing copycats I've heard over the years, If in some astounding revelation it is Richard he really has dropped a clanger as it doesn't has the subtlety, feeling or technique you hear in his stuff
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2023-05-01 18:35 [#02627087]
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I feel like a prick now, not dissing the music btw just saying I'd bet my bollocks it's not Richard
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mdv
from Zwolle (Netherlands, The) on 2023-05-01 19:07 [#02627091]
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Ah I have the opposite opinion. I'm liking many of these tracks more than official Aphex releases.
Hell I even like the more raw nature of them instead of edited into information overload and mastered into harshness.
They're creative, fun, inspired, musical, tasteful and lush.
I think many of them are genius. This certainly isn't Richard "dropping a clanger" to me, it's a one of a kind master at work having fun, jamming, experimenting, LOVING music and sound.
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2023-05-01 19:17 [#02627092]
Points: 31038 Status: Regular | Followup to mdv: #02627091
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Yeah its just my opinion in the end, so no harm done!
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2023-05-01 19:47 [#02627093]
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sure it's afx 'cos this song very clearly enunciates "Electro. Acoustic. Music" at the start and who else.
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2023-05-01 19:48 [#02627094]
Points: 25264 Status: Regular | Followup to Hyperflake: #02627087
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I feel like a prick now, not dissing the music btw just saying I'd bet my bollocks it's not Richard
i know, i know. when i said the drums sounds weren't terrible, i was being kind. but someone clearly did still try, and... hell, this is feels years after spending so many years just speaking the dangerous truth and suffering the consequences
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2023-05-01 19:51 [#02627095]
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*feels weird after years
it's nice that my brain has started to trash compact entire phrases in a way that actually might read fine if you read it fast, but no, i still just write too much
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2023-05-01 19:55 [#02627096]
Points: 25264 Status: Regular | Followup to mdv: #02627091
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i am still just kind of like... why is this richard? what is the source of your death grip on this particular stripe of reality?
he's been pretty honest about blasting his fap tracks onto soundclot. there are ways you can follow the money, see who gets paid for a track, that's how tuss lead to afx. i admit i never ran it down myself, but if monolith weren't, like, actually david barnard, someone would have posted about it on watmm in histrionics. for a moment i wondered... could he have used a vsynth? maybe i'm an idiot for then thinking i was an idiot for considering that, though. dave was using proper machines or a laptop or both
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2023-05-01 19:59 [#02627097]
Points: 31038 Status: Regular | Followup to EpicMegatrax: #02627094
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agreed, yeah I mean I'd like to think that If it was Richard in the room with me himself I wouldn't be afraid to say to him, well I don't quite think its as good as your previous work. I hate to be disingenuous to myself
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ijonspeches
from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2023-05-01 21:47 [#02627098]
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saw this in the morning, listened to one track only so far. synths sounded a bit like some afx releases without the finish and the magic and the drumwork. still gonna play some more.
"loneist" as a name feels more like a mean pun tbh along with the celt/hobbit font artwork, same goes for the mint sauce. did anyone who is speculating ever write a message to the account?
i mean you may get some answers, or fun riddles ^^ it really seems to me someone is just having fun.
the other day in the car i heard the jodey kendrick jams/unfinished/unreleased/ripoffs/leaks or whatever someone posted on youtube.
always have an open ear for that kind of stuff.
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2023-05-01 22:18 [#02627099]
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if i could ask him something, it'd only be the most important questions, and it wouldn't be anything to do with this. that i don't think anyone has ever asked him what his favorite sound is
personally, mine is... i actually need to pin this down. it's a rocket thing firing out of a launcher and it somehow bridges the gap to a sort of screaming synth noise, like an lfo modifying pitch speed rapidly swept up... original quake would do a close approximation of it sometimes. when things get stuck in corners in that game... has anyone turned that into a plugin?
jodey kendrick, still no idea. that's probably just some random person and not afx either. the production is on par but then you're sitting in the living room while jodey is off making tea and you realize it's a very similar living room but the details are incredibly different, and, sorry, best analogy i have -- this living room is a product of a distinct mind that is not afx
i guess i could search on dogpile or altavista
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2023-05-01 22:23 [#02627100]
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who was "untrkmind" ? i remember finding this on myspace with some charming repeated pattern of mouths or something and i managed to save a few tracks but i didn't really get the good ones
i actually remember it was really odd and the computer wasn't cooperating. i might not have been at baseline
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2023-05-01 22:48 [#02627101]
Points: 25264 Status: Regular | Followup to EpicMegatrax: #02627099
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and, sorry, best analogy i have -- this living room is a product of a distinct mind that is not afx
very intldrable ~ all music is the distinct product of countless personal choices [even if those choices are mechanically carried over via how someone was taught]. was in a phase where i would repeatedly process a segment of audio over and over; strange things started to happen. singing voices literally arose out of the muck, stuff like that. and after a think, the answer was: i am iteratively amplifying something, and that something is myself. it works especially well when you can use hardware like driving a car; so automatic that your mind is free to wander. having that moment where you realize you've just recorded the last two minutes of a track while thinking about what you want for lunch
but once you get that deep in. there's enough of you to recognize. it can go quite odd/awkward, if... well, trent reznor writes up his moody diary entries into nine inch nails songs; guy got me through high school. that i've spent so much time inside his sonic creations, coupled with [in]direct lyrics that are very personal, and it's kind of like... hey, trent old pal. when i open up a new NIN album. how are you today? and he screams fuck in my ear a bit
but he doesn't know me -- i don't think he does, anyways.
aphex is a little more nebulous. but even if the exact nature of the thoughts feel guarded i can feel moods through there in a certain way
then i have this whole thing with words where i can tell 50yo brit is unlikely to name a track "regretamin hole" and even if he did, ~and~ decided it should be a crap rip of dodeccahedron, that, sorry, no, a rabbit can't change its ears; for him to make regretamin hole would be on the level of me declaring my left arm is invalid.
i wonder if sean booth ever thinks about any of this.
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2023-05-01 22:52 [#02627102]
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tldr ~ afx did not make regretamin hole. even as a joke. i say this like samuel alito recently got up and said, "i have a pretty good idea who the leaker is. not enough to name a name, but a pretty damn good idea"
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2023-05-01 23:19 [#02627103]
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i was just thinking: jodey kendrick feels so much like bernard fevre. particularly the latter's strange world album. they are totally separate people, 40 years apart in age, but they'd probably be two peas in a pod
that's a fun idea. i'd never thought to compare people's... fuck, no, not aura. that word is a giant electromagnet for poor logic
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mdv
from Zwolle (Netherlands, The) on 2023-05-02 02:11 [#02627107]
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Hyperflake, you do not come across as a prick :)
Btw, Beathaven agrees with you. He just updated Midievil-Records subtext to "Don't even sound like him." lol
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mdv
from Zwolle (Netherlands, The) on 2023-05-02 02:18 [#02627108]
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As for the Ragi Arinbjornsson tracks. This is a new Universal Indicator!
It's even called "SECRET REPHLEX ALBUM". And to me it has some of the best Universal Indicator tracks to date.
Ragi Arinbjornsson - SECRET REPHLEX ALBUM
Oh btw, it's all "name your price", so that's free if you put in '0'.
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