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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2022-10-23 20:46 [#02621735]
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i could be totally wrong, but my immediate reaction was: this was deliberate theater. they sat him down right next to pooh bear just as the cameras were turned on, then pointedly cut CNN off... as the man who sort of led the more open era of chinese prosperity is made to look like a doddering old fossil -- grabbing for a paper and being swatted away like an insolent child, then kind of forcibly being hauled off like a misbehaving child. x.j.'s message is: this era of china is over; here's what i'm doing to it.
i am no sort of china expert, but everyone's all... what does it mean? was that planned?
just seems obvs to me i guess
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2022-10-23 20:54 [#02621736]
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bizarre spectacle, Xi comes across as a meglomaniac from what I've read about him
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2022-10-23 22:21 [#02621737]
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same as putin but not as old; not as ripe in the melon. the news like, "was this an accident, or is it another demonstration that x.j. is in charge?" and i'm like: you dolts, the slant is like... he already presumes he's in charge. this was not to show he's in charge; this is to say: fuck that era, here's what i think of it, here's what i'm doing to it. and this is censorblammed throughout china, meanwhile -- just for the "west" -- wherever you are, there's always someone more west. but really, for the media. they're arguing what it means, and, idiots, it was a precisely arranged tableau for your edification on how he intends to do things now that he has his third term
mmm, you think he'd be so tacky as to invade taiwan december 7th?
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2022-10-23 22:31 [#02621738]
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putin is starting to get old. that, like, corny as it is, it's almost like a bucket list thing for him, except it's childish insolent rage. that he'd like to take care of while he can still convincingly stage judo matches for PR events, or ride a shirt horseless, or whatever. that also, it's kind of like, way that dude is, once he loses power, vengeance will come out of the woodwork, and someone he sent to the gulag will come back and end him, if he no longer has control... this may or not be true, but i bet you it's what he thinks. perhaps putin invaded ukraine because he was diagnosed with anal cancer or something, and, you know, dictators are children and a childish grab for control. i'm wild into speculation here, though
my point is, x.j.'s combination of A) "wolf-warrior diplomacy" B) savagely gutting the crown jewel's of china's tech industry C) dipshit moronic zero-tolerance covid policy that he's only sticking with because he's too deep in now to admit fault, D) corruption and mismanagement leading to things like hundreds of thousands of people paying for houses and it not being delivered, but they say PAY UP ANYWAYS, E) fucking child ego known as "saving face," which essentially seems to amount to: "how dare the west have a sci-tech hegemony, china is great and you must acknowledge it" -- like, no one else deserves to throw their weight around; they claim that for themselves and anyone who says otherwise is so hugely insulting and you're a spoiled child and fuck off. at least the US is like... we darkly joke about the CIA setting up foreign governments; there's a tacit admission. still crap because US does it anyways, but at least they don't dress it up in cocksucking folderol
but i am not a china expert.
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2022-10-23 22:41 [#02621739]
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Yeah i thought the same think with Putin his autumn years he wants to fulfil his despotic fantasies to the max
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2022-10-24 01:07 [#02621743]
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it's worth noting that the US sci-tech hegemony is not exactly a banger either. but choosing between this and a regime that bans winnie the pooh because their leader is an insecure man-baby... even trump can't do that in the west; stormy hookers all over the airwaves comparing trump's penis to prince toadstool, then later cleverly apologizing for ruining mario kart
i honestly don't see a huge resemblance between x.k. and winnie the pooh. but bastard clearly hasn't heard of the streisand effect; the more you deny the more you're pooh bear
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2022-10-24 01:10 [#02621744]
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Yeah i mean America is fucked up but at least they don't have a million plus people in concentration camps, a cult of personality (outside Trump) and a social credit system (yet)
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2022-10-24 01:15 [#02621745]
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did trump ever respond to the penis, er, form... allegations? i don't think he did; speaks volumes about his
"your face is like winnie the pooh" > winnie the pooh banned
"trump's penis is like prince toadstool" > retweet
neither feels like we wanted the future to feel, but still feels an obvious choice
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2022-10-24 01:17 [#02621746]
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yeah thats freedom which i can totally get behind, if you said in China Xi has a cock like an orange toadstool you'd never be seen again
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2022-10-24 01:19 [#02621747]
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suspect h.j. was planning to protest, officially, formally, politely... somehow... but of course, proper 1984 over there; they knew before he even decided. set him up to let him try and turn it into him a doddering old man, now off to the side of the leader, before being dragged off looking disoriented and... the asians are big on this one... impotent... and yes this was all theater for the west but their language does not even have functional support for "sarcasm" and go figure it's a miss
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2022-10-24 01:22 [#02621748]
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i watched it and it made a cold feeling go down my spine, its that weirdly ruthless and inhuman the way the treat each other, its a system that makes cowards of them all
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2022-10-24 01:23 [#02621749]
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As others have said instantly reminded me of that infamous Sadam video where he purges people in his party
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2022-10-24 01:25 [#02621750]
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what is most fascinating to me -- if i understand correctly -- is how spoken chinese has been incredibly fluid for thousands of years, while written chinese has been incredibly unchanged for thousands of years. that someone could read something from 1000 years ago like a magazine... but talking with someone then? no hope. or even same time, 1000 miles away? no hope
and that's why written language, they did: logistics. inventory and troop movements and whatever, it's all unchanged for thousands of years. and the council, the ten or so dark figures actually in charge, i just read: they do everything in writing. memos are bubbled up from the little people (you can get paid a year's salary or such if one of yours makes it that far!) and then ten people atop write notes in the margins, then pooh bear farts his [dis]approval all over the page, and boom, chinese policy. all in writing.
unlike english, where the letters are based on sounds, chinese is based on characters. there are thousands, and they are all interrelated, and, essentially... forcing you to think in a particular way, i imagine. like 3000 years ago
but maybe having the spoken end remaining fluid... who knows. odd bastards
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2022-10-24 01:31 [#02621751]
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back when they were actually innovators, rather than mere talented exfiltraitors -- i've heard they originally invented written language -- the characters -- for divination, essentially. they would have a question they needed answered, and they would carve the characters into a bone, then leave it in the fire until it exploded. then they'd gauge the pieces to get the answer to their question. this seems nuts until you realize how it almost parallels thought itself: i have a question, i encode it, the brain heats it up until it explodes, it cools down and you process the result; integrate. but i'm no chinese expert
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2022-10-24 01:42 [#02621752]
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I saw a video of someone speaking mandarin last night, all different words with meaning but phonetically so similar its impossible for a none speaker to tell the exact difference, it was like something about a wet lion, its all tonal stuff
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2022-10-24 02:25 [#02621753]
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i was just thinking of the heinlein quote: "an armed society is a polite society"
that you don't even need firearms for this to happen. just twitter
that i find myself at an utterly dire hangup, now: i think, if i am to be consistent, we have to let trump back on twitter. last thing i want, mind you, but...
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2022-10-24 03:00 [#02621757]
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I'd rather everyone had AR-15s than be in a situation like China, as weird as that sounds to hear that think that to myself cos im staunchly antigun but its still preferable to this level of 1984 levels of servile obedience
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2022-11-03 03:35 [#02621952]
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perhaps putin invaded ukraine because he was diagnosed with anal cancer or something, and, you know, dictators are children and a childish grab for control. i'm wild into speculation here, though
that i admit when i'm into speculation, but the speculation does have a vague basis
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ijonspeches
from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2022-11-03 08:00 [#02621959]
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im really worried about the state this country is in. it makes me want to boycot its products and culture. what i find most difficult is how news like that alters the way i look at chinese people in my home town by now. sometimes i wonder if they are rich students by families doing bad stuff over there or if they might be dissidents or in disapproval of their country´s politics having moved away or if they dont care at all and just pursue their lives whatever way they can. i dont know these people and i seemingly never will. about 6 -7 years ago my wifes former house had apartments hosting 2 young chinese couples working at the institute for technology. who were the most shut people i have ever seen. while every other person in that place got into contact with us they barely greeted back, rather looked down when meeting in the staircase and were absolutley impossible to get in conversation with. even when one of them moved from her house into mine, which is a funny coincidence, you couldnt use that to pick up a conversation over.
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ijonspeches
from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2022-11-03 08:11 [#02621960]
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which is kind of sad, cause we were really getting into studying martial arts and qigong. chinese cooking, and Traditional Chinese Medicine, eating at places that serve authentic chinese food, which now closed down. my wife even started learning chinese writing at the time and now works at a tea store.
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ijonspeches
from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2022-11-04 07:49 [#02621998]
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that being said, it always bothers me how the us army presents itself in nba games and broadcasts. honored and advertised as if they´ve never fought an unjust or at least questionable war and never committed any war crimes. and the constant singing of the anthem in non international games. wtf? well at least the followup to one of those ads was an ad by a law firm gathering victims of a health issue in certain us facilities in a law suit against the us army. you´d never see that in russia or china.
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