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online EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2022-10-23 20:46 [#02621735]
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i could be totally wrong, but my immediate reaction was:
this was deliberate theater. they sat him down right next to
pooh bear just as the cameras were turned on, then pointedly
cut CNN off... as the man who sort of led the more open era
of chinese prosperity is made to look like a doddering old
fossil -- grabbing for a paper and being swatted away like
an insolent child, then kind of forcibly being hauled off
like a misbehaving child. x.j.'s message is: this era of
china is over; here's what i'm doing to it.

i am no sort of china expert, but everyone's all... what
does it mean? was that planned?

just seems obvs to me i guess


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2022-10-23 20:54 [#02621736]
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bizarre spectacle, Xi comes across as a meglomaniac from
what I've read about him


 

online EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2022-10-23 22:21 [#02621737]
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same as putin but not as old; not as ripe in the melon. the
news like, "was this an accident, or is it another
demonstration that x.j. is in charge?" and i'm like: you
dolts, the slant is like... he already presumes he's in
charge. this was not to show he's in charge; this is to say:
fuck that era, here's what i think of it, here's what i'm
doing to it. and this is censorblammed throughout china,
meanwhile -- just for the "west" -- wherever you are,
there's always someone more west. but really, for the media.
they're arguing what it means, and, idiots, it was a
precisely arranged tableau for your edification on how he
intends to do things now that he has his third term

mmm, you think he'd be so tacky as to invade taiwan december
7th?


 

online EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2022-10-23 22:31 [#02621738]
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putin is starting to get old. that, like, corny as it is,
it's almost like a bucket list thing for him, except it's
childish insolent rage. that he'd like to take care of while
he can still convincingly stage judo matches for PR events,
or ride a shirt horseless, or whatever. that also, it's kind
of like, way that dude is, once he loses power, vengeance
will come out of the woodwork, and someone he sent to the
gulag will come back and end him, if he no longer has
control... this may or not be true, but i bet you it's what
he thinks. perhaps putin invaded ukraine because he was
diagnosed with anal cancer or something, and, you know,
dictators are children and a childish grab for control. i'm
wild into speculation here, though

my point is, x.j.'s combination of A) "wolf-warrior
diplomacy" B) savagely gutting the crown jewel's of china's
tech industry C) dipshit moronic zero-tolerance covid policy
that he's only sticking with because he's too deep in now to
admit fault, D) corruption and mismanagement leading to
things like hundreds of thousands of people paying for
houses and it not being delivered, but they say PAY UP
ANYWAYS, E) fucking child ego known as "saving face," which
essentially seems to amount to: "how dare the west have a
sci-tech hegemony, china is great and you must acknowledge
it" -- like, no one else deserves to throw their weight
around; they claim that for themselves and anyone who says
otherwise is so hugely insulting and you're a spoiled
child and fuck off. at least the US is like... we darkly
joke about the CIA setting up foreign governments; there's a
tacit admission. still crap because US does it anyways, but
at least they don't dress it up in cocksucking folderol

but i am not a china expert.


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2022-10-23 22:41 [#02621739]
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Yeah i thought the same think with Putin his autumn years he
wants to fulfil his despotic fantasies to the max


 

online EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2022-10-24 01:07 [#02621743]
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it's worth noting that the US sci-tech hegemony is not
exactly a banger either. but choosing between this and a
regime that bans winnie the pooh because their leader is an
insecure man-baby... even trump can't do that in the west;
stormy hookers all over the airwaves comparing trump's penis
to prince toadstool, then later cleverly apologizing for
ruining mario kart

i honestly don't see a huge resemblance between x.k. and
winnie the pooh. but bastard clearly hasn't heard of the
streisand effect; the more you deny the more you're pooh
bear


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2022-10-24 01:10 [#02621744]
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Yeah i mean America is fucked up but at least they don't
have a million plus people in concentration camps, a cult of
personality (outside Trump) and a social credit system (yet)


 

online EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2022-10-24 01:15 [#02621745]
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did trump ever respond to the penis, er, form...
allegations? i don't think he did; speaks volumes about his

"your face is like winnie the pooh" > winnie the pooh
banned
"trump's penis is like prince toadstool" > retweet

neither feels like we wanted the future to feel, but still
feels an obvious choice


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2022-10-24 01:17 [#02621746]
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yeah thats freedom which i can totally get behind, if you
said in China Xi has a cock like an orange toadstool you'd
never be seen again


 

online EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2022-10-24 01:19 [#02621747]
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suspect h.j. was planning to protest, officially,
formally, politely... somehow... but of course, proper 1984
over there; they knew before he even decided. set him up to
let him try and turn it into him a doddering old man, now
off to the side of the leader, before being dragged off
looking disoriented and... the asians are big on this one...
impotent... and yes this was all theater for the west
but their language does not even have functional support for
"sarcasm" and go figure it's a miss


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2022-10-24 01:22 [#02621748]
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i watched it and it made a cold feeling go down my spine,
its that weirdly ruthless and inhuman the way the treat each
other, its a system that makes cowards of them all


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2022-10-24 01:23 [#02621749]
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As others have said instantly reminded me of that infamous
Sadam video where he purges people in his party


 

online EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2022-10-24 01:25 [#02621750]
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what is most fascinating to me -- if i understand correctly
-- is how spoken chinese has been incredibly fluid for
thousands of years, while written chinese has been
incredibly unchanged for thousands of years. that someone
could read something from 1000 years ago like a magazine...
but talking with someone then? no hope. or even same time,
1000 miles away? no hope

and that's why written language, they did: logistics.
inventory and troop movements and whatever, it's all
unchanged for thousands of years. and the council, the ten
or so dark figures actually in charge, i just read: they do
everything in writing. memos are bubbled up from the little
people (you can get paid a year's salary or such if one of
yours makes it that far!) and then ten people atop write
notes in the margins, then pooh bear farts his [dis]approval
all over the page, and boom, chinese policy. all in
writing.

unlike english, where the letters are based on sounds,
chinese is based on characters. there are thousands, and
they are all interrelated, and, essentially... forcing you
to think in a particular way, i imagine. like 3000 years
ago

but maybe having the spoken end remaining fluid... who
knows. odd bastards


 

online EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2022-10-24 01:31 [#02621751]
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back when they were actually innovators, rather than mere
talented exfiltraitors -- i've heard they originally
invented written language -- the characters -- for
divination, essentially. they would have a question they
needed answered, and they would carve the characters into a
bone, then leave it in the fire until it exploded. then
they'd gauge the pieces to get the answer to their question.
this seems nuts until you realize how it almost parallels
thought itself: i have a question, i encode it, the brain
heats it up until it explodes, it cools down and you process
the result; integrate. but i'm no chinese expert


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2022-10-24 01:42 [#02621752]
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I saw a video of someone speaking mandarin last night, all
different words with meaning but phonetically so similar its
impossible for a none speaker to tell the exact difference,
it was like something about a wet lion, its all tonal stuff

LAZY_TITLE


 

online EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2022-10-24 02:25 [#02621753]
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i was just thinking of the heinlein quote: "an armed society
is a polite society"

that you don't even need firearms for this to happen. just
twitter

that i find myself at an utterly dire hangup, now: i think,
if i am to be consistent, we have to let trump back on
twitter. last thing i want, mind you, but...


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2022-10-24 03:00 [#02621757]
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I'd rather everyone had AR-15s than be in a situation like
China, as weird as that sounds to hear that think that to
myself cos im staunchly antigun but its still preferable to
this level of 1984 levels of servile obedience


 

online EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2022-11-03 03:35 [#02621952]
Points: 19897 Status: Addict | Followup to EpicMegatrax: #02621738



perhaps putin invaded ukraine because he was diagnosed
with anal cancer or something, and, you know, dictators are
children and a childish grab for control. i'm wild into
speculation here, though


that i admit when i'm into speculation, but the speculation
does have a vague basis

LAZY_TITLE


 

offline ijonspeches from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2022-11-03 08:00 [#02621959]
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im really worried about the state this country is in. it
makes me want to boycot its products and culture. what i
find most difficult is how news like that alters the way i
look at chinese people in my home town by now. sometimes i
wonder if they are rich students by families doing bad stuff
over there or if they might be dissidents or in disapproval
of their country´s politics having moved away or if they
dont care at all and just pursue their lives whatever way
they can. i dont know these people and i seemingly never
will. about 6 -7 years ago my wifes former house had
apartments hosting 2 young chinese couples working at the
institute for technology. who were the most shut people i
have ever seen. while every other person in that place got
into contact with us they barely greeted back, rather looked
down when meeting in the staircase and were absolutley
impossible to get in conversation with. even when one of
them moved from her house into mine, which is a funny
coincidence, you couldnt use that to pick up a conversation
over.


 

offline ijonspeches from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2022-11-03 08:11 [#02621960]
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which is kind of sad, cause we were really getting into
studying martial arts and qigong. chinese cooking, and
Traditional Chinese Medicine, eating at places that serve
authentic chinese food, which now closed down. my wife even
started learning chinese writing at the time and now works
at a tea store.


 

offline ijonspeches from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2022-11-04 07:49 [#02621998]
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that being said, it always bothers me how the us army
presents itself in nba games and broadcasts. honored and
advertised as if they´ve never fought an unjust or at least
questionable war and never committed any war crimes. and the
constant singing of the anthem in non international games.
wtf? well at least the followup to one of those ads was an
ad by a law firm gathering victims of a health issue in
certain us facilities in a law suit against the us army.
you´d never see that in russia or china.


 


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