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In New Smyrna Beach, on the Atlantic coast, Alice F. Argo kept calling and calling for help when the storm hit. At first, her husband, Jerry W. Argo, was refusing to go to a shelter, and the couple wanted help to get to safer ground across the street. As night fell, Ms. Argo’s calls for assistance grew more frequent and more urgent. Her husband, 67 years old and 250 pounds, had fallen and hit his head, and she could not lift him. A Volusia County dispatcher told Ms. Argo that at least 400 people had called for help and that rescuers would get to the Argos when they could. “You’ve got to do your best to wait it out,” the dispatcher said, according to a 911 recording. Ms. Argo, 72, was insistent. “Well, hurry up!” she said. “If he dies, you’re going to be in trouble!” The county was waiting for special vehicles that could drive through floodwaters, the dispatchers said. Police records show that Ms. Argo called for help a total of 10 times over the course of nearly 12 hours. The last time was at 10:38 p.m. By then, Mr. Argo was already dead. (not actual photo; however i did feel strongly enough to dig through my browser history back to july to find this specific photo; the perfect art for this graf) |
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It's a good thing Ron DeSantis didn't do something like smugly bus of genuinely desperate human beings from a state he had no jurisdiction in to over to "the liberals," e.g. another state he did not have jurisdiction in. Otherwise, sympathy for Florida might be a bit lacking right now |
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Libertarian wonderland |
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That’s what the Floridians say again and again |
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blaming a politician for a category 5 hurricane |
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I'll take Desantis 100000% over biden, harris, newsome, aoc, abrams. Give my bernie or tusli gabbard and I'll vote dem. meanwhile people complaining about the disaster response in FL as some sort of political opportunity (the response was good on both the federal and state levels) are just the most beta |
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desantis bussing migrants from texas (where he has no bidness) to massachusetts (where he has no bidness) and essentially using a bunch of desperate humans as pawns for a smug troll to massage his base. yeah, desantis is fucking human filth. aoc is annoying, but that's the lesser of two etc bernie sanders is important to establish a trajectory to the future, but because of this, he himself won't ever get much of anywhere; he'll just tug at the overton window meanwhile: look at history, you trog, what bush's response to katrina did to his political reputation. just because you think it's stupid -- and perhaps it is stupid -- does not mean it is politically irrelevant. it is very, very fucking relevant. this is a painfully bright moment of public exposure like god burning an ant with a magnifying glass. it's one of those times where "oh, meh, he was alright" is less likely than either "he was crap" or "he could be president" and if you don't see this, then... oh well. |
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beavis-and-a-kennedy-family-member-got-in-a-transporter-acc while i'm here, fuck matt gaetz, that ident motherfucker. but then, also, political realities: you'd think banging underage girls on E would be a death sentence for any congressman, but no, the people that voted for him are more like "YEAH BRO GET IT" i reiterate ~ |
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The migrant bus (plane?) to martha's vinyard is meaningless political theatre to me. He's obviously trying to point out some hypocrisy from these cities with "sanctuary" laws, but it just comes off as somewhat mean spirited and a waste of resources. no real harm came to anybody and it was just dumb. It was a clown move in country of clown politics. But I don't see what that has to do with hurricane ian or his state's response (biden's fema response seemed good as well). It's a major disaster. What I don't abide is the smug, liberal self righteous bs that's penetrated into every ounce of politics. The dems used to be better than this. This crop is thoroughly unelectable. |
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I dont really agree with Bernie's solutions (though he's on the money at pointing out problems), but his authenticity is a dying breed. It's hard to even tell if Desantis is authentic, human wise, but reads as oafish but lacks say Gavin Newsome's slimebag veneer |
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*he reads as oafish |
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in the end I don't like either party, it used to be very easy to vote democrat all the way through Obama's terms. It's shit like this post, and the political hacks spitting the same nonsense on cable news that makes me recoil from party completely. |
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alright, so, rick desantis, shitlord resume: "deliberately lying to a bunch of clueless desperate people and telling them they're going to boston and they'll get jobs and a green card, and then instead smugly dumping them in the middle of some schmaltzy retirement community to create a publicity incident in order to advance his political prospects." not to solve a problem. not to change "the liberals" minds. no, instead, to make a bunch of delusional qAnon followers cream themselves; that's all this was for. so, right, he fucked with a bunch of desperate refugees, not to actually accomplish some sort of change, but to score points; to jerk off his supporters. now extrapolate this to the presidency; what he'd do with it. it'd be worse than chris christie closing a bridge to spite NYC; entire states would get shitlisted. that, frankly, the real danger of desantis is that he is essentially trump, but he has an IQ above room temperature. oh, boo hoo, trump fascism. trump's too shit. too crap. too. fucking. stupid. desantis, though, he has a bit more of a clue and he could genuinely cause more damage than trump did his whole tenure inside of six months, before anyone caught wind of it |
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i guess i will also say, i feel some of the flip side: affirmative action kept me out of a better college, but, vaguely, this is fair, this is alright. but then you're talking about "slavery reparations" and i'm getting reamed by inflation like everyone else and get the fuck out of my pocket you self-righteous cunts so i don't blindly support the AOC thing. but, see my conspiracy theory thread -- biden may be throwing the demo's under the bus for midterms by tanking the economy for the sake of global security; shooting his own political future in the foot because it's the right thing to do, or so he feels. i don't know if he's right, but i appreciate that attitude far more than a freaking shitlord weasel like desantis. no opinion on gavin california. i don't pay attention to that place really |
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politicians are politicians are politicians. there's always an agenda. you just have to learn to spot the ones that are self-promotional weasels (gaetz, desantis, trump, AOC used to be but she seems to have toned it down?) from... really, i feel biden is a disappearing breed, just very boy scout, what's right for america, etc... and, mind you, i'm not saying this always leads to the right decisions... but it beats someone who is simply hell-bent on to promote/enrich themself |
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I do totally understand what you mean in that DeSantis could be politically vindictive in a punitive and childish way, which could cause genuine damage. I'm personally less worried it would go that far, the two examples we have are him cutting Disney's tax exempt status after their empty corporate political proclamations (which I found interesting)--- and then this migrant flight to Martha's Vinyard, which I found lame. I'm not sure what he would do beyond that, but I'm very tired of the direction the progressive arm of democrats (which is now seemingly ALL democrats, post Trump) is currently travelling. I was always comfortable with a moderate dem. What triggered me here, wasn't really that we're probably in different spots along the political continuum, and wasn't anything about DeSantis himself, it was that you linked it to the hurricane. And it wasn't just you, it's like this everywhere on the fucking internet now. I was watching the news and all the disaster relief stuff for awhile, and I was kind of touched at how everyone was coming together and working to fix such a cataclysmic disaster down there. It felt good to see. Every level was working hard, bottom to top. And then reading this, it's like "oh who has sympathy for this douche or his state?" it's like, fuck off. No one was THIS partisan a decade ago and it was a better fucking time, that's for sure. It just seems to come from SUCH a sanctimonious place. It's not good play with people the way DeSantis did. But I do look at it like, ok he wasted their time and the taxpayers money and looked like a fool doing it. On the scale of assfuckings the government (both sides, for sure) provides on a regular basis, I dunno. It just doesn't register for me as much, but all that goes to prove is theres subjectivity here just like anywhere else. |
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The media response, to latch onto it and pound it like Adolf Hitler himself publicly executed the immigrants echoed the whole "kids in cages" bullshit a few years ago. One president builds these rooms, another gets demonized for using them, and a third keeps them around and everyone's strangely mum again, it's almost like there's a flavor of the month to the partisanship, and usually I can tolerate it but tying it into a real disaster where fucking TONS of people lost everything they had including family- none of it rates. I'm just tired of it. |
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"No one was THIS partisan a decade ago and it was a better fucking time, that's for sure. " Scratch that line, now that I'm thinking about it. Because the worst case republicans always were that partisan, throughout my whole life. But the dems were better than that until recently. Not anymore. |
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people in florida have dug in their heels for years, denying climate change existed, then they know it exists but they continue to dig in because they're 250lb and old and their property values are tanking and they can't move. but they made all these fucking decisions; they decided climate change could fuck off for the last 20-30 years and now the rest of the country is going to have to bail them out because all the insurance companies are going bankrupt and many people just have "hurricane" insurance, not "flood" insurance and other shit that goes to the core of what's rotting in america. that if it were just this -- a bunch of pathetic fat old people getting themselves into trouble -- i would just sigh and accept the hit on my tax bill. but florida is a swing state, trump fled to florida, and you know what? i live in massachusetts and he directly came and fucked with my state, and fucking idiots in florida are responsible for electing that rancid butter packet |
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That's going to happen regardless, to every coastal city in the entire world. But yeah I can see you got the same basic bullshit attitude I see everywhere. Like you've done so much for humanity. I don't feel the need to show respect for what you're saying here. |
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i was at the bank and this very well-manicured hair lady was, you know, being kind of deliberately loud about her business, like: "Well I have half a million dollars tied up in this property in Florida but well shoot it seems like a good time to get another and I have a line of credit with you, $200k, what interest rate would I get now, I am curious?" and it's just a bunch of bank tellers and my weird ass as her audience. i'm wearing some techwear pants with lots of pockets and zippers that i have customized with an iron-on tiger patch that's pretty much florida, yep. i'm glad she was flashing about so i could have a laugh at the fact she was sending her wealth to davy jones locker |
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so, summary: - Florida has been denying climate change from the get-go - A lot of Florida is still denying climate change - $$$ profit led to loads of shoddy buildings being constructed; remember that high-rise that just randomly fell down a year or two ago? - All the insurance companies are going bankrupt because Florida is no longer economically viable. There is no "risk management" when you're guaranteed more hurricanes and eroding coasts - Rich idiots are still thinking Florida is cool and buying a second condo there - Fat old people adamant that nothing changes, no, nope, never. The ocean doesn't exist - Florida elected Rick Desantis, the rancid butter packet, and turned him from a small-time con man into another national problem - Donald Trump fled to Florida due to its friendly atmosphere for people like him conclusion: god is punishing florida; pass the popcorn |
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i'd say this is a random memory, but nothing is random -- we made the concept up, to help us manage. randomness doesn't exist. numbers don't either anyways, i recall there was a thing a few years back where some viral twitter meme was like, "post your florida man" and the process was 1) put in your birthday 2) find a florida man story matching, lol 3) tweet it 4) people in pakistan combine your twitter profile with your birthdate and steal your identity they found "florida man" an ideal hook. speaks volumes |
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no offense intended to pakistan. things are rough over there and you have to cut some corners, i guess but florida... desantis... like they've gone full-ostrich, head-buried so hard, then hatched an ostrich baby that's creating a gravitational suck that pulls eververyone's heads down into... nevermind; this metaphor is crap |
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putting it on all florida is retarded and just a manifestation of your political bias. There is nothing florida can do stop climate change. It's coming and it's going to hit everywhere. No matter how many draconian, authoritarian regulations you put on the people, the costal cities everywhere will falter. It's easy to be smug in massachusetts with your venti vanilla frap but given a choice I'd rather sink into the sea with the fat fuckin floridan dude at least he's probably less up his own ass. |
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help, xltronic, i need help i need a word that transmogryphries "florida" and "unicorn" but they're such terribly incompatible words. i'm usually quite good at this but i feel a bit stuck, here; halp floridicorn? unidorida? crap; crap |
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...how would you define "frap" ? |
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the kinder aspect to america's system has been, i suppose, the ~absense~ of the attitude that, "the weak link breaks the chain." instead, the fifty states support each other [and, tangent, they also forget about, like, puerto rico; bastards won't even fix the aricebo telescope]. the vulnerability of this approach is when a bunch of fucking fatheads weigh down the ship to the point where it starts dangerously losing altitude. florida, lose some fucking weight. you're bringing us all down |
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I dunno man and I can't really picture you drinking one either but some of that nearby smug is rubbing off. You're indicting a large group of diverse humans in a region on account of mankinds overpopulation and collective failure to act. I don't see how it will serve you well except to make you feel a bit superior while you do fuck all actually help anything like the people trying to help the hurricane vics |
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I've never even been to florida btw I just know complete and utter bullshit when i see it. |
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hurricane vics. right. they should have been on the books as future victims 20-30 years ago, but instead they just kept going denying climate change and skimping on the structural integrity of buildings. now they're fucked and they expect the rest of the country to pay for it. i get it, that there are plenty of completely innocent people swept up in this. but, as a whole, florida is a significant voting bloc upon which the future of the US hinges, and flord.a is. fukq.d. you bastards bringing us all down etc. so i do consider the weight of what i am saying when i say: no |
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i've been to florida, actually. and from here we transition to "cool story bro" and largely irrelevant to thred: it was for DEAN KAMEN, the smarty man, and the FIRST robotics competition, the nationals, hosted in florida at orlando studios, after we won some of the regionals. i spent most of my time in the tent they set up a stone's throw away from the buckminster fullerdrome, tent literally a square kilo or such; could park a few jets in there. during the finale they played "sandstorm" and my friends and i had a right giggle because that was about the peak of us all appreciating it as a cornball laugh. i had, perhaps, six hours loose in disney world; i had time for freaking two rides. the other thing i remember is florida would be like: "it's a bit before noon, time to rain like the universe is ending" and then it'd be like "okay i'm spent" and sunny rest of the day. weird fucking place. |
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continuing: bless that robotics shit, really. got me on so many fantastic junkets. out to Tennessee, for example, because DIY network was doing some show with college teams and college dredged around for people with robotics experience and they found me. full semester credit with automatic A. a thing i'd never had before, a "per diem," and basically we pooled it and bought a blender and alcohol and strawberry dacquri. then there was: "you haven't tried pulled pork before?" then "you'll like it" and i did. but, yes, if you want to see what a fucking dweeb i was at twenty years old, those TV episodes are out there somewhere |
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yeah whatever: never put your money against brian neve if you're watching battlebots. i learned so much from that man, and it was a satisfyingly mutual situation: "how do you want me to wire the ground" and he's all "just add a million redundant ground wires everywhere so when one gets knocked loose everything keeps working" and then "...thanks, i usually have to do all the wiring shit on this show myself." also of note, we're in the bathroom, and i ask: "why did you wash your hands before peeing?" and he replies, very businesslike, "so i don't get shit on my dick." at that point i felt very stupid and stopped asking questions. finished peeing and went back to the band saw |
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maybe i do have a modicum of charisma. even did at twenty but i derail my own thredz |
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i'm thinking about it, and, yes, this thread is what this planet has done to my brain as of late. bile and retreat into nostalgia. but, perhaps, the path out? redundant grounding. acerbic genius like "so i don't get shit on my dick" etc |
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"climate change does not know or care about podcast schedules" --Kai Ryssdal |
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pretty neat robotics stuff. my buddy morgan was on the team for "The Mauler" on Battlebots back in the day. It was him and his brother and dad. I don't their robot did all that well, but it looked cool so it was the main promo that season. |
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FIRST robotics was very neat and tidy. no flamethrowers; no battlebots. but they use the. exact. same. parts. and mr nave explaining to me how you could configure the joysticks on the radio remote to be linear, log, exp, etc and i knew how to wire up a bunch of PWM speed controllers to pneumatics and motors but i'd never gotten a crash course on programming the controller, i never knew about... it's more than just a million redundant ground wires, it's about creating a grid, actually... and i dunno, sometimes you can fast-talk your way into the kitchen and see how the pros actually do stuff. that was so much fun but, actually, there was more fun before that, totally unhinged fun, like: "design and tech" it was called; school admins thought "it's the dumb shop kids" but it was actually "this is where the nerds hide" and the nice elderly gent that, like, only vaguely ran the place -- like, just gently, like occasionally handing us a bunch of those flammable aerosol breath spritzer things and some piezo grill lighters and saying "have fun boys" and they were small battlebots, based on RC cars, but... one was covered in pink confetti and intended to be set on fire to please the crowd, another had a flamethrower. then there was the one with a rotary saw blade on a DC motor that sawed through a metal trash can and injured the teacher it all went over very well with the crowd. things went a bit south when some people who were less nerd, more, like... asshole... got wind of the place, at that point we were into building air cannons and one day some inbred shit who had no business there had showed up and was using the air cannon to fire metal barstock at ducks. i thot: "dat's fukdeddd" and left. later they all got in deep shit for firing an apple over the school roof that hit a teacher car windshield FIRST was much more tame. |
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but yes, who cares if your bot wins, though it does matter a bit if you make it a round or two before elimination. if you haven't worked on a team doing something like that it's hard to explain |
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that... why, yes... the first time i ever heard "milkshake" by kelis, no joke, was in the passenger seat of a rental car on the way over to the studio to film that episode. tom and i just chatting and eric shushes us and very authoritatively states: "alright, i need you guys to shut up and listen to this song, because the lyrics are seriously, like, 'my milkshake brings all the boys to the yard.'" since he was so adamant; we had no arguments. in fact we all get a bit giggly and start hurling ourselves around the car seats, making the car wiggle to the song. the car is wiggling as we pull up to a red light, and the car in front of us is also, also wiggling. it was the other team on the way to the studio too; they were listening to the same song on the same radio station. and before either of us could even see each other they're goofing about making their rental car wiggle the same exact way; we just casually pull up behind them, wiggling too, they see us, we see them, everyone figures it out all at once, then those poor cars really got their fucking suspension tested. very lovely moment |
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I dunno "kelis," but I do like the milkshake song. Maybe it is by "kelis." I guessed it would be Beyonce or Niki Manaj or Kesha or some big pop name I've heard of but never listened to their actual music. Either way, it's a pretty good pop tune. |
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took 2 sec to google I guess it is Kelis. Never heard the name myself, but I haven't listened to the radio since 1997 |
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I've also never heard a single track by kanye west, outside of probably a movie or commercial. I couldn't name one |
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the last song i remember turning the radio on for was . 1994. I was 10. I really liked that song when I was 10 man. |
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listening to it now and it's pretty legit good |
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yes, i got it very early on into the years of mp3 adventure. that, fact, i've actually seen bush in concert, and they obligatorily played this song, arguably their biggest hit. filter and chevelle were opening up. richard patrick is a twat |
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Home Buyers Flock to Florida Cities Devastated by Hurricane Ian ‘It’s pretty much business as usual,’ one agent says; area damaged by storm had experienced sharp price run-up ...then it's a paywall, but yes, this matches my more limited observations |
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