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jimisteel
from SLC (United States) on 2002-04-24 01:59 [#00191540]
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Why is this MB CENSORED? My Theory: There is no right and wrong. Only action & consequence. Every single person knows exactly what is right for them to do at that moment no facts are relevant. BE HERE NOW, meaning concentrate on the PRESENT, what your doing RIGHT NOW, forget about the past and the future.
It is not possible to make a mistake its all experience. If you think its right for you to take drugs. It is right FOR YOU period. If you think its wrong for you to take drugs it is wrong FOR YOU. You are Both RIGHT, at any given moment you know exactly what is right for you. Obviously no one can believe murder, stealing, raping is right for them to do. There is no right and wrong it doesnt exist. Debate is a waste of time.
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Xanatos
from New York City (United States) on 2002-04-24 02:01 [#00191542]
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Sure, why not.
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Spookyluke
from United States on 2002-04-24 02:01 [#00191543]
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...It's right for me to correct you. "Your" an idiot. Learn to spell. I respect the opinions of the literate community, exclusively. And second, you're whole philosophy is called "Satanism." It was invented by Anton LaVey, I reckon.
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Zen Storm
from St. Charles (United States) on 2002-04-24 02:04 [#00191544]
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You reckon correctly
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Sido Dyas
from a computer on 2002-04-24 02:05 [#00191545]
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soo.....did you just watch fight club or something??? Your post is the most stupid thing ive read in a long time.
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Zen Storm
from St. Charles (United States) on 2002-04-24 02:07 [#00191546]
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Losers Unite......We must rebel against the social constraints of society.......or waste more time
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jimisteel
from SLC (United States) on 2002-04-24 02:09 [#00191548]
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spooky luke i take it your religious and this offends you. spelling??? what are you joking. Because some one mispells a word that means that you cant respect the person ok whos the idiot now?? think about it Einsteins cousin's brother!!! and its not satanism its DAS ENERGI paul williams.
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diemax
from somewhere in tennessee :( (United States) on 2002-04-24 02:10 [#00191549]
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jimi... that's the dumbest thing i've ever heard in my life.... almost poetic in fact
i could comment on it using references to kurt vonegots theory of chrono synclastic infundibulae... but i really don't wanna go through that much effort, enjoy your delusions
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Crocomire
from plante (United States) on 2002-04-24 02:12 [#00191550]
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jimisteel, you are correct. but most people aren't able to handle the truth. there is no absolute right and wrong, only subjectiveness. it can be a scary thought when considered by the masses, which are not ready.
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flea
from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-04-24 02:13 [#00191551]
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hey spooky spelling mistakes are a fact of life...I make so many but it's primarily because I am crap at typing..as far as jmini's views go..they are a bit wobbly and skewed..this is not an open free for all forum like the usenet but a Website being managed by Phobia..though I may not always agree with some of his shut downs...it is Phobiazero's perogative..and he is offering up this tremendous site full of resources, a forum and community..he has a well earned right to his privilages and decisions....
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diemax
from somewhere in tennessee :( (United States) on 2002-04-24 02:18 [#00191563]
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isn't it spelled "prerogative"? or ami just hi?
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2002-04-24 02:21 [#00191569]
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OH LORD MONTREAL JUST SCORED TWO GOALS IN LIKE A MINUTE, I JUST ORGASMED!!!! I WAS GOING TO TYPE SOMETHING WORTHWHILE BUT I'M JUST SO EXCITED NOW!!!!!!!
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Zen Storm
from St. Charles (United States) on 2002-04-24 02:30 [#00191576]
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You just said each person decides what is right and what is wrong for them....except for certain acts (rape, murder). These acts are nothing more then actions society has told is wrong. So you are really a slave to the chains.
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diemax
from somewhere in tennessee :( (United States) on 2002-04-24 02:36 [#00191578]
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it's right for me to stop typing on this thread, and to stop reading it- so i'm gonna live in the "now" and do it
hip hip hooray
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AMinal
from Toronto (Canada) on 2002-04-24 02:42 [#00191579]
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i agree with jimisteel......
you dont have to think to hard to find that what is right and wrong is just an indiviudal thing
its subjective
u have to be pretty naive (spelling? i wouldn't want to offend spookyluke) to actually believe that whatever side u took is THE right one
absolutely those people with other views are just plain wrong .....ya right..
there are no absolute or fundamental truths or morals..... everyone makes their own
one point that demonstrates this very well is abortion
so i challenge anyone who disagrees to please.. [IN A CIVILIZED MANER (not childish remarks and "thats just stupid" bullshit or name-calling please)]
...pick an issue, and tell is why one side is JUST PLAIN RIGHT (or wrong)
and u cant just say "it just is"
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Sido Dyas
from a computer on 2002-04-24 02:46 [#00191581]
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So where Hitler right or wrong???
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AMinal
from Toronto (Canada) on 2002-04-24 02:48 [#00191583]
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PS: ive noticed people tend to get really offended when this things are discussed....
...because its very difficult to face that all the supposedly self evident, fundimental truths uve built ur mind around are not real at all
but that uve made them urself (or someone else did, and u just believe them)
oh well
PLEASE dont call me a fucking "nazi" (thats what happened last time this was discussed) just because i awknowlege that right/wrong (morals) are made by the individual
this does NOT mean that i am some sort of EVIL person who enjoys doing "wrong" things
please
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Spookyluke
from United States on 2002-04-24 02:50 [#00191584]
Points: 1955 Status: Lurker | Followup to jimisteel: #00191548
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...I'm not at all religious; I am, however, in favor of a society where people do what's right and wrong based upon legal practices. It just isn't pragmatic for everyone to go about doing whatever they feel is right. If you want to use drugs, that's your prerogative, but it doesn't make it right at all.
And as far as spelling goes, spelling errors are okay, provided they aren't elementary homophones, such as using "your" in place of "you're."
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Spookyluke
from United States on 2002-04-24 02:52 [#00191585]
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Right--I know, I make spelling errors, too. It's just the really pathetic ones that bother me. It's very... hmm, I'll go with "apathetic" to make such basic mistakes. It's the writing level of a first-grader.
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Crocomire
from plante (United States) on 2002-04-24 02:53 [#00191586]
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Hitler was right in his own mind, wrong in others'. so he was both.
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AMinal
from Toronto (Canada) on 2002-04-24 02:53 [#00191587]
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he probably thought he was right and so did a few other people
if u value human life u will think he is wrong (i value life, and i think he was wrong)
if u believe that the colour of ur skin, ur religion, or ur heretige somehow makes u superior to others............ then u might think he was right
(i personally do not)
but of course its easy to pic out right/wrong in cases like this....... where a value as basic as human life is questioned
most people are on the same page here (that life is valubale, race doesn't matter, and hitler was wrong)
its still subjective
try something a little harder to "prove" something where peoples values and morals actually differ a lot
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Sido Dyas
from a computer on 2002-04-24 02:53 [#00191588]
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Spelling??? Who cares? alot us aren't americans or english you now. Fuck up's are bound to happen often hehehe = )
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AMinal
from Toronto (Canada) on 2002-04-24 02:55 [#00191590]
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WER AL VERRY IMPRESED WITH YUR SPELING
you must be a really smart guy
this must somehow make u more qualified than us
your opinion us surely worth more than ours
after all...... u can spell
please, enlighten us
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Sido Dyas
from a computer on 2002-04-24 02:56 [#00191591]
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but what exactly are you trying to prove here? Im not sure im folowing you at all?
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Sido Dyas
from a computer on 2002-04-24 02:57 [#00191595]
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What is the basics of this great new way of thinking master yoda?
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AMinal
from Toronto (Canada) on 2002-04-24 03:01 [#00191598]
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.....that wether he was right or wrong is STILL subjective
the mere fact that two people (ie: u and hitler) have differing opinions on wether he was right or wrong PROVES that it is subjective
im just trying to say theres no such thing as a fundamental, absolute right or wrong
everyone creates it for themselves, thats all ....and it only exists in ur head (even in cases so apparently obvious)
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AMinal
from Toronto (Canada) on 2002-04-24 03:02 [#00191599]
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...... and please, i specifically asked for no childish name calling
if u cant win with reason, u dont have to resort to trying to make fun of me
seriously........ THATS JUST WRONG ;)
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Spookyluke
from United States on 2002-04-24 03:03 [#00191600]
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Sure, spelling errors happen--I know, there are typos. The point is, if one has a high school education and is a native speaker of English, one should, then, use the correct spelling. It's good practice.
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pachi
from yo momma (United States) on 2002-04-24 03:12 [#00191604]
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nobudy max phunn of my spelins! or els!
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Sido Dyas
from a computer on 2002-04-24 03:15 [#00191607]
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Haha!! sorry about that i couldnt resist the sudden urge to call you Yoda.
But you must admit you came of sounding like you had the answer to the meaning of life or something and i was just a ignorant sheep living under a false ilusion called reality.("there is no spoon...")
And now when i get what you are saying i kind of get the feeling that i learned nothing new here LOL.
I kind of new this alredy. = )
the thing is that Jimisteel sounded like he thought that we should all do what we feel like.
like in Fight Club or something. Fuck society, fuck the rules!!!!!
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pachi
from yo momma (United States) on 2002-04-24 03:16 [#00191608]
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well, i thinc spelling isn't really a big deal unless u'r writing a report or book or such.
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2002-04-24 03:20 [#00191609]
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but spelling is a big deal!!!!!! If we don't have correct spelling, what else are we left with dammit?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
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Sido Dyas
from a computer on 2002-04-24 03:25 [#00191610]
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fuk spelig!!!!
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AMinal
from Toronto (Canada) on 2002-04-24 03:26 [#00191611]
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sorry sido i didn't mean to come off sounding like that
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Crocomire
from plante (United States) on 2002-04-24 03:27 [#00191612]
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do what u want unless it interferes with another's right to do the same. that's cool. but is this the absolute "right"?
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pachi
from yo momma (United States) on 2002-04-24 03:29 [#00191613]
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lmao
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Sido Dyas
from a computer on 2002-04-24 03:32 [#00191615]
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no prob..= )
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AMinal
from Toronto (Canada) on 2002-04-24 03:50 [#00191625]
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hm..... good idea
but then whos right comes first?
what if i want to listen to music, but my sister wants to read (quietly)
and for arguments sake, lets say theres no compromise possible (ie headphones dont exist, and neither of us can do our thing somewhere else)
so i couldn't listen to music cus it would interfere with her reading
but she couldn't read cus then i wouldn't be able to listen to music
(yes i realize there are a bunch of easy solutions, but this is just a hypothetical situation, to make a point)
my point is that there would still be some situations in which peoples rights would confict
then one person would claim to be right and that the other is wrong
...but the law that "everyone can do what they want but cannot infring on another's right to do so aswell", would make BOTH me and my sister right AND wrong
...see what i mean?
(sorry if im babbling on here.. but this is interesting to me)
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pachi
from yo momma (United States) on 2002-04-24 04:18 [#00191638]
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i fear that if i start a thread about this that it'll get closed, but...
...why have there been 2 girls that have come, posted bullcrap, & left once they've found about kara? gee, i'm so looking forward to another one of them (no i'm not being sexist; i just wonder why some people would do this...)
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zguru
from Lindale (Texas) (United States) on 2002-04-24 04:25 [#00191639]
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I guess I don't know what's going on here. Maybe it's not my business.
Are we talking about MB censorship?
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AMinal
from Toronto (Canada) on 2002-04-24 04:25 [#00191640]
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ya thats happened a few times... its getting annoying
lol... they all seem to go like this:
girl - hi mb - ur a girl.... are u kara? girl - whos kara? mb - you MUST be kara! get her! girl - fuck you losers!
girl makes a few quick offensive topics then gets banned mb discusses it
..lol
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pachi
from yo momma (United States) on 2002-04-24 04:38 [#00191646]
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*lmao*
exactly!
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zguru
from Lindale (Texas) (United States) on 2002-04-24 04:43 [#00191650]
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who's this kara, and what did she do to piss the MB off?
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pachi
from yo momma (United States) on 2002-04-24 04:46 [#00191653]
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supposedly she claimed to kno RDJ and no one trusted her
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pachi
from yo momma (United States) on 2002-04-24 04:47 [#00191656]
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"believed" prolly sounds better than "trusted"
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zguru
from Lindale (Texas) (United States) on 2002-04-24 04:48 [#00191657]
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So what if she knew RDJ?
I mean, that would be cool to know him as a friend, but what difference is that to a message board?
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xlr
from Boston (United States) on 2002-04-24 04:48 [#00191658]
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some ppl believed her for a little while...including me hehe. It was a fun thread at least.
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pachi
from yo momma (United States) on 2002-04-24 04:50 [#00191659]
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tru
i dunno man, i guess things just got blown WAY outta proportion
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zguru
from Lindale (Texas) (United States) on 2002-04-24 04:53 [#00191661]
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that's the great part. everyone has a secret identity. nobody knows who is who. if i were RDJ, it would be fun to poke in here.
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pachi
from yo momma (United States) on 2002-04-24 04:54 [#00191662]
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yeah, supposedly he was at the autechre.nu forum with s. booth, & it's been closed since...
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