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It's not great when they really disrupt things as well as interupt other people's conversations. Both urb and I spotted acidpants as a troll within a few of her posts. Read closed threads 'Drugs pt 2', Psychadelic Experiences, or any other made by acidpants tonight to see the difference between a troll and someone just lying about knowing/being afx, I would have no problem with that. =) |
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why would it close? |
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MB closed for now The messageboard has been closed due to misbehaviour. It might get online later on. misbehavio(u)r |
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You'll see one time when things get out of hand, as it often does especially when there are no login/pws.. yawnno, goodnight all |
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g'nite i should prolly go to. i got school worc. c-yaz |
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later... |
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The webmasters should post the IP addresses of the banned posters as a "public service." I know some "friends" who could "make their acquaintence." |
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There are patches for IP addresses, and proxy web servers that use different IP addresses. When I got kicked off Napster, I just bypassed my banned IP number. |
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Good point, but I sort of doubt these trolls are at your level of sophistication! |
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I assume a troll is an imposter. |
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No, a troll will post in order to attract predictable responses, without any real interest in the topic at hand. |
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Yeah, pretty much someone who deliberately posts a controversial or unnecessary topic in order to maximise (angry) replies. |
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okay, if you say there is no right or wrong... then how can you say that censorship is "wrong"... maybe others think it is right... what your stating is just a big loophole. posting that was a waste of time. anyway, this site is property of phobiazero, if he doesn't like something he can fucking do whatever he wants. i respect your opinion, and i agree that anyone can say or think whatever they want... but this is only an ideal, wish. it really comes down to if this though or idea offends someone else, and if it does it has to be delt with. fairly or not. |
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I'm on an academic mailing list that discusses Marshall McLulhan that's having a lot of problems at the moment; someone posted this yesterday and it's a pretty good read if you want to see what Trolls do to a list if left unchecked... I've gotta admit to being slightly amused at Trolls & the like, they can be very witty....but they do clog up lists, make people mad and foster ill-feeling; bad news for little communities like ours... Read that article and I think you'll understand a bit more why inaction is not appropriate when it comes to dealing with this sort of shit..... |
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- good old relativism eh? - a complete system .. and thus by definition is incomplete! um .. i'll shut up now |
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just think of this mb as your house and all of us who post here would be at a party at your house. would you mind if i was expressing myself freely by taking a piss in your closet? and if everybody would fuck your house upside down? you get the idea? that's why i'm for a minimum of censorship, to control the people that cant control themselves. |
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I glanced at the article... It's amazing that new aspects of social behavior are rising out of message boards and the like. Seriously, we are part of a new socialogical aspect. |
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Agreed. It's phobia's site, his messageboard, and he can impose whatever rules he wants. You're not obligated to come here and post. I think it's a great community and I'd hate to see it ruined by trolls. |
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^ " :) |
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xlr, I love your pics! :) Anyway you wrote right things and I'm totally agree. 1) Phobizero is the chief and make the laws. 2) No trolls. |
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I dont know what's going on but I feel thick compared to alot of you guys. And I dont care. I think when a right and wrong cant be establised we should eat cake. |
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the only thing that is wrong is to impose your morals on another person. |
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"Every single person knows exactly what is right for them to do at that moment no facts are relevant. BE HERE NOW, meaning concentrate on the PRESENT, what your doing RIGHT NOW, forget about the past and the future. " you are just very wrong |
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So.. Spooky luke.. If youre so totally into this "no right or wrong"-business, why create a whole topic regarding the very subject?!?! aaagghh... this place has seen lots of smart asses that sound like prophets. nothing new. Hello. Aphex Twin is a good musician. Bye. |
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OH, SORRY!!!!! ITS NOT SPOOKYLUKE!!!!!!! READ ---------> JIMISTEEL !!! |
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EvOlUmE nice pic i dont say this enough but your pic is whack |
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spelling dosn't matter. We're having a discussion about the point of right and wrong and the value of human life as we know it, and all we can argue about is spelling? |
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pserrlinggs dooesenet mnatderter? |
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"I dont care about ANYTHING.. I really dont. people can do what the hell they want, but im soo relaxed and cool and all-knowing and all-seeing that i dont care.. BY THE WAY! YOU ARE CUNTS! and all this is announced on the highly acclaimed aphextwin.nu messageboard." yeahhhhhh., |
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Back to the origianl thread let me correct myself ( had to leave the computer last night): The part about forget the past and future, throw that out. history is important, what i meant to say is: your trying to make music but you just broke up with a your girlfriend your thinking about her, quit trying to make music because you cant concentrate on it exclusively. Next point: There is just so much grey area, for example most christian religions believe it is morally wrong to be gay. Is it morally wrong?? you can answer yes or no but whos right?? neither or both. Whats funny about it is its happening right now, you know what you think is right, the majority of the time you do what you feel is right, everyone knows when they have done something wrong, no ones perfect. Another example: for its not possible to make a mistake: A chain reaction happens your not in your home ciyt you make a mistake like take a wrong turn, then you discover a record store because you took the wrong turn and you find some bomb records for cheap. Was that wrong turn a mistake? Any way you should never discuss : religion politics drugs philosophy etc because its all opinion one big debate. I totally respect and appreciate phobiazero and everyone, just acidpants got my boxers in a bunch, and i had to express myself. |
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Fair play, without trying to sound patronising- you're thinking and that in itself is productive. But I wouldn't stick to it in normal everyday life, it depends how far you take it. From a negative criticism, you could go out and be a complete Hedonist, do whatever the fuck you wanted because it was "right" for you. However this adversely affects a lot of people. What of the "Universal Responsibility" that the Dalai Lama talks about? Really it's like a small sub-theory in a shit load of theory, you can come at it from a lot of angles. But read more on the subject, maybe "Zen and the Art of Motorcycle" maintenance is a good place to start to broaden your horizons a bit. It's pretty much about thought and perception. The only problem about discussing thought on boards is that sometimes you come off like a nerd who loves himself for having read something and it just has to come out. Then you get someone else who has to completely diss you without backing themselves up and everything turns into an interactive web- Jerry Springer. Which is why I can't handle being here much. Also, I tend to say too much! Piece, have a nice life. Aphextwin.nu MB close allie, former MB ADDICT, even more formerly the ghost that didn't say shit- S C A R Y B E A R PS: I'm always watching! |
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huked on fonix werked four mee. right and wrong dont exist. its like someone said, we beleive rape, killing, etc is wrong, because society tells us it is. hell, those incas or mayans or whoever killed their citizens and ate their hearts or somethin along those lines. and the citizens thought it was 'right'. they might not have liked it, but it was 'right' to them. rightness or wrongness are all in the eye of the beholder.. or in the hand of the executer... whatever. |
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exactly thats all we were trying to say people dont have to get so offended... holy shit, excuse us for straying from the usual: "which is your favourite!?!??!?!"-esque topics i wasn't trying to sound smart or impress u or something like that get over urselves, people dont do everything to try to impress YOU its just an interesting idea |
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btw: ya i agree that phobiazero can go ahead and close topics/ban people if they are causing a problem it is HIS messageboard afterall and if u dont like it u dont have to be here |
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Sorry, I agree with spookyluke, I'm not inclined to take seriously the opinions of an illiterate. Besides, your argument it tripe- everyone knows what right and wrong in any given situation is, weak people try to use "wishy washy" philosphy and fatalism as justification for their actions and lack of control. |
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oh please ur telling me that every situation has an obvious right and wrong that everyone knows? aztecs thought canabalism was right americans (some) think the death penalty is right some think drugs are wrong what about....... abortion? theres no obvious right/wrong that "everybody knows" people only know their OWN right/wrong, because its what THEY WANT to think, it justifies what they want to do, or because they just believe what society tells them and just cus i awknowlege that its subjective doesn't mean im sort of sadist or something like that... im actually one of the most "morally upstanding" people i know its a pretty niave assumption that people who think this way are automatically "BAD" people who dont know the difference between right and wrong, and do all these horrible things just cus they feel like it, with no consideration for others |
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Abortion is wrong. Cannibalism is wrong. The death penalty is wrong. Hard drugs are wrong. |
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I don't understand how anyone can honestly not SEE that... |
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Abortion is not wrong........... |
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here we go a perfect example sido here thinks abortion is NOT wrong the fact that u two disagree proves that morals are subjective so, u can "just see" that these things are wrong who r u, jesus? what makes u think what YOU see is the right thing? have u ever actually thought through WHY u think certain things are right/wrong? please, tell me exactly why hard drugs are wrong (in a rational way: not "it just is, ok?") |
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They're conciousness altering. They drastically affect the way you percieve things (including your ability to tell right from wrong). They often (not always)lead to addiction and self destruction. They frequently cause you to behave in an anti-social manner- have you ever got in a fight with a crackhead or had your house burgled by a junkie? They are in the long run perfomance deprecating, damaging your health, lifespan and even your ability to feel "happiness" through neurone damage. Don't get me wrong, I don't go up to people who take hard drugs and have a go at them or try to get them to quit. |
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what does it matter? he was just joking around anyway nobody can really be THAT stupid |
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The death penalty is NOT wrong! |
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Oh and with regard to abortion, I find it sickening that the original hypocratic oath forbade doctors from performing (or giving a woman the means to perform on herself) an abortion, but the modern medical world has handilt erased that line... |
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Of course as Judicial officer I retain the right to execute Barry scum who play football near my car... |
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Abortion is wrong. This issue is not a question of right & wrong. The issue is do you give people freedom of choice. Do you give people the option to legally chose wrong? Everyone who choses abortion knows its wrong, sometimes people decide to go with wrong. Cigarettes are a perfect example people can chose to smoke them even though it may kill them. Smoking is a choice. Your health and right & wrong are two different things. No one on this message board is illiterate. Are you an English major? Do you have a degree in English? If so who cares, were not being graded on this web site were communicating. I make music and i paint. I have no desire to go to school for english or philosophy etc. Schools dont teach you opinions, and they dont affect your ability to grasp concepts. (defending myself against an exaggeration) No direspect this is my opinion. I probably have some of the highest morals of anyone one this site from what i gather. I am not trying to justify peoples wrong doing. If your doing something wrong your aware of it. Some people chose the Dark side, they know they are evil and wrong and they choose to be that way. |
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Claiming a lack of restraint as throwing of the shackles imposed by society is feeble. Strength is in control rather than giving in to baser desires. If you just do what you like all the time without caring about the consequences you are no better than an animal. How much harder is it to walk away rather than get involved in a fight? How much more difficult it is to go against peer pressure than give in... "Discipline maketh the geez" Roots Manuva. |
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right is what people decide to be right. the englishmen spell the words from their language in a way they decided to. i spell w-u-r-d and you tell me it's wrong because they told you w-o-r-d is right. you tell abortion is wrong because they told you it was. someone decided it was. btw, i still think it's wrong. (excuse my eventually bad spelling or anything. i do'nt now inglesch saw gud.) |
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Shit, I regret not being here yesterday, this was an interesting discussion that would clearly benefit from my extreme, sociopathic views... |
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hehh, it's never too late... |
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