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In advice titled "Positioning Windows 11 and Preparing to Deploy", Gartner research vice president Stephen Kleynhans assesses the new OS as offering an "overdue facelift" and praises new features such as the new Microsoft Store, Android app support, and ditching Internet Explorer. But Kleynhans also opined "All of these capabilities could have been released as just another feature update for Windows 10". The new name, he suggests, is about creating buzz rather than marking important change. By calling it Windows 11, he opines, Microsoft “has created a marketing opportunity for the PC ecosystem. ditching internet explorer, lol, it's just been renamed "edge" |
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i got less than a year setting up again on an old work laptop running win10 for music software and the occasional game. but apparently this laptop -- actually probably only like four years old -- does not meet the requirements for win11. thank christ i hate windows update with a passion. it's like a teenage kid trying to sneak cigarettes all the time. i'll go off for an hour and come back to find my computer locked. i didn't lock it? no, it just decided to sneak in some updates and reboot my computer. no prompt, no warnings. never mind open apps unsaved work etc etc and no indication what the fuck just happened. but i can smell it. you've been smoking zigs again, haven't you, windows? there is no longer an option to have it say, "updates a ready, have a look." you do not get to choose anymore. it just fucking installs whatever it wants, as soon as it downloads whatever the fuck it wants. you can't even totally shut it off. no, all you can do is click "delay updates for one week" over and over until you hit the limit of, oh, four weeks. it's gotten me multiple times with that: hey, what happened to my compu- oh, shit, it must have been four weeks so now, every week or so, i "resume updates," let it do whatever, reboot six times, then mash the delay button until it's maxed out. for my troubles, here, i get crapware regularly injected into my desktop experience. some weather widget to promote MSN that is really really hard to get rid of. right now, it keeps pinning random "news" crap to the start menu, from running updates yesterday. meanwhile, they have a bunch of twats out there doing roundtables like "devs just love the microsoft store" if you say so buddy |
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are you a 40+ sex pest that looks like a melted version of sylvester stallone? are you willing to step on anyone and everyone to meet your target? are you willing to wholesale sabotage other teams over the most trivial of things? you may have a career at microsoft. we can also pencil you in for google 2025 |
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jesus christ what utter prigs |
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that was the weather thing i mentioned. right now i'm on at this point i am actually going to set up a router rule to block bing, msn, etc. because they keep slipping it in, like an obnoxious jesus-obsessed mom hiding handwritten bible passages on post-it notes in your lunch, between the pages your school books, if i wasn't into this msn crap already, with all you've pressed it on me, why do you still think this has, well, even a prayer of a chance? ditto for doing precisely the same horseshit with edge as the did with internet explorer. windows 11 looks even more obnoxious on this front. it's just an artificial barrier to force people into a more confined box: less control user control, more injecting crapware whenever marketing has some crack-induced brainwave. more windows bor^H^H store. but it allows them to start locking people out by 2025: software will then require windows 11, windows 10 will no longer be support. it did not have to be the next XP; it really still does not. they've just declared a timeline to turn it into the next XP this round, linux will actually run all my music software. the only real issue is fucking shit like arturia where you cannot change the settings on their hardware without plugging it into a computer and it does not support linux. 2025, i guess, there will be options, and if i have to go to linux, i'll simply sell off anything that does not support it. arturia, you have been warn. also fucking anything else with a USB port that might need an update -- behringer, even moog. i'll go back to proper analog i swear |
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i don't care if anyone hears me it's just nice to have a place to vent thx guys, thx xlt. someone on microsoft complained about me complaining about windows 11 and that's why i'm not on twitter anymore. now that internets is ~big business~ corporations have developed very flexible architectures for silencing the sort of caustic bile that once kept their predicable horseshit in check. |
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don't get me started on the center-ized taskbar shit. it's simply terrible design, especially if you're not using a touchscreen -- which the vast majority of windows users are not. having the start menu, pins, open apps on the left, vs. the smaller taskbar on the right -- arguably balanced, in the sort of off-kilter japanese way. but center, and it's like the universe is always slighting down tot he left, the heft of the tray off in the distance weighing down the see-saw; you're sliding down towards it forever vs. when the start menu was heavier; the start menu is what you want the eye on, yes? that's 90% of the click potential. while we're on that -- it's way easier to lazily whip the mouse down and to the left; wind up in the corner... then it is to hit a precise little nub that's 5/12 the way across the bottom of the screen, or something awkward like that. honestly, i think they just thought: "shiiit, people will know they're paying for exactly the same shit [except with less control and more of our marketing horseshit!] unless we change some shit shit shit oh i know let's 'centerize' the startaskbar and say we're helping you be more productive because it's closer to where the curshit usually shits shit" shit. |
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that i got one of those razer mice, plugged it in, and... it's running software, despite me having downloaded none at all. what the shit?! where did this installer come from? this is a fucking mouse. i don't care about setting the light colors, OK? i did not download this installer; i did not want it. i did not give you permission to run this on my computer. in fact, isn't this a huge security risk? go figure, it is: "Need to get root on a Windows box? Plug in a Razer gaming mouse" razer gets even worse, from what i've read. on their high-end gaming PCs, they have an optional install add on that uses your comp and GPU to mine cryptocoins and razer pockets 'em, i think there's a "scoreboard" and they're all oh look it's a game to see who has the most PC! but, no, it's called like "gammanow" and very clearly dodges saying what it's actually doing with your shit. but since it's optional; someone has to deliberately install it, it's kind of like, "if someone is that dumb you cannot hold us liable." microsoft hasn't gone that far, yet. i don't seem the doing crypto, either. no, instead they'll have your "spare" CPU cycles go to powering the azure cloud or some shit, win11 RC2 |
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too much text didnt read, that last post made me more suspicious though. 7 for everything, dual boot to 10 for anything that doesnt work on 7 anymore |
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DIDN’T READ EITHER LOL! |
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no idea what you're on about; your LOL is the first in the entire thred. |
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i do not like 7 at all. but i guess it's my history speaking i got fucked twice in a row; just timing: first new laptop i ever bought came with fucking Windows ME. second comes with fucking Windows Vista. my XP boxes fine and 7 is just Vista [worst crap fixed] and eff that except some old box with a video capture card that needs it... however, XP, quite manageable. you can just image the disk and then blast the image onto whatever; it doesn't care. so many great VST plugins windows 10, had to use it for work for a while, and i thought: now that this is a few years old and they've fixed the bugs, as well as relented and taken the worst horseshit out -- enforced cortana voice assistant, perfect for for the 1/2 of your customer base working in open offices -- it's only kinda shit. the control panel is still a schizophrenic meltdown; separate teams fighting to make settings panels that do the same shit in three different places. used to be you could pick updates; that functionality seems to be gone. but they have done some mad science on how to ruin my day by forcibly installing high-pressure, gassy, spraying, hippopotamus shit on teh my PC did u read that. |
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available please update your windows |
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read it! settings are weird in 7. there is a ton of progs and games that wont do on xp anymore, so its inevitable to move on for me. unsurprisingly this will be the same for w10 and so forth. its so annoying. i feel you with microsoft changing the interface on and on without thinking about the users who are perfectly happy with it, constantly hiding the settings and file management away. with all the supposedly improving usability users spend hours on managing the previous´s os usability. why not let the users decide if they want a new interface within the new version or just use the old one? its beyond me. sometime i feel its malicious intent keeping the user as dumb as possible, but its also simply targeting to a bigger consumer group altogether. now there is acutally one thing i really want as a user. full voice control. i know what i need to click, but i cant be bothered at times. i turn on the mic (so it doesnt spy on me all day). "wake up [computer´s name]! open program [Music XY] play [Genre]. open program [xp] open recent files, open file [xy] output as... blah blah shut down when youre finished. ta! i can do this while not sitting on front of it getting a hunch, or tendovagnitis etc.. |
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today it seems that window-key+q -- search for whatever -- now seems to send everything you type into the internet bing shit and i type cactus and spews hippo farts everywhere, bing results with ads, in a menu you never actually use to search the web, just files, progs am i the only one that has a problem with this? it's like, not only does it feel like someone's come into your house and moved all your shit around, but they've installed cameras and microphones as well. to help you get more relevant ads also today: phone OS update, all the shit there has changed too. particularly on my nerves is the new lock screen. it's not showing 24-hour time and if it's >9 it shows the 1 in RED with the rest in WHITE and i keep looking at it and shorts my brain out: the fuck it's 5:04? no, it's that thing again. it actually says 15:04 and it's 3:04, i am not tripping, god, whoever made this interface decision, i hope they trip and fall into a pile of bricks, repeatedly |
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*it's now showing |
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how obvious, of course |
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so, also, since the update on my phone to andoid 11 something, i've also had this issue where i take it out of my pocket and it's already in the process of turning itself on. it's been driving me nuts. i dropped it mildly the other day; is it fucked? or is it the update? and, no, it's the update. something called "tap to wake" [or shut off], a feature i never wanted nor knew about, is now seemingly enabled. i'm not sure if it's new, or if they just decided to switch it on for me. you know, to add to the pile of shit that... like, christ, i just update one day and all this crap is changed, and there's not even a memo. not even a list of "we turned this shit on" "we moved the cheese over here" etc no, nothing but "hi, eat this! lol" |
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i guess, actually, that's really what my point is: you are reaching into tools i live inside to run my life and do my job, you do it at arbitrary intervals, and then you don't tell me jack squat about what i've changed; leave me fumbling around trying to do something i knew how to do yesterday. i get that change is inevitable, but, i dunno. how would you feel if someone broke into your house every day, and rearranged your kitchen? where are the cups today? oh! that's a novel hiding spot for the silverware; under the sink this is both microsoft and google, now; mods please rename thred anyways, i could compromise. hey, yo, microsoft: do whatever, whenever, but then pop up a very detailed, very tedious changelog, with links to documentation. but also, always, an option to disable future notices. most people say "wut dis" and disable them promptly. mostly business as usual. however, people like me -- who care about the nuances of their setup -- can pour through it and carefully undo whatever damage you've done. i would still not hugely appreciate it, but i would probably no longer get mad. just mildly irritated. and i don't make dumb threads like this when i am merely mildly irritated. |
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i'll note i did carefully trawl through the changelog presented to me for the android update, which did not explicitly mention any of this, nor suggest an avenue to obtain more detailed info. and i still can't figure out how to fix the fucking lock screen cock clock piss cunt |
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yeah. yeah. it's that time of the fucking four or five weeks, maximum i'm allowed to delay windows update. i have to update windows. let's gooooo what are we in for this time? oh! here it is this did not used to take up the entire left monitor. no, it was kind of just a search menu, cornered off. now it's bloated all up to a whole screen. giant white void. i set up somefing called a "pi-hole" and blocked a lot of microsoft shit and i figure i'd be seeing a lot of raw sewage in that soothing white void if i hadn't gone ahead and... flushed it |
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i dunno. what am i supposed to do, here? a twist of fate leaves me with a 4-ish core thinkpad running windows as my winxp machine's swapfest audio interface kicks off. i think: well, i think i'll be alright! my mixer has decent usb. but this means i am using windows 10 for music! lord help me and it's been p. good for months, actually. but now they've windows 11 bulging like a pustule on their testicle and now that i think of it i've really just used reaper and its built-in fings for months and isn't all that on linux but honestly, my real feels: god dammit, you fucking piss djfghdjkfgdfhgheads, i just want this shit to be a reliable tape recorder, stop uprooting my life so you can put ads in the start menu and if you fuck with my shit enough i will find you with a brick. i swear |
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"but this means i am using windows 10 for music!" so what |
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a compulsory windows 10 update borked my ability to record directly from the soundcard, i've been irritated by this A GREAT DEAL |
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so as soon as i'm up, running, and comfy, they announce a schedule to do the same thing with this music computer as they did the last one i ran windows on: stop supporting it, get companies to make their software incompatible with it, then expect me to buy entirely new hardware, rebuild my whole setup, and possibly lose access to my old work. still hundreds of tracks i can't re-open without XP |
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but it's easier than ever to use bing to find everything you need |
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its anticompetitive and user hostile behavior is purposeful As originally designed, Windows 11 does not allow rival web browsers to set themselves as the default with a single click as with previous Windows releases. Instead, the user must manually undertake incredibly ponderous steps to make a non-Edge browser the default in Windows 11, and even then, certain actions, like clicking a news story in Widgets or searching the web from the taskbar/Start, will still launch Microsoft Edge. (And access back-end Microsoft services like Bing and MSN.) To date, users have been able to work around this anticompetitive behavior by using utilities like EdgeDeflector. And browser makers like Mozilla and Brave have implemented workarounds in their own products to make Windows 11 respect the user’s default browser choice. But the new build blocks these workarounds, leading to serious questions about Microsoft’s ethics and intentions. And now we’ve learned, explicitly, that this behavior is purposeful. “Windows openly enables applications and services on its platform, including various web browsers,” a Microsoft statement notes. “At the same time, Windows also offers certain end-to-end customer experiences in both Windows 10 and Windows 11, the search experience from the taskbar is one such example of an end-to-end experience that is not designed to be redirected. When we become aware of improper redirection, we issue a fix.” yeah, officially back in the same place i was with win8, never installing this shit. except, this time, i will start formulating a plan ~now~ rather than just trying to keep win10 going long after it's fucked |
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i knew they would do that again the twats, wasn't their some antitrust lawsuits about this sort of behaviour |
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there have been many typically they are slapped somehow, they go off to lick their wounds for a bit, then promptly do it again, with feeling |
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