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jtalton
from Onomichi (Japan) on 2020-09-19 13:28 [#02606145]
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So I just jumped on the Bitwig wagon. Anyone else doing the bitwig?
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Roger Wilco
from Mo's Beans on 2020-09-19 15:29 [#02606146]
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It's a No from me but I'm sure somebody here knows what you're talking about. I'll ask around.
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mermaidman
on 2020-09-19 22:32 [#02606151]
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roger wilco uses internet explorer
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2020-09-19 23:35 [#02606152]
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i followed it with much interest for a bit, because, hey, native linux support -- but it's written in java, i think, and from what i've heard it's trying to be ableton but it still has quite a way to go -- but this was like a year or two ago; perhaps not current
in the end, i found out that renoise has native linux support. i tried the demo, and it seems to more or less work, aside from it ignoring the gdm volume setting and blasting me pretty hard.
so, dunno, are you confining yourself to the glory of linux? even if so, can you handle using a tracker? then perhaps renoise. if you're windows/osx it seems like you should probably just stick with ableton, but, again, maybe they've advanced a lot in two years
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steve mcqueen
from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2020-10-20 00:10 [#02606506]
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i don't get why ppl make stuff like that Bitwig thing, and a couple of other things
how do you manage to put the effort in to make something that is like something else
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steve mcqueen
from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2020-10-20 00:14 [#02606507]
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like timelines and patch routing, ok , prb other stuff too, not expecting to reinvent the wheel there - but they had to make those things from scratch and they couldn't be bothered really to think how they could be put together differently
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jtalton
from Onomichi (Japan) on 2020-10-20 15:40 [#02606510]
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i like a a few things on it more than ableton. The modulators are pretty awesome and the grid is pretty insane. I also use MPE which is implemented much better in Bitwig.
I will say i do wish I could use MAX with it. Max for live is pretty awesome and i miss it when ever i use bitwig.
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2020-10-21 06:33 [#02606520]
Points: 25265 Status: Lurker | Followup to steve mcqueen: #02606507
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like timelines and patch routing, ok , prb other stuff too, not expecting to reinvent the wheel there - but they had to make those things from scratch and they couldn't be bothered really to think how they could be put together differently
on the one hand -- you're building this from scratch. jesus christ, why not fix some things?
on the other hand -- you're building this from scratch, and that's already a lot.
the only reason i've ever been interested in bitwig is linux support. windows is crap, and macs are increasingly crap (about to get moreso with a messy ARM migration) and linux is really all i want to deal with unless someone is signing my paychex. so, "hey, yes, it's pretty much a clone of ableton, but it'll run on linux" is actually not a horrible value proposition, from where i sit.
that being said, last i tried to run it, well, i'm on arch, not debian or ubuntu, and after a while trying to install cross-linux package manager this and rebuild package that i gave up.
renoise did much better. fired right up. but it blasted at full volume, ignored system volume setting. i should try that again, sort it out.
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steve mcqueen
from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2020-10-30 18:05 [#02606638]
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don't get me wrong, it's ace that there are more DAWs about for Linux,
(and yeah, i only use me macbook [with singleboot debian] to watch videos these days, lol)
it's like, there's a step before you sit down and start to build things, that i think should last quite a bit longer for most projects - like firstly, does something else do this, and secondly ok, if something does, can we spend a bit more time restructuring it into something a bit new...
(unless i am being paid) i don't see the point in doing anything which hasn't got some frission of 'well, this doesn't exist yet'
tho obviously, i am very glad that there are many many opensource bods who labour away extensively and without much thanks, to build stuff like Bitwig and perhaps more importantly practically all the stuff i am using right now
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steve mcqueen
from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2020-10-30 18:16 [#02606639]
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HAVING said that - it is Totally Not A Good Idea that something does like more than probably 2 things completely newly... although i think i read that in a marketing manual
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steve mcqueen
from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2020-11-21 18:25 [#02606958]
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I jumped the gun on this, all the above that i wrote is a load of hot air - was running my mouth
tis pretty nice
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