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imagine some fifteen million merits style future: the ipad cube rooms are run by apple. the apple ecosystem is a squeaky-clean arcology. outside, however... everything else. like in demolition man, we have the ultra-anal squaky clean people vs. the hairy sewer people that fart and eat ratburger. why does it always seem to come down to this -- like one and zero? apple and android. is it humanity's fate to separate like oil and water? one zone of squeaky-clean fascism, and another zone of hairy anarchy.... or, well it'd be more like an apple egg yolk of fascism surrounded by an android egg white of anarchy... point is, fuck apple |
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what do you think gated communities are about |
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What dariusgriffin said, also I think a bigger division is between closed systems for consumption-only - phones, tablets - and open systems - desktops and laptops (even Raspberry Pi) that can install anything and are far more modifiable. Apple's decision to go with ARM processors on Macs is a bad sign that they're going even more walled-garden. Of course their dream is to make the Mac app store the sole source of software on the Mac and get their 30% cut of everything. One good effect Apple has had, with their intense focus on ergonomics is that it's shamed Microsoft so badly that Windows is usable now. I've been using Windows 10 lately, and it's... good?! It feels like using a Mac. I'll probably get a business line Dell for my next laptop. It's too bad because things were getting really good on Mac, IL even finally ported FL Studio and it works great. But the hardware tax is too ridiculously high now and I don't like how the walls are closing in. |
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interesting point of view |
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just installed win10. its not good and you are wrong. good day sir. |
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protip: find the russian software 'winaero tweaker', it will show you all the settings system wide in a single nice list, instead of having to scavenger hunt around multiple legacy settings windows for the special 'Advanced Rofl' setting you are looking for. |
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I agree with Chomsky on Zisek |
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Apple's decision to go with ARM processors on Macs is a bad sign that they're going even more walled-garden. Of course their dream is to make the Mac app store the sole source of software on the Mac and get their 30% cut of everything. the first impetus was this thread the fiasco with the "hey!" email service. hey! is classic startup bullshit trash, but this is irrelevant to the meat of the matter: apple approved their app; it started to pick up steam. then apple turned around and said: you can't push updates, bugfixes until you give us 30% of your yearly subscription fee -- after it'd been around for a while, and the metrics proved there was money to be had. this sort of crap is, frankly, extortion. apple does invest a lot of effort into curating the app store, but not 30% worth. i'd be hard-pressed to argue for even 10. second, the switch to arm: on the one hand, i get it. x86 is legacy bloat. ARM has better performance, power usage, heat profile. apple is great at chip design. on the other hand, this will directly fuck a lot of people over, and, totally, it feeds directly into their walled-garden ambitions. people who just bought a new mac and spent $$ on Cinema4D and Vue and etc. are likely to shit bricks, because all of their different, incredibly expensive bits of software will become haphazard upgrade lurch where one package runs on mac ARM and another hasn't made the leap yet and they can either upgrade to ARM mac and have half their software run like shit or stick with their old one and have the other half not run at all. anyone who likes games on a mac is fucked; games are very x86 focused and the level of optimization does not lend itself to easy porting. heck, same for all the 3D software... and, yes, boot camp, kiss that goodbye and of course, as mentioned, they will use it to banhammer anyone not paying them 30%. microsoft must be dfgjkdfg, because they tried this with WinRT and it flopped. but hey spreadsheets will have better battery life at least |
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the third impetus was a running puzzle, about how humanity tends to separate into two pools: squeaky-clean fascism and hairy anarchy. i think it's just one of those personality sliders -- some people feel safer, calmer in the "everything i own is made by apple" bubble |
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meanwhile, all these fucking video services censoring stuff, messing with classics. HBO Max editing out all the guns from looney tunes. Disney+ was just in the news for censoring some other crap i'd probably not even watch... but, fuck you, we used to be able to just order a dvd off amazon without the legally-advised conscience of companies with ten-figure market caps. it feels like the fuckers are trying to rebuild cable tv, slowly, so no one notices. boiling a frog |
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One good effect Apple has had, with their intense focus on ergonomics is that it's shamed Microsoft so badly that Windows is usable now. I've been using Windows 10 lately, and it's... good?! It feels like using a Mac. windows has come a long way, to be sure -- performance, reliability... yes, even looks. but the same crap, the same attitude remains. windows will forcibly install updates and then not let you reboot the computer without applying them, and this is so it can say WELCOME TO THE NEW MICROSOFT EDGE and add icons all the fuck over, pin to the taskbar, the desktop, fire up edge and start harassing you to try it. sometimes, the updates break thousands of computers. your other options are to shut updates off entirely, or merely "delay" them for two weeks, or some shit. it used to be there was a "notify me when updates are ready to install" option, but, no, without this i could skip their fucking edge update bullshit, and we can't have that. at least apple doesn't do this shit |
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even behind the scenes, apple has begun throwing its weight around in the most obnoxious ways. like: if you have an app on the apple store, and you want to have a "sign in with google" button, you have to include "sign in with apple." your other options are to not have any 3rd-party sign-ins, or not be in the app store. this came up during some product metrics meeting, and i was confused. i was not the only one; the guy giving the presentation had to stop and explain it: yes, we have to include the apple shit, or not have any of this at all. or not be on the app store, an option no one even bothered to bring up there is more. getting rather fed up with the 800lb gorilla bullshit windows sucks, but at least the architecture underneath, PC, is open. that's why WinRT faceplanted; it's the one real strength of the platform that apple will never have |
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it feels like the fuckers are trying to rebuild cable tv, slowly, so no one notices. boiling a frog YES. I've been saying this since I got my first computer, a hand me down DOS piece of shit that I managed to get onto the internet with a dialup modem ISA card and Telix. "This is too good to be true, and the bastards will be trying to take it away from us," I felt from the beginning. I was reading some posts from Urs Heckmann, the guy behind U-he synth plugins, really the best software company I've ever dealt with in terms of product quality, updates and open communication with the customers. Anyhow he said that his entire code base is abstracted enough that porting it to ARM will not be the end of the world. I find that surprising because I thought most audio stuff was very dependent on SSE instructions. So it might go OK for some developers. But yeah it's the overall high handed attitude and squeezing both customers and devs that bothers me about Apple. Thanks for reminding me about the Windows update policy. I've been playing around with my wife's work Win 10 laptop that has automatic updates shut off so I haven't had to deal with it. I just noticed that it was a lot less painful to use Windows than I'd remembered. Everyone big in tech wants to hoover up money in the most freedom-destroying ways possible. I'd go back to Linux but I'm just too dependent on proprietary Mac and Win only apps. |
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So it might go OK for some developers. "OK" is still far from "seamless." yes, perhaps product XYZ is "not the end of the world" to port, but now, suddenly, you have two products where you had one, and your customer base is cleaved down the middle with both sides crabby over this bullshit already (circa: 2022). you have to have two separate build processes, two sets of tests, bugs occur in one but not both or bugs are specific to platform differences, have we trained call center support to prepare for ARM vs. x86 calls? so, effectively, it's nothing but pure hassle for developers. they will see no gains out of the transition. and please pay 30% for the privilege |
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Everyone big in tech wants to hoover up money in the most freedom-destroying ways possible. I'd go back to Linux but I'm just too dependent on proprietary Mac and Win only apps. no more like "Everyone big in tech wants to hoover up money just that freedom-destruction is a great way to hoover up money. I'd go back to Linux but I'm just too dependent on proprietary Mac and Win only apps. i made the leap in 2014. like windows, linux has come a long way. your network card has a driver, no bullshit. there's a proper library of games available, thanks to valve/steam.... but, yeah. for work, they gave me a windows laptop. i asked if i could install linux. after some mumbling noises, the eventual answer that came back was: "yes, sure, but support will not even give you the time of day, you're fucking on your own" and given the level of crap the VPN software requires, well, i just left windows on there. otherwise, i'd not have much of an opinion about it these days at all. i managed to avoid it almost entirely from 2014-18 ES. I've been saying this since I got my first computer, a hand me down DOS piece of shit that I managed to get onto the internet with a dialup modem ISA card and Telix. "This is too good to be true, and the bastards will be trying to take it away from us," I felt from the beginning. google "eternal september". that's more how i feel -- the internet was immediately great for me, and i was early on the boat, when it was still just a small collection of nerds. i feel like it's gradually been invaded by fucking idiots and corporate bullshit, and fuck you fuckers for fucking up the internet maybe it's more a mix. with tiktok app crap whatever, no one uses IRC anymore except the real heads. feels a bit more like it used to. as long as the basic infrastructure remains uncompromised, there will always be tubes too obscure for the dolts to find |
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like zilty. |
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I sympathize with Chomsky's frustration but Zizek deserves more credit than Chomsky gives him. I've read some really sharp, insightful pieces of writing from him, like his intro to Ben Burgis's book about Jordan Peterson, Myth and Mayhem. (see the book share link in my profile) |
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I was thinking about eternal september when I saw the other day. Grown ass men who play with junk food and talk like ADHD 6 year olds is an entire Youtube genre I was unaware of. I may end up dual booting Windows and Linux again. Sigh. |
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exactly. it dawned on me that, so long as i keep to places like XLT and not reddit, i actually have the bandwidth to host video on my own. things like youtube and reddit form a sliding pit of "it's easy, and people are there, so i'll use it." but you can still go to a bit more effort on your own, do it yourself, find somewhere a bit more quiet |
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yeah perhaps Chomsky was a bit uncharitable, but i more or less agree with the premise of his article |
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RE OP: You cannot escape the duality of humans, epic. Without the “other” there can be no identity of the self. It's how we are wired. imo apple are free to usr their own processors. Who's to say they have to keep paying intel for something they can do themselves. The more players there are in the space the better for everyone. And by the looks of it, they are trying to make that transition easier for everyone. I'm not their fanboy though. There's a lot of bullshit coming from that company, don't get me wrong. For me the two best looking laptops (I heart laptops) to come out the past while is the google pixel book go (which is very similar to my old 2010 compaq laptop - best ever) and the new msi ps 63 modern or now just modern 15 or whatever. I like my technology to be black as much as possible. |
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just read that the switch to arm means no more bootcamp, that sucks |
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RE OP: You cannot escape the duality of humans, epic. Without the “other” there can be no identity of the self. It's how we are wired. i am mostly made up of, perhaps, my parents, certain authors, teachers... i am a composite of dozens of people in a direct way, hundreds in a valent sense, and hundreds of thousands in a historical sense. my dad would say, "you're a gentleman and a scholar!" and then i was talking with someone about it, and his dad said it too, none of this would have the phrase if not for all our dads seeding it. so too with everything, a legacy that is sort of like genetics, but instead patterns of language and thot |
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*none of us |
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I'm not their fanboy though. There's a lot of bullshit coming from that company, don't get me wrong. For me the two best looking laptops (I heart laptops) to come out the past while is the google pixel book go (which is very similar to my old 2010 compaq laptop - best ever) and the new msi ps 63 modern or now just modern 15 or whatever. compaq has never made a good laptop, ever. they were shit from start to finish. i even remember laughing when they made servers in the 90s. msi, well, they're not as bad, but still definitely towards the budget end |
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ok, well, i take some of that back. the compaq portable II lunchbox computer; i was lucky enough to have one for a bit. that thing was dope |
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no, wait, the portable II was the "luggable" i had. i did have a proper "lunchbox" style one for a bit, but i don't think it was the portable III |
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yeah maybe,... |
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you're dead wrong about compaq laptops though. |
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thinkpad 4eva |
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26 minutes of those two? i couldn't do 26 seconds |
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i couldn't last 3, |
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ideapad 4afewyearz |
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tony. i told you nobody would care that you shared trash sources from max blumenthal here at xltronic. it was like it never happened. you can get things completely wrong and nobody is even going 2 notice. the people here at xltronic dont find those kinds of things morally dubious at all i told you it was gonna be just fine so you really didnt need to worry |
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my laptop history early 2000 hp goodness - that thing had ports and slots and all kinds of holes compaq amazingness - core duo beast, best keyboard ever, hands down, gtfo Lenovo ideapad with 660m - good gaming was had, bought from Taiwanese mafia boy classic MacBook Air (died from beer spillage) MacBook Pro laptops... idk why 🤷♂️ |
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i remember being ten and wanting a laptop so badly. looking through catalogs and seeing $3k, even $5k -- in the mid 90s's. it was to the extent that my dad actually did me a favor, once, and told work "oh i need a laptop for work during the family vacation in vermont" but, pretty much, i was the only one to use it. it was an NEC versa i've had a number of crappy ancient laptops from dumpster diving for lulz -- a 286 laptop the size of a small briefcase with a monochrome amber screen. it was utterly useless but beautiful. an original mac portable i accidentally exploded after setting a step-down transformer wrong (because i didn't have a power brick for it). spent ages with a really shitty 386 laptop, trying to get linux to boot off a parallel zip drive, totally defeating the point of a laptop -- it never worked anyways my first laptop that was actually somewhat current, also, thanks dad. at work, one of the dolts in sales closed the lid of a sony vaio when a pen was on the keyboard, destroying the right half of the screen. but, despite that, it was quite usable. i remember sitting on the couch in the den, ethernet cable connected to a dongle to a PCMCIA card, on IRC, thinking, "YEAH THIS IS OWSUM." this was approximately 2000 by 2002 or so, my work running banner FTP sites was paying off to the extent that i got to buy my first new laptop, a dell inspiron 8000. it was never the greatest laptop 2009 or so, i bought a thinkpad T500. still have it; it's my mp3 player for the living room. it's seen lots of use. i remember being on mushrooms and looking at it fondly and thinking how much we've been together and giving it a hug and telling it i love it then after that, laptops started to come in waves. the "craptop" which i got for free somewhere, with an SSD and linux it was actually a great second machine for watching movies and stuff from 2011-14 or so. an old thinkpad T42 a high school friend sent me because he didn't want it |
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these days, i have, perhaps, too many laptops. i think i still have the craptop somewhere. the T500, still in use. i have a macbook on a shelf someone gave me a consulting job. two thinkpads from work -- they just sent me a brand spanking new one thank you for tolerating my stupid overly long laptop ramble. |
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the craptop -- which i may still have -- is/was a toshiba satellite, actually one i'd remembered staring at in catalogs so i was stoked when i finally snagged one |
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O Rose thou art sick. The invisible worm, That flies in the night In the howling storm: Has found out thy bed Of crimson joy: And his dark secret love Does thy life destroy. |
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william blake innit |
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i prefer byron coleridge, i would have given him a riced out yugo account, mos def |
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actually, fuck, thinking about it, there is a bit of coleridge in this thred. the initial post, i had smoked some weed. then read an article about apple switching to ARM... and my brain is then compiling a whole bunch of disparate threds, i should write this up and -- shit, i lost it. fuck. what was it again? the trick, in these situations, is the sort of chaos-theory aspect to thot. with the same starting conditions, or close as you can, you will think the same thots as you did before. so, you think: what's the last part i do remember? but it was a very large structure of thought, and i couldn't quite dredge it up from the ending fragments i still had. so, i thot: i guess i have to think it all over again, and i did. i didn't just stream it out, though. there was a lot of revision involved. i haven't read throeau or emerson in many years, but i recall from high school that one of them would compulsively edit their work, and the other would just blast it out and click post. i liked the one that edited much more; probably was thoreau. myself, i do both. i blast out lots of stupid crap, but, when i'm serious, i do a lot of sculpting and editing before posting. this post is somewhere in between the seed of the thot was contemplating apple switching to arm. more walled garden, more fiefdom, more high-pressured tactics. with the juggernaut iFing has become, i'm suddenly having a vision of phone ecosystems expanded to running all of humanity. apple is a giant white egg inside of a vast and tangled forest. then i recall something jnasato posted, about demolition man and the two tribes and is this where it all ends for us? then i realize, there's more of this all around: some people open mail in their backyard to be safe; others deny 'rona exists. anyways, i started writing it up as i thot it (again), but it was too dfghjjkdfg, had to re-order, came up with the fifteen million merits analogy to save me a paragraph etc |
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and also remember thinking: there were some people on here that fucking hated black mirror, will this analogy put them off? will others have not seen it and not get it, thus puncturing my bouncy castle? in the end, i could not think of anything else that was anywhere near as efficient so i bit my lip and went with it |
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for anyone who's apt to get lost in thot, and have some of their best ideas after a good stretch of it, the experience of being tapped on the shoulder, snapping out of it, and losing the whole thing -- it becomes maddeningly familiar. i already knew it when i read kubla khan and found out about the story, and it still haunts me. i want to reach back through time and strangle whoever interrupted ol' sammy. you fucking dick as i got older, my level of passion w/rt the matter led to a breakthrough, which effectively boils down to, "what were you thinking before you thot it?" one thot leads to the next. so if i can get back the thot that launched the train of thot i've lost, i can run the train again, and get it back. with practice, you get much better at it, and start to have a more deliberate attitude towards reconstructing thots. hope this helps anyone daft as i. thank you for tolerating weasels |
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no worries, I enjoyed reading it I didn't include the laptops my dad had over the years. First laptop he ever brought home was a monochrome 386 - I remember being impressed by the speech on the three stooges game for dos (using the pc speaker) He also later had some Sony Vaios, which were all the rage and super cool. He would have an extra, which I would use when visiting my parents in the UK (b4 the divorce when they still lived there). That OG HP with all the slots papa gave me, but everything from then I bought. Perhaps that's why I love the compaq so much, it's the first computer I bought with my own money. Also that keyboard, fucking lush. And the minimal design. Still looks good to this day. Has Ubuntu on it now. |
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