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RussellDust
on 2019-09-16 20:55 [#02585373]
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In this day and era of conservatism and nationalism, I enjoy a clip of Stewart Lee, even if it’s six years old.
Who are our brexiteers here? I can only recall signeduptolol and umbroman3... maybe SteeveMcQueen (not sure how to read his recent posts).
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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2019-09-16 21:05 [#02585374]
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I don't know. I have foreign mates. I usually gravitated towards foreigners as mates in my past jobs. I don't mind if people speak in broken English. My great grandfather was Maltese and spoke broken English. I lived in Japan for six months and China for five years. Like, the other night I was out with a guy from Mexico and his Polish wife and her hot friend. Then I'm pretty good friends with this Hungarian guy, we have a lot in common, similar taste in music and stuff. It's usually the wavephace types that I try to avoid and have a phobia against.
Stewart Lee is a bitter guy, I can understand why people like him and agree with him. Comedy is really powerful at influencing people's political opinions. I was more into Peter Hitchens and William Lind. But now I don't give a fuck about trying to convince anyone to copy my views.I'd rather have mates than strongly held beliefs in anything in particular.
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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2019-09-16 21:06 [#02585375]
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We'll probably start our own union and ask fellow countries to join.
The differences will be: We won't be trying to form a new country. We won't be trying to create a new currency. We won't be trying to create a European army. We can base it on old English liberty and justice. It will be more democratic than the EU. It will be less kleptocratic than the EU. We will want free trade and so on. We can manage the borders to stop terrorists coming in.
The UK can pick off countries from the EU and have them hold
referendums on which union they prefer. A union of freedom under British style rules or a union of tyranny under Franco-German rules.
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RussellDust
on 2019-09-16 21:19 [#02585376]
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“Stewart Lee is a bitter guy”
But he’s clearly not. He has a persona onstage, yes, but often breaks out of character to explain to “the daily mail” what he’s actually trying to convey. I don’t doubt your intellect but generally people who see him as mean and bitter just don’t get him or don’t follow his sketches until the end. Like when he says he wishes Richard Hammond had died and that he hates him more than anyone dead, alive or from fiction.
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RussellDust
on 2019-09-16 21:21 [#02585377]
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I doubt you even watched the whole clip, because your mind is made up.
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RussellDust
on 2019-09-16 21:27 [#02585378]
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Like any of this could be, and was, taken out of context. It’s just lazy to do so and shows a lack of patience and insight.
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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2019-09-16 21:29 [#02585379]
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I used to watch him when I was a kid.I loved that childish stuff they did.Tomorrow with Richard not judy.
Daily Mail changed editor and has a remain editor, the owners are super rich remainers too. A lot of people don't know that.
I tend to prefer treating the free press as a whole unit. You have shit rags like the daily mail then you have shit rags like the guardian too. It's all good as a free press. I think freedom of the press is one of the cornerstones of British culture. There's good and trash in most of the papers. It's such a lazy trope to go "daily mail", "daily mail" like some kind of millennial zombie (I mean the English equivalents of wavephace). It's a newspaper that has to make money to survive. It goes against what you read in the BBC (official orthodoxy of liberalism or something). That makes the daily mail a friend of liberty, freedom, freedom of speech, freedom of the press, etc despite its flaws which are many.
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mermaidman
on 2019-09-16 21:34 [#02585380]
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lol wavephace is on your side umbroman why are you dissing wavephace
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RussellDust
on 2019-09-16 21:35 [#02585381]
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I don’t think it’s lazy to call out the daily mail, and calling out the daily mail doesn’t mean you praise everything the Guardian prints out...
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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2019-09-16 21:35 [#02585382]
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u wot m8?
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RussellDust
on 2019-09-16 21:37 [#02585383]
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And gosh, you’re young umbroman, if you watched Lee as a child. Never saw him as the childish type for children.
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RussellDust
on 2019-09-16 21:38 [#02585384]
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The Daily Mail is not a friend of Liberty... not in my views!
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RussellDust
on 2019-09-16 21:39 [#02585385]
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They write what they want, that’s about it!
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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2019-09-16 21:42 [#02585386]
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listening now
i like and respect gypsys (travellers), my mother worked in a hospital as a cleaner and she knew a guy who was seriously ill. when he died the family burned their super expensive caravan down as is part of their culture when the patriarch dies.
richard littlejohn and jan moir are cunts lol, i cant deny it
people enjoy comedy with a moral edge to it, even if that edge is leftist in nature. i guess it's satisfying to watch a guy rip someone apart on a moral level. i prefer harry hill, that guy who just tries to make you laugh without the morality edge to it. if you want to enjoy stewart lee thats fine by me lol.
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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2019-09-16 21:47 [#02585387]
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i mean,freedom of the press is essential to our liberty. that means newspapers that you dont agree with get to publish their views. contrast that with china where only state sponsored views are allowed and the web is heavily censored. if these stewart lee fans ever get power (like they do over wikipedia) they banned the daily mail as a source on wikipedia by the way. if they had power they would start banning newspapers like the daily mail.
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mermaidman
on 2019-09-16 21:49 [#02585388]
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i especially like the part where he says the uk can pick off countries from the eu lol
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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2019-09-16 21:51 [#02585389]
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it's inevitable. if we leave the EU we're starting our own union on our own terms.
and it will kick the arse of the EU morally, financially, in terms of free dom and high standards of living.
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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2019-09-16 21:53 [#02585390]
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and it will kick the arse of turkey
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mermaidman
on 2019-09-16 21:54 [#02585391]
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you can start a union in your room umbroman a "terrorist free" union
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mermaidman
on 2019-09-16 21:55 [#02585392]
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lol remember umbroman you have to align with the chosen jews though or god won't be on your side
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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2019-09-16 21:56 [#02585393]
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will leave it to boris and nigel
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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2019-09-16 21:57 [#02585394]
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im totally fucked in that regard, jews are hella strong and magic and stuff, people don't believe it, i wouldn't believe it myself if i wasnt going through it
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mermaidman
on 2019-09-16 22:00 [#02585398]
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i know i'm just reminding you. think about it uk union you pick who you want and plus you have the jews on your side
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mermaidman
on 2019-09-16 22:02 [#02585399]
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no muslims *cough* excuse me terrorists in your borders
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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2019-09-16 22:03 [#02585400]
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sounds pretty good to me
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belb
from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2019-09-16 22:06 [#02585401]
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just to let you know, stewart lee was the script editor for harry hill's first programme on channel 4, all 3 series i think
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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2019-09-16 22:09 [#02585402]
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Recruitment for Islam, I've had enough of it. It belongs in Saudi Arabia not the UK. We're sucking at the teet of the Saudis, and they respond by recruiting the English for Islam. If people want to follow the brutalities of the Prophet Mohamed they should leave the UK. If they don't follow him literally and can live in peace without proselytising and forced conversions then there isn't a problem. The majority in the UK don't want terrorists coming in.
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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2019-09-16 22:10 [#02585403]
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Well fuck me lol
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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2019-09-16 22:13 [#02585404]
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-m7dj7uK_uQ
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2019-09-16 22:14 [#02585406]
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LAZY_TITLE
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mermaidman
on 2019-09-16 22:21 [#02585407]
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yeah i know that's why you should kick every muslim out of your vip union
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mermaidman
on 2019-09-16 22:23 [#02585408]
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there could be a bouncer in the border ad he could check ids
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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2019-09-16 22:23 [#02585409]
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just the convert or die types who are currently thriving
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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2019-09-16 22:25 [#02585410]
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uk has a sea border, wouldn't be much hassle for us to patrol the borders and stop terrorists coming in. but the politicians are useless.
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2019-09-17 01:49 [#02585412]
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the only real complaint i have about immigrants is when they gum up the works due to cultural obliviousness in context of the subway or some shit. anyone who lives in the area for a year or two, well, they figure it out... but, until then, certain ethnicities are such a pain in the ass. africans and indians, i am looking at you
strangely enough, chinese immigrants don't jam up the subway -- they save all that for when they're driving a car
i guess it's not even about immigrants, just a general impatience, intolerance for slow people, and an almost autistic level of insistence that things run properly
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2019-09-17 01:56 [#02585413]
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you can often tell who came from bumfuck, third world country by the walk, in sort of the same way chicks who are girly-girls have a distinct sort of walk. girly-girl walk is a tightly-clenched sphincter. bumfuck, third world walk, on the other hand, is like a fistful of xanax. glacially slow, placid. everyone flows around you rapidly as you clog up the middle of the sidewalk
if i were president, i would require any immigrants without a degree to take classes on how to walk properly
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wavephace
from off the chain on 2019-09-17 02:16 [#02585415]
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I think a lot of xenophobes forget the huge GDP boost immigration provides. When I think of immigration I think of all the ways in which immigrants are extremely beneficial to The Economy. Xenophobes tend to dehumanize immigrants, but in fact immigrants are just as human as you and me. They do normal human stuff like buy food, buy alcohol, buy clothing, buy electronics, buy movie and event tickets, buy household goods, buy personal hygiene products, buy Funko Pop figurines, buy and rent property, buy and rent automobiles, ride public transit, consume fuel and electricity, subscribe to mobile phone services, subscribe to internet services, subscribe to media services, visit hospitals and clinics, attend institutes of higher education, take out loans, use credit cards, pay interest, etc. What's not to like?
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2019-09-17 02:28 [#02585416]
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my mom's parents came over from ireland. glad i support immigration... 'cos, if i didn't, i'd have to do some arduous mental gymnastics to justify my own place here. america was colonized. the original occupants of the land were subjected to medium-low genocide and then left to marinate in casino crockpots. it is only fitting that we be crushed by the same forces that formed us
no, nah. i think about it in engineering terms. GDP is a solid [data] point, but i would go broader -- think of it about an inflow of talent. talent will naturally lead to better economics. that america should dismiss anyone of talent who would like to move here, is absurd. it's part of what makes america a powerhouse in things like technology: someone is all, "oh, jeez, it's kind of difficult to launch a startup in [distressed place], i should emigrate to america and do it there because it won't be doomed." there are other wonderful countries out there, and such people will just go over there instead, and meanwhile, it won't change the refugee situation.
the refugee thing is quite a minefield. trump cut a lot of the aid that was a levy against the forces of bullshit in south america, and that tea kettle eventually began to whistle. is it america's job to lob money into another country's problems? no, not really -- but it is in our interests, and that's why we've been doing it. meanwhile, border towns are going through a lot of bullshit from both refugees and their own government and that's just unfair sux
there's no way to condense all this crap into a soundbite, and that's why we're fucked.
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Tony Danza
from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2019-09-17 12:41 [#02585430]
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Shaykh Trump's ban on Juul is a step towards Islamification of America, pushing young smokers toward shisha bars where they can take the Shahada under peer pressure.
Vote Bernie: Deus Vult
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Roger Wilco
from Mo's Beans on 2019-09-17 16:11 [#02585431]
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I only voted for Brexit because I didn't like David Cameron and I thought Remain would win. It was a protest vote that has returned to bite me in the arse.
I was thinking would I be more upset if I'd voted Remain and then lost, or suffer the shame of voting for Leave? I don't know, it's beyond me. Who allowed me to vote, a drunk monkey with a gun!?!?!??
I'm not anti-immigrant, I'm of Belgian and Irish stock, but I am against the Deification of the Immigrant. We have to recognise that for all the economic benefits and ooh Ethiopian Restaurants (the fucking irony) we do also import problems that must cost us a fortune (mainly Islam-related bullshit, African-related bullshit, black males weird super macho homo culture, Pakistani tribal politics).
In other news I am writing some porn fiction starring Shamima Begum.
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Cliff Glitchard
from DEEP DOWN INSIDE on 2019-09-17 17:29 [#02585435]
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I voted leave as I simply don't want to be a part of a united states of europe. I don't see the point in the the UK being in the EU, and would prefer a simple free trade agreement. I don't want the Euro, Schengen or freedom of movement, but that doesn't mean I disagree with european migration or even most of the EU's key values for its citizens.
I read an article just after the referendum result about london's foreign doctors and nurses that had allegedly seen a vast increase of racial hatred. One particular doctor said he had decided to move to Australia to get away from the anti migration sentiment in the UK, despite the Aussie immigration policy being the one promoted for us to adopt.
This whole thing has been a colossal fuck up from start to finish with what could have been simple if it wasn't for those meddling cunts in parliament.
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RussellDust
on 2019-09-17 17:48 [#02585441]
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Since the whole Brexit thing Cornwall police had felt a 60 odd per cent increase in hate crimes and racial slurs on black police. Clearly brexit Interested people like yourself, but also closet nationalist racists who feel more comfy now. Like you say “it’s a colossal fuck up”.
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RussellDust
on 2019-09-17 17:51 [#02585442]
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Important part of the vote, wether brexit is about this or not. I doubt that taking the racist nationalists scaredy-cats’ vote out of the equation this thread would exist. I appreciate your point of view, McQueen, and my fucking hell do i welcome a fresh perspective from a brexiteer!
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mermaidman
on 2019-09-17 19:22 [#02585454]
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what do u know about black males apart from sucking their dicks looooool
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mermaidman
on 2019-09-17 19:25 [#02585456]
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and u like aphex twin's music which u shouldn't actually because it's all african american u should go listen to some british white boy playing a violin or something
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Roger Wilco
from Mo's Beans on 2019-09-17 21:53 [#02585462]
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I like coffee but that doesn't mean I want to live with Brazilians. I like curry but I'm not about to up sticks to the fucking Hindu Kush.
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mermaidman
on 2019-09-17 22:25 [#02585463]
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yeah that's the kind of homo opinion i was expecting from you. you're not expected to live with anyone. they are not going to sleep on your couch. who the fuck are u to even give an opinion about which races you'd not prefer to live in a society with, u think everyone is so happy to live in a society in which a cunt like u exists
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Tony Danza
from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2019-09-17 22:56 [#02585464]
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Actually, Roger is required by the Immigrant Deification Laws to lodge at least four Eritreans. The bedsit must be packed - with Love! 🏳️🌈
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wavephace
from off the chain on 2019-09-17 23:28 [#02585465]
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Immigration is huge economic boon and if you don't agree you deserve to have immigrants sent to your town, as punishment!
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mermaidman
on 2019-09-17 23:34 [#02585466]
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what did the four eritreans do to deserve it though
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