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The 1st Robot Olympics Glasgow, 1990
 

offline steve mcqueen from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2019-08-30 01:32 [#02584447]
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loads of pics


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2019-08-30 01:54 [#02584451]
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a bit later than 1990, i went on a tour of the MIT Media
lab. they had all sorts of best-of-90s robots. the best was
one that simply moved around and avoided obstacles. it was a
few feet tall, and kinda quick, and the operator had to
sneak up behind it to switch it off because otherwise it
would detect an obstacle and dart away


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2019-08-30 02:09 [#02584452]
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LAZY_TITLE


 

offline steve mcqueen from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2019-08-30 02:11 [#02584454]
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that sounds a bit like a metaphor for what people think
'the singularity' will be


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2019-08-30 02:11 [#02584455]
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hehe


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2019-08-30 02:13 [#02584457]
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LAZY_TITLE


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2019-08-30 02:14 [#02584458]
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I wasn't sure about the technological singularity, seemed
like a buzz phrase, but the way AI seems to be moving you
have to admit it seems sort of plausible now


 

offline steve mcqueen from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2019-08-30 02:16 [#02584459]
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i swear i once saw an advert for Short Circuit which had
loads of different shaped robots like about 3 or 4, all sort
of waving saying hello type thing.


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2019-08-30 02:17 [#02584462]
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sounds like one of those dreams you have as a child, but it
was really real


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2019-08-30 02:18 [#02584463]
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I always watch it around Christmas


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2019-08-30 02:22 [#02584464]
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i know a guy who has genuine, strong empathy for robots. if
he sees someone treating a robot badly, his emotional
reaction is the same as if he'd witnessed a bunch of kids
kicking a homeless guy. he also has sexual feelings about
airplanes. once i thought about it, though, i could kind of
see it. sometimes i'll see a photo of a plane and think,
"oh, that's a cute plane" and send it to him. i'm not
attracted to planes or anything, but once he explaned his
thing to me, i realized i had an idea what he meant.


 

offline steve mcqueen from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2019-08-30 02:25 [#02584465]
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>>> but the way AI seems to be moving you
>>>> have to admit it seems sort of plausible now
Nope, it's a trick. Its applied statistics. At no point will
any of this stuff ever gain conciousness, or a 'life of its
own'. Anyone who tells you that it could is lying. Lol
weirdly my internet dropped out when i typed that
.


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2019-08-30 02:28 [#02584466]
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i googled aeromorphs, i saw a Messerschmitt with a pair of
yellow knickers on, the internet truly does contain some
oddness


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2019-08-30 02:29 [#02584467]
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oh yeah i knows its all balanced weights and not true
intelligence but it could accelerate technological
development just by sheer brute force power, especially if
they manage to get a quantum computer up and running but i
don't see that in my lifetime


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2019-08-30 02:30 [#02584468]
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we didn't get that into depth. it was more, like, once he'd
confided in me, i realized i really could tell whether a
plane was cute or not. but the same goes for any machine,
cuteness is sort of this abstract composite quantity innate
to humanity


 

offline mohamed on 2019-08-30 02:31 [#02584469]
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Tilt@#?!


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2019-08-30 02:32 [#02584470]
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ah ok, im guessing he probably doesn't think super guppies
are very sexy then


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2019-08-30 02:33 [#02584471]
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i've heard the first rule of cuteness in japanese culture is
you have a main character and a pet or something that's
exactly like the main character, but small and inept and...
cute


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2019-08-30 02:36 [#02584472]
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LAZY_TITLE

i could see it in a big-and-fumbly sense of cute


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2019-08-30 02:36 [#02584473]
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yeah that sort of thing the tweeness they have over there, I
don't really understand the appeal, it seems intrinsically
childish, perhaps its some sort of reaction to sternness
with which they conduct themselves in regular life, well the
stereotype



 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2019-08-30 02:37 [#02584474]
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having said that I do like those soot creatures in spirited
away


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2019-08-30 02:38 [#02584475]
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LAZY_TITLE

I regularly see this fly overhead as their is an airbus
factory in north wales, first time I saw it I was like
that's a strange plane


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2019-08-30 02:39 [#02584476]
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i guess i can break it down more crudely

cuteness has an air of immaturity. the japan thing, well,
it's like whatever character, but smaller, unspoiled, call
woody allen

hotness, on the other hand, is more about mature, fertile
adulthood.

cute and hot at the same time; the holy grail.


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2019-08-30 02:39 [#02584477]
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you mean my neighbor totoro?

(which is just riddled with japanese cute)


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2019-08-30 02:41 [#02584478]
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I like that one as well, LAZY_TITLE


 

offline mohamed on 2019-08-30 02:47 [#02584479]
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Do you like Antony Mason?


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2019-08-30 02:49 [#02584480]
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meanwhile


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2019-08-30 02:51 [#02584481]
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LAZY_TITLE


 

offline mohamed on 2019-08-30 02:51 [#02584482]
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You got stuff to tell the media


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2019-08-30 02:52 [#02584483]
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this is a heck of a thread


 

offline mohamed on 2019-08-30 02:55 [#02584484]
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Is your tongue purple? Tell us about the cuts.


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2019-08-30 02:59 [#02584485]
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is everything alright at home Mo, is Mya and your sister
alright?


 

offline mohamed on 2019-08-30 03:03 [#02584486]
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Kokojambo


 

offline belb from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2019-08-30 03:05 [#02584487]
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haha, imagine doing the voiceover work, i'd be in bits


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2019-08-30 03:07 [#02584488]
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I know, me too!


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2019-08-30 03:09 [#02584489]
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that's the code word for the president is doing a number 2


 

offline belb from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2019-08-30 03:10 [#02584490]
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?????


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2019-08-30 03:13 [#02584491]
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you googled it as well?


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2019-08-30 03:19 [#02584493]
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2009-10, mushrooms, i'm looking at my laptop and i feel
genuine love for it. sort of like how you look at your dog,
and feel it. it felt quite real, but also very confusing.
it's a laptop, jeez

but then i realized -- it is my laptop. i spend hours and
hours with it. it's customized. but, also, i am used to it.
i have adapted my style to its, just as i have its style to
mine.

selling off my synths in 2014 or so was terrible; feelings
like putting a bunch of pets down at once. unlike computers,
which are so general-purpose as to become a diffuse
experience aside from the hardware interface, proper
synthesizers all have their own unique personalities.

proper keyboards, alright -- there are tiers, as i see it.
there are arranger keyboards, which are like computers --
they all effectively can do the same things. software blends
it into a gestalt that stretches across all the offerings in
the tier; the mere hardware is what you forge a bond with.

something like the prophet vs, though -- yes, with enough
work, i could replicate most any sound it did on something
else, but its sonic personality made me turn to it before a
good many fings. enter-2, and it would generate a
pseudorandom patch. even the name of the patch was
randomized. after time, i realized that the patterns of
letters directly corresponded to the patch settings. i
suspect it is effectively a hash of the patch. you have X
number of theoretically possible random patches, and here is
random patch #nnn translated to an name with the 26 letters
of the alphabet. this realization only came after i started
to get a... feeling, a nudge, as to whether this random
patch was what i wanted or not. eventually, it reached a
point where i would repeatedly enter-2 until the pattern of
ascii on the 2-line LCD indicated i was close to what i
wanted. from there, it was just fine tuning.

not rubbing my dick on my gear or anything, but there is
something akin to love there after a while.


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2019-08-30 03:23 [#02584494]
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kokojambo


 

offline belb from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2019-08-30 03:24 [#02584495]
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nah somehow i knew it was coco not koko, old memory stirred
up. biohazard of an earworm, mo you monster


 

offline belb from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2019-08-30 03:25 [#02584497]
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maybe it's koko in italian?


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2019-08-30 03:26 [#02584498]
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Hugo De Garis ditched singularity discussion and went full
MGTOW, being a "political animal" who talks about "fluffy
feminists".


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2019-08-30 03:26 [#02584499]
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belb you seem to have eidetic memory powers for mid to late
90s chart music


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2019-08-30 03:33 [#02584500]
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De Garis believes that a major war before the end of the
21st century, resulting in billions of deaths, is almost
inevitable.[2]:234 Intelligent machines (or "artilects", a
shortened form of "artificial intellects") will be far more
intelligent than humans and will threaten to attain world
domination, resulting in a conflict between "Cosmists", who
support the artilects, and "Terrans", who oppose them (both
of these are terms of his invention). He describes this
conflict as a "gigadeath" war, reinforcing the point that
billions of people will be killed.[16][17] This scenario has
been criticised by other AI researchers, including Chris
Malcolm, who described it as "entertaining science fiction
horror stories which happen to have caught the attention of
the popular media".[18] Kevin Warwick called it a "hellish
nightmare, as portrayed in films such as the Terminator


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2019-08-30 03:33 [#02584501]
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according to some comedian myspace was hired to spam the
shit out of years back, "fluffy" is related to "fat" but
"fat" is not "fluffy"


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2019-08-30 03:34 [#02584502]
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hope he is wrong and machines evolve so rapidly they surpass
the idea of conquering the physical world and create
numerous simulations to explore instead


 

offline belb from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2019-08-30 03:36 [#02584503]
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hah it's true, i think 1997 is ground zero for my musical
knowledge. i'd just got a playstation so i could play cds
and i'd buy any music mag i could afford with a cd on. got
into speed garage and trance classics. my best mate in year
7 was heavily into bubblegum eurotrash so i imbibed a lot of
that too. it's all a bit of a hodgepodge in my brain


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2019-08-30 03:42 [#02584504]
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LAZY_TITLE


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2019-08-30 03:51 [#02584506]
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hackers (1995) was in theat(er|re)s. a friend was having a
birthday party, and everyone invited went to the movies. we
were both super into computers and obviously loved
the movie for that alone -- did i mention we were, like,
ten? -- but it was the first time in my life i'd ever heard
prodigy, underworld, anything like that. i went to sam goody
(lol) and bought a tape and a CD with the little money i
had. i wound up with radiohead's "ok computer" which was
utterly a letdown; not prodigy or underworld at all. then
the CD, some absolutely terrible drum 'n' bass compilation,
which i will not even do the credit of actually naming. even
then, i knew it was awful. later, i returned, and got the
hackers soundtrack on tape, and the "hackers 2" inspired by
album. this was, honestly, the only proper electronic
releases i had for years. everything else for five years was
videogame music, up through about original unreal
tournament.

other big moment was da year 2000. i was in high school, and
people were talking about "love line" with "adam corolla and
dr. drew" at school. so, i decided to listen to it, sort of
like a homework assignment, so i would have a clue what
people were on about. this lasted about two weeks.

during those two weeks, however, fatboy slim blew up in
america. rockefella skank; i heard it in between loveline
jawing. i recorded it on tape using a fischer-price walkman
i'd had since i was five. a few months later, dad yielded to
my requests for a cable modem, and rockefella skank was, i
think, the first mp3 i ever pirated.

later on, i ran a pirate FTP server, and i was introduced to
aphex when someone uploaded laughable butane bob and
bucephalis for the ratio credit

i've tangented, like usual. point being, seeing hackers in
the theat(re|er) in 1995 was definitely my ground zero for
electronic music knowledge


 


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