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a bit later than 1990, i went on a tour of the MIT Media lab. they had all sorts of best-of-90s robots. the best was one that simply moved around and avoided obstacles. it was a few feet tall, and kinda quick, and the operator had to sneak up behind it to switch it off because otherwise it would detect an obstacle and dart away |
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that sounds a bit like a metaphor for what people think 'the singularity' will be |
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hehe |
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I wasn't sure about the technological singularity, seemed like a buzz phrase, but the way AI seems to be moving you have to admit it seems sort of plausible now |
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i swear i once saw an advert for Short Circuit which had loads of different shaped robots like about 3 or 4, all sort of waving saying hello type thing. |
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sounds like one of those dreams you have as a child, but it was really real |
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I always watch it around Christmas |
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i know a guy who has genuine, strong empathy for robots. if he sees someone treating a robot badly, his emotional reaction is the same as if he'd witnessed a bunch of kids kicking a homeless guy. he also has sexual feelings about airplanes. once i thought about it, though, i could kind of see it. sometimes i'll see a photo of a plane and think, "oh, that's a cute plane" and send it to him. i'm not attracted to planes or anything, but once he explaned his thing to me, i realized i had an idea what he meant. |
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>>> but the way AI seems to be moving you >>>> have to admit it seems sort of plausible now Nope, it's a trick. Its applied statistics. At no point will any of this stuff ever gain conciousness, or a 'life of its own'. Anyone who tells you that it could is lying. Lol weirdly my internet dropped out when i typed that |
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i googled aeromorphs, i saw a Messerschmitt with a pair of yellow knickers on, the internet truly does contain some oddness |
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oh yeah i knows its all balanced weights and not true intelligence but it could accelerate technological development just by sheer brute force power, especially if they manage to get a quantum computer up and running but i don't see that in my lifetime |
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we didn't get that into depth. it was more, like, once he'd confided in me, i realized i really could tell whether a plane was cute or not. but the same goes for any machine, cuteness is sort of this abstract composite quantity innate to humanity |
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Tilt@#?! |
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ah ok, im guessing he probably doesn't think super guppies are very sexy then |
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i've heard the first rule of cuteness in japanese culture is you have a main character and a pet or something that's exactly like the main character, but small and inept and... cute |
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i could see it in a big-and-fumbly sense of cute |
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yeah that sort of thing the tweeness they have over there, I don't really understand the appeal, it seems intrinsically childish, perhaps its some sort of reaction to sternness with which they conduct themselves in regular life, well the stereotype |
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having said that I do like those soot creatures in spirited away |
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I regularly see this fly overhead as their is an airbus factory in north wales, first time I saw it I was like that's a strange plane |
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i guess i can break it down more crudely cuteness has an air of immaturity. the japan thing, well, it's like whatever character, but smaller, unspoiled, call woody allen hotness, on the other hand, is more about mature, fertile adulthood. cute and hot at the same time; the holy grail. |
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you mean my neighbor totoro? (which is just riddled with japanese cute) |
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I like that one as well, |
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Do you like Antony Mason? |
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You got stuff to tell the media |
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this is a heck of a thread |
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Is your tongue purple? Tell us about the cuts. |
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is everything alright at home Mo, is Mya and your sister alright? |
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Kokojambo |
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haha, imagine doing the voiceover work, i'd be in bits |
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I know, me too! |
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that's the code word for the president is doing a number 2 |
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you googled it as well? |
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2009-10, mushrooms, i'm looking at my laptop and i feel genuine love for it. sort of like how you look at your dog, and feel it. it felt quite real, but also very confusing. it's a laptop, jeez but then i realized -- it is my laptop. i spend hours and hours with it. it's customized. but, also, i am used to it. i have adapted my style to its, just as i have its style to mine. selling off my synths in 2014 or so was terrible; feelings like putting a bunch of pets down at once. unlike computers, which are so general-purpose as to become a diffuse experience aside from the hardware interface, proper synthesizers all have their own unique personalities. proper keyboards, alright -- there are tiers, as i see it. there are arranger keyboards, which are like computers -- they all effectively can do the same things. software blends it into a gestalt that stretches across all the offerings in the tier; the mere hardware is what you forge a bond with. something like the prophet vs, though -- yes, with enough work, i could replicate most any sound it did on something else, but its sonic personality made me turn to it before a good many fings. enter-2, and it would generate a pseudorandom patch. even the name of the patch was randomized. after time, i realized that the patterns of letters directly corresponded to the patch settings. i suspect it is effectively a hash of the patch. you have X number of theoretically possible random patches, and here is random patch #nnn translated to an name with the 26 letters of the alphabet. this realization only came after i started to get a... feeling, a nudge, as to whether this random patch was what i wanted or not. eventually, it reached a point where i would repeatedly enter-2 until the pattern of ascii on the 2-line LCD indicated i was close to what i wanted. from there, it was just fine tuning. not rubbing my dick on my gear or anything, but there is something akin to love there after a while. |
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kokojambo |
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nah somehow i knew it was coco not koko, old memory stirred up. biohazard of an earworm, mo you monster |
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maybe it's koko in italian? |
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Hugo De Garis ditched singularity discussion and went full MGTOW, being a "political animal" who talks about "fluffy feminists". |
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belb you seem to have eidetic memory powers for mid to late 90s chart music |
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De Garis believes that a major war before the end of the 21st century, resulting in billions of deaths, is almost inevitable.[2]:234 Intelligent machines (or "artilects", a shortened form of "artificial intellects") will be far more intelligent than humans and will threaten to attain world domination, resulting in a conflict between "Cosmists", who support the artilects, and "Terrans", who oppose them (both of these are terms of his invention). He describes this conflict as a "gigadeath" war, reinforcing the point that billions of people will be killed.[16][17] This scenario has been criticised by other AI researchers, including Chris Malcolm, who described it as "entertaining science fiction horror stories which happen to have caught the attention of the popular media".[18] Kevin Warwick called it a "hellish nightmare, as portrayed in films such as the Terminator |
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according to some comedian myspace was hired to spam the shit out of years back, "fluffy" is related to "fat" but "fat" is not "fluffy" |
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hope he is wrong and machines evolve so rapidly they surpass the idea of conquering the physical world and create numerous simulations to explore instead |
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hah it's true, i think 1997 is ground zero for my musical knowledge. i'd just got a playstation so i could play cds and i'd buy any music mag i could afford with a cd on. got into speed garage and trance classics. my best mate in year 7 was heavily into bubblegum eurotrash so i imbibed a lot of that too. it's all a bit of a hodgepodge in my brain |
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hackers (1995) was in theat(er|re)s. a friend was having a birthday party, and everyone invited went to the movies. we were both super into computers and obviously loved the movie for that alone -- did i mention we were, like, ten? -- but it was the first time in my life i'd ever heard prodigy, underworld, anything like that. i went to sam goody (lol) and bought a tape and a CD with the little money i had. i wound up with radiohead's "ok computer" which was utterly a letdown; not prodigy or underworld at all. then the CD, some absolutely terrible drum 'n' bass compilation, which i will not even do the credit of actually naming. even then, i knew it was awful. later, i returned, and got the hackers soundtrack on tape, and the "hackers 2" inspired by album. this was, honestly, the only proper electronic releases i had for years. everything else for five years was videogame music, up through about original unreal tournament. other big moment was da year 2000. i was in high school, and people were talking about "love line" with "adam corolla and dr. drew" at school. so, i decided to listen to it, sort of like a homework assignment, so i would have a clue what people were on about. this lasted about two weeks. during those two weeks, however, fatboy slim blew up in america. rockefella skank; i heard it in between loveline jawing. i recorded it on tape using a fischer-price walkman i'd had since i was five. a few months later, dad yielded to my requests for a cable modem, and rockefella skank was, i think, the first mp3 i ever pirated. later on, i ran a pirate FTP server, and i was introduced to aphex when someone uploaded laughable butane bob and bucephalis for the ratio credit i've tangented, like usual. point being, seeing hackers in the theat(re|er) in 1995 was definitely my ground zero for electronic music knowledge |
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