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offline umbroman3 from United Kingdom on 2019-04-12 21:45 [#02574344]
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In b4 wot will the hollywood movie b like?


 

offline Monoid from one source all things depend on 2019-04-12 22:24 [#02574348]
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I just don't care


 

offline Zephyr Twin from ΔΔΔ on 2019-04-12 22:25 [#02574349]
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You know that expression, "don't bite the hand that feeds
you"? It's being reported here (on NPR in the US) that he
was continuing to leak documents despite a condition of his
asylum being to sever his ties with wikileaks - which he had
not done and which had been overlooked until he began
leaking documents about Moreno. To echo Hype's sentiments,
who even knows if that's true but it's a plausible reason
why Ecuador would kick him out of the embassy now.

It's a very sobering and chilling read, what Chomsky said
(thanks, Tony). I'm inclined to want to protect whistle
blowers but I admit I had, over the past few years, bought
into a narrative that he was becoming unhinged and was ready
to say "fuck that alt-right troll". But literal shit on the
walls begins to look like yellow journalism when I take a
step back. And there's more at stake here than my personal
feelings on one white-haired Aussie.

Steve, they say history is written by the historians (and
not "the victors"), but anyone can be a "historian" in the
post-facts era. When one controlled narrative is codified as
"the whole truth" what does it matter what future
generations will remember when we've already forgotten? The
post-facts era is the post-history era.


 

offline mermaidman on 2019-04-12 23:07 [#02574350]
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and what if he wipes his shit on the walls what does it have
to do withanything


 

offline AMPI MAX from United Kingdom on 2019-04-12 23:28 [#02574351]
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steve + hyperflake. when the media got stuck into rumours
about david cameron fucking a pigs head did you talk this
stuff about yellow journalism?


 

offline dariusgriffin from cool on 2019-04-12 23:45 [#02574355]
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noam chomsky the free speech cuck


 

offline AMPI MAX from United Kingdom on 2019-04-12 23:49 [#02574356]
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u hate chomsky?
i told these people that chomsky is shit and irrelevant and
a liar but they refuse to listen to me - they dont like to
read anything


 

offline steve mcqueen from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2019-04-12 23:50 [#02574357]
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>>> steve + hyperflake. when the media got stuck into
rumours
>>> about david cameron fucking a pigs head did you talk
this
>>> stuff about yellow journalism?
Yes I did.


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2019-04-12 23:52 [#02574358]
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No probably not cos im a not infallible and I have biases
and sometimes I can be a hypocritical sometimes, plus he
definitely stuck his cock in a pigs mouth hehe


 

offline steve mcqueen from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2019-04-12 23:53 [#02574359]
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It's just that it didn't have quite the *purchase* that it
has now, for obvious reasons.


 

offline steve mcqueen from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2019-04-12 23:56 [#02574360]
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ha,not heard this 4 a while
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offline steve mcqueen from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2019-04-13 00:01 [#02574361]
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my favorite flavor of gas is mustard
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offline steve mcqueen from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2019-04-13 00:04 [#02574362]
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^


 

offline steve mcqueen from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2019-04-13 00:07 [#02574363]
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may aswelll romanticise things i think


 

offline AMPI MAX from United Kingdom on 2019-04-13 00:08 [#02574364]
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steve and hyper ok ok thats fair enough


 

offline AMPI MAX from United Kingdom on 2019-04-13 00:08 [#02574365]
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have either of you read much about what assange did with
belarus?


 

offline dariusgriffin from cool on 2019-04-13 02:44 [#02574370]
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he's alright sometimes but yeah i'm not the biggest fan
he's probably better at linguistics

the chomsky-foucault debate is fun tho, good battle of
sophistry and i think i remember chomsky repping people's
tribunals (to be fair it was 1971)


 

offline dariusgriffin from cool on 2019-04-13 02:49 [#02574371]
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also shitsmearing assange and pigfucking cameron are both
very funny

anyway i don't much care for assange but free chelsea
manning you fucks


 

offline Chodi from 1337V1773 on 2019-04-15 05:59 [#02574518]
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69


 

offline AMPI MAX from United Kingdom on 2019-04-17 00:01 [#02574741]
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yeah i agree its just funny


 

offline AMPI MAX from United Kingdom on 2019-04-17 00:02 [#02574742]
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none of you know what wikileaks did to belarus?


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2019-04-17 00:03 [#02574743]
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WikiLeaks was a kremlin operation by the end wasn't it


 

offline AMPI MAX from United Kingdom on 2019-04-17 00:10 [#02574745]
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not exactly it just always was a radical organization that
from the beginning didnt care about betraying innocent
people as long as it hurt 'hegemonic' systems like america.
russia likes to help out those sorts of projects.



 

offline AMPI MAX from United Kingdom on 2019-04-17 00:11 [#02574746]
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read about the belarus thing guys. please. tried to tell you
all about it like 5 years ago and none of u cared


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2019-04-17 00:14 [#02574748]
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I think by the end though they were pretty much doing the
kremlins bidding, hence why they never leaked anything
detrimental to Putin, they would have put polonium on his
skateboard


 

offline AMPI MAX from United Kingdom on 2019-04-17 19:49 [#02574900]
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not by the end. at the beginning assange was bad.

belarus


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2019-04-17 19:56 [#02574903]
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ah ok, yeah dubious behaviour all around


 

offline AMPI MAX from United Kingdom on 2019-04-17 22:39 [#02574919]
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im glad u maybe read it hyperflake. but things are sad for
me.
every year i hope people will move closer to the light and
yet here we are

chomsky
tony benn
yellow journalism

guess this kind of thing dosnt stop it just goes on and on
without qualification..


 

offline Tony Danza from not today, satan on 2019-04-18 13:27 [#02574945]
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Assange is a slimebag who's been used as a cutout by state
actors who want particular damaging materials circulated.
And that Israel Shamir guy is much, much worse, I googled
around and found his website, he's one of those creepy kooky
Jews for Jesus guys, like Brother Nathanael, who endorses
Protocols of the Elders of Zion antisemitism. I felt like
bleaching my computer after seeing his website.

However none of this changes the basic truth of Chomsky's
point:

The efforts to silence a journalist who was producing
materials that people in power didn’t want the rascal
multitude to know about—OK?—that’s basically what
happened. WikiLeaks was producing things that people ought
to know about those in power. People in power don’t like
that, so therefore we have to silence it. OK? This is the
kind of thing, the kind of scandal, that takes place,
unfortunately, over and over.


Do you think this much effort would be expended apprehending
Assange if he'd been exactly the same person but hadn't been
"producing materials that people in power didn’t want the
rascal multitude to know about"?

In any case Assange has been superseded and obsoleted.
Tremendously damaging and important peeks into power and
money like the panama papers, paradise papers, and so forth
have been coming out without Wikileaks' involvement.


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2019-04-18 19:25 [#02574990]
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