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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2019-03-05 01:03 [#02570659]
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trying a bit too hard
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2019-03-05 17:31 [#02570682]
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did somebody just wristled
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RussellDust
on 2019-03-05 18:31 [#02570685]
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“Sorry but this content is not available in your region”
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RussellDust
on 2019-03-05 18:31 [#02570686]
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Trying too hard but staying local.
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2019-03-05 23:23 [#02570736]
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yeah, i bloody hate their web site. i hate most news web sites... autoplaying videos that follow you after you hurriedly scroll away from the visual chatter, overlays bothering you to sign up, shut off ad-block, would you like to share your location? please? we want to make money
because i hate their site, i actually tried to rip the video off of it in order to post here... but, it wasn't trivial. i gave up; just linked their full site. i thought: well, they got what they wanted
go figure the region block cocks it up. fine, they can keep it... only linked it because it was so terrible it was funny! no big loss here. mods in training please lock thread
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2019-03-05 23:29 [#02570737]
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yeah I hate having to play find the tab
the tab that just played some annoying music at 30 decibels louder than the youtube music vid you were just listening too
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2019-03-05 23:33 [#02570738]
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literally just happened now
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2019-03-06 00:08 [#02570739]
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i am reasonably sure the culprit here is sites wanting to rack up view-counts: 17k views! wow! buy ads on our site! people watch our videos aaallll ddaaaayy
so of course they start the video immediately, have it chase you around, make it hard to close 'em -- because if you watch more than 1/2 the vid, that counts as a whole view for their ad statistics
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2019-03-06 00:12 [#02570740]
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now, here i am, trying to specifically link one of their stupid videos, and it is verboten. irony
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2019-03-06 00:14 [#02570741]
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it's especially obnoxious on mobile with data plan limits.
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2019-03-06 00:18 [#02570742]
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those vids are always 3/4 of the way down the page for maximum irritation
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2019-03-06 00:32 [#02570746]
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people who want to disable the videos obviously get quicker at it over time... so, you have to develop new ways to temporarily confound these adapting internet folk long enough for it to register as a full view
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2019-03-06 03:12 [#02570758]
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what's really missing is a properly isolated payment structure for news. if you sanely throw cable tv under the bus, what are you left with? ...the stupid fucking corporate silos of google, or apple, which are you? google news? apple news? google news apps? apple news apps? both companies carry an incredible amount of legal baggage that more or less precludes them from being uninhibited voices.
i don't really have a good answer. what i'd really prefer is some sort of paypal-esque, microtransaction service so i could just split up $20/mo amongst the news sources i deem most owsum.
sadly, i do not see that happening. i'm just expected to pick apple, or google, and new york times, or new york post, and pay $2 a month for each decision
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2019-03-06 03:35 [#02570759]
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i'll run with this -- a theoretical business model i deeply hope someone undertakes, but for which i do not personally have the stomach for.
you sign on at a tier level. $20/mo, $50/mo, $100/mo. you are committed to that charge on your valid credit card religiously. for that whole amount, however, you set percentages to the news source providers, this business model's other clients. you can view anything on the entire network, ad-free, whether you allocate them funds or not.
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2019-03-06 03:48 [#02570760]
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complications ~
i suppose it would make sense to force people to divide the funds amonst N providers, to keep them from just paying fox news 100%. the value for N is up for debate. 5 is probably too hard. 3 is probably about right. perhaps you offer fringe benefits for more nuanced dispersal of funds
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2019-03-06 03:49 [#02570761]
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a facebook like button to farm out the opinion on moment-to-moment basis? nay; too volatile to clickfarming
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2019-03-06 04:03 [#02570762]
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in general, i feel like/dislike is a shallow, doomed model. i figure this should go over well enough on a board full of people who appreciate the analog vs. digital debate, no matter which side of it you're on. the real future riches involve weighting the the value of things relative to each other rather than a ranked yes/no tally for every stupid thing.
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2019-03-06 05:00 [#02570765]
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i dunno, i suppose i also am pre-supposing that the organization running this all is genuinely independent; perhaps this whole concept is fucked.
the bottom line is this -- news does have to be payed for, somehow, or it will eternally be the equivalent of buzzfeed. the basic problem is how do we pay the right people to serve us proper information instead of viral clickbait?
nothing's perfect. perhaps clarify that "pick-three" specification: one major provider, one mid-tier provider, one scrappy startup. some sort of bonus for splitting it all up amongst smaller sources?
but, again, how do you decide what's a source? if it's too small, you're just watching a pewdiepie vid, and we're no better than where we started.
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