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offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2019-03-05 01:03 [#02570659]
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trying a bit too hard


 

offline mohamed on 2019-03-05 17:31 [#02570682]
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did somebody just wristled


 

offline RussellDust on 2019-03-05 18:31 [#02570685]
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“Sorry but this content is not available in your region”


 

offline RussellDust on 2019-03-05 18:31 [#02570686]
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Trying too hard but staying local.


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2019-03-05 23:23 [#02570736]
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yeah, i bloody hate their web site. i hate most news web
sites... autoplaying videos that follow you after you
hurriedly scroll away from the visual chatter, overlays
bothering you to sign up, shut off ad-block, would you like
to share your location? please? we want to make money

because i hate their site, i actually tried to rip the video
off of it in order to post here... but, it wasn't trivial. i
gave up; just linked their full site. i thought: well, they
got what they wanted

go figure the region block cocks it up. fine, they can keep
it... only linked it because it was so terrible it was
funny! no big loss here. mods in training please lock thread


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2019-03-05 23:29 [#02570737]
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yeah I hate having to play find the tab

the tab that just played some annoying music at 30 decibels
louder than the youtube music vid you were just listening
too


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2019-03-05 23:33 [#02570738]
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literally just happened now


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2019-03-06 00:08 [#02570739]
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i am reasonably sure the culprit here is sites wanting to
rack up view-counts: 17k views! wow! buy ads on our site!
people watch our videos aaallll ddaaaayy

so of course they start the video immediately, have it chase
you around, make it hard to close 'em -- because if you
watch more than 1/2 the vid, that counts as a whole view for
their ad statistics


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2019-03-06 00:12 [#02570740]
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now, here i am, trying to specifically link one of their
stupid videos, and it is verboten. irony


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2019-03-06 00:14 [#02570741]
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it's especially obnoxious on mobile with data plan limits.


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2019-03-06 00:18 [#02570742]
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those vids are always 3/4 of the way down the page for
maximum irritation


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2019-03-06 00:32 [#02570746]
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people who want to disable the videos obviously get quicker
at it over time... so, you have to develop new ways to
temporarily confound these adapting internet folk long
enough for it to register as a full view


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2019-03-06 03:12 [#02570758]
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what's really missing is a properly isolated payment
structure for news. if you sanely throw cable tv under the
bus, what are you left with? ...the stupid fucking corporate
silos of google, or apple, which are you? google news? apple
news? google news apps? apple news apps? both companies
carry an incredible amount of legal baggage that more or
less precludes them from being uninhibited voices.

i don't really have a good answer. what i'd really prefer is
some sort of paypal-esque, microtransaction service so i
could just split up $20/mo amongst the news sources i deem
most owsum.

sadly, i do not see that happening. i'm just expected to
pick apple, or google, and new york times, or new york post,
and pay $2 a month for each decision


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2019-03-06 03:35 [#02570759]
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i'll run with this -- a theoretical business model i deeply
hope someone undertakes, but for which i do not personally
have the stomach for.

you sign on at a tier level. $20/mo, $50/mo, $100/mo. you
are committed to that charge on your valid credit card
religiously. for that whole amount, however, you set
percentages to the news source providers, this business
model's other clients. you can view anything on the entire
network, ad-free, whether you allocate them funds or not.


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2019-03-06 03:48 [#02570760]
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complications ~

i suppose it would make sense to force people to divide the
funds amonst N providers, to keep them from just paying fox
news 100%. the value for N is up for debate. 5 is probably
too hard. 3 is probably about right. perhaps you offer
fringe benefits for more nuanced dispersal of funds


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2019-03-06 03:49 [#02570761]
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a facebook like button to farm out the opinion on
moment-to-moment basis? nay; too volatile to clickfarming


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2019-03-06 04:03 [#02570762]
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in general, i feel like/dislike is a shallow, doomed model.
i figure this should go over well enough on a board full of
people who appreciate the analog vs. digital debate, no
matter which side of it you're on. the real future riches
involve weighting the the value of things relative to each
other rather than a ranked yes/no tally for every stupid
thing.


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2019-03-06 05:00 [#02570765]
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i dunno, i suppose i also am pre-supposing that the
organization running this all is genuinely independent;
perhaps this whole concept is fucked.

the bottom line is this -- news does have to be payed for,
somehow, or it will eternally be the equivalent of buzzfeed.
the basic problem is how do we pay the right people to serve
us proper information instead of viral clickbait?

nothing's perfect. perhaps clarify that "pick-three"
specification: one major provider, one mid-tier provider,
one scrappy startup. some sort of bonus for splitting it all
up amongst smaller sources?

but, again, how do you decide what's a source? if it's too
small, you're just watching a pewdiepie vid, and we're no
better than where we started.


 


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