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How often do you give? I used to give when I was younger but now I don't. Mostly because they're high on spice. Begging is getting out of control. |
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Here we have community help. So I never give to the homeless: doing so will only keep them away from real durable help. |
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I don't give them anything. Too many professionals. Easter Europeans see us as fucking mugs. |
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Eastern* Eastern Europeans see us as mugs, and if anything, are more to blame for Brexit than any doddery old Daily Mail reader. |
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outside tescos is like a homeless shelter, you can tell we have a tory government. If a homeless person asked me to buy them a warm drink in the cold id consider it, usually the are looking for some change to go into bargain booze or buy spice or whatnot. |
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Being homeless is one thing. Pitching up your mattress, sitting on your arse with your legs outstretched, outside M&S, is another matter. |
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I tell you who bankroll these fucking chancers. Middle aged, middle class women. It's always the fucking same, listen to the well rehearsed sob story, hand over £20 which you can easily afford, and then have a guiltless week being fucking appalling and useless. |
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every time i'm asked, cos i've actually been homeless. you lot sound like soft shite middle englanders, sorry to say |
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how'd you know they're high on spice, btw? this is coming from a 30g a week smoker, when it was legal and regulated not the even dodgier shit they have now |
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the totally catatonic state gives it away, don't get me wrong I have a lot of sympathy for homeless people, its naïve to think I couldn't end up in that situation myself because of a quirk of fate. |
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seems 95% of the problem is down to inadequate mental health facilities |
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Funny you could afford that but not housing. |
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the ones smoking the most spice are likely the ones with a solid tolerance, it's only those who can barely afford to smoke once a day that get smashed off it. it's not got the worst withdrawal but it does come with a tolerance. anyway the high only lasts an hour at most assuming it's similar to what i was smoking, that couple of quid we can all afford can be the difference between okish and miserable in withdrawal with nothing to eat |
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it wasn't a case of affording it, there was simply nowhere available. i spent 2 1/2 years in a homeless hostel checking the listings every day |
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lucky you for having a legal addiction |
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id just rather give them something that was a necessity rather than a short term fix, |
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i thought you'd only "consider it"? even then it'd just be a cup of tea, what exactly are you ummimg and ahhing over? |
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depends on how I was asked, if someone said I really need a warm drink mate its freezing of course I would. |
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If I saw someone in physical discomfort id try to help |
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If they're not lying I usually give the first one change, maybe the second too. If they're one of the liars I call them out on it and tell them to try the routine on someone else. |
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in the big cities seems they have an issue with gang controlled professional beggars, don't get them so much round here |
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Sorry, I am just saying the worst thing that comes into my mind. What the fuck is "spice"? |
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synthetic weed |
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i give em some change most the time. i dont care if they are using it on drugs or anything. why would i. does the problem get solved somehow by them having no money and having to suck dick or rob people instead...dont really get it |
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its your money do what you want with it |
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i don't either i hate btw that i feel guilty when i give *and* when i don't give here they have the 'homeless paper': i do buy those from them. it's a good initiative. |
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there mostly crazy ppl there cuz they got rid of the loony bins cuz its inhumane to provide a persons basic needs when theyre 2 messed in the head 2 do it themselves i guess throwing ppl in2 the street is a more compassionate solution |
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i mean unless you think these ppl are just gonna say 'looks like i cant get any drugs today - might as well go straight now' psychosis withdrawl + flashbacks of horrible things theyve seen and done... eating tinned peaches in abandoned stairwell under a blanket seeing visions and vomiting... id rather give over 50p no problem. hope he has a top day. |
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sry hyperflake that was not a reply to you |
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no probs |
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Be honest, give most of these people a home and after day one they'd have "re-decorated" it with their own faeces, sold all the furnishings for drugs and kicked their own front door in because they also sold the key for drugs. |
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this guy is great, he was homeless and drug addicted for 20 years we shouldn't forget that these are real people, some are addicted, some have mental problems, some never had a real family of course when there is a system that helps people on the street, some people use it for their benefit. that happens with every system. and I generally think there is around 10% of asshole everywhere, in every class to put all homeless people in one pot is plain stupid. and to just give money to people that "look" homeless is also horrible, because it puts people to their place and makes them play their role i had to deal with the jobcenter in germany, its horrible. so, i can understand even though people can get support, it doesnt mean they are lazy parasites if they don't |
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some people* (who don't deserve it) in every class* (or any group people) |
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great link man, thanks for that |
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ure welcome |
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the first vid i saw on there was that 21yo from cardiff, talking about getting macdonalds shit from people and nothing else, having no money for simple things like a toothbrush, just walking and walking all day. i managed to get in a hostel quite quick but he's been out for 3wk, probably for the first time and just gets spat on in the street, heartbreaking |
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i drive for uber a bunch and i see the beggars a lot. they camp out at particular intersections. i always wondered -- do they fight over those spots? take shifts? picking up citizens, the beggars come up in conversation, on occasion. a few people in the know have marked a particular apartment complex as where a bunch of them live with their huge drug habit and from there they all crawl out and hit the streets to get money for drugs. personally, i see it as a nuisance. i have no hate for these people. they're just part of the cityscape, really... the waltz of avoiding eye contact or whatever is reliably annoying, but whatever, let them hang out their and bum change. however, there's one guy who walks around with his little dog on a leash trying to actively engage people in order to more effectively bum change, and he is fucking obnoxious. he can fuck off then there are the half-back, half-latino tweens who try to bum change for the fuck of it in between checking their fones all in all, i prefer the old black cat who hustles trying to wash windows. at least he's offering a service. i am broke as shit and i spend my change on food. i can't even afford a drug habit |
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i agree drugs being an amplifier for mental problems, but the equation sometimes is not drugs to poverty Dan, i never heard about a cocaine addict that ended up on the street all the time i hadnt a home, and also when i did |
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i know a cocaine addict who got a heavy psychosis and was on the street for a while. then in a mental hospital. he was a nice guy before all of that. in between he called some of my friends threatening to kill them |
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im more inclined to believe a version where the guy callled your friends to be helped, and went nuts because he was answered no. |
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mohamed @ 2018-06-15 09:23 you missed one Fuck Buddy request |
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its a long story. he never had a problem with me, i wanted to visit him in the mental hospital but he kinda escaped from there and nobody knew where he was. he had a problem with his close buddies, because they got kinda famous with what they were doing, but the didn't. he never asked for help and never talked about his problems. but, yeah. his closer friends should have helped him more, thats true |
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such is friendship my friend |
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im against the professional beggars as well, some romas have more showy nikes than mine these days, but oppose the vision of homelessness as a fault as well. kinda like throwing stones at jesus christ while walking the golgotha. |
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as depicted by BBC Wales. It’s like taking a picture of the visible part of an iceberg because “look, it’s so big!”. |
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Probably an art performance. |
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i've yet to see a positive report on spice, which is pretty bogus. people wouldn't take it if it wasn't pleasurable in some way, and there's a whole slew of substances, strengths and individual tolerances at play. mind you i wouldn't go back to smoking it now, i turn into a bit of a drug pig if i have them around |
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not read that article on spice, but i presume they don't miss the part about it being basically entirely profit, for the people who sell it. Buy the chemicals from china, mix it in a cement mixer full of pot purri, sell it in wraps of last weeks newspapers to homeless people for basically inf% profit. Been going on for years, and the cops do little, and the papers say fuck all. Why don't they have a little frenzy about that stuff then? |
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Once again, the interesting thing is not that this goes on, but rather that it doesn't get the response one might expect. |
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i don't know what it is but the beggars have been particularly aggressive in the last few days. multiple dudes actually waving and trying to get me to roll down the window rather than just standing there politely with their signs. it's right irritating when i'm trying to keep an eye on the traffic lights |
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