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Homeless people and beggars
 

offline umbroman3 from United Kingdom on 2018-06-12 19:05 [#02554024]
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How often do you give? I used to give when I was younger
but now I don't. Mostly because they're high on spice.
Begging is getting out of control.


 

offline -crazone from smashing acid over and over on 2018-06-12 19:43 [#02554025]
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Here we have community help. So I never give to the
homeless: doing so will only keep them away from real
durable help.


 

offline SignedUpToLOL from Zuckuss fanfiction (United Kingdom) on 2018-06-12 19:44 [#02554026]
Points: 2535 Status: Regular



I don't give them anything. Too many professionals. Easter
Europeans see us as fucking mugs.


 

offline SignedUpToLOL from Zuckuss fanfiction (United Kingdom) on 2018-06-12 19:45 [#02554027]
Points: 2535 Status: Regular



Eastern* Eastern Europeans see us as mugs, and if anything,
are more to blame for Brexit than any doddery old Daily Mail
reader.


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-06-12 20:07 [#02554028]
Points: 19651 Status: Regular



outside tescos is like a homeless shelter, you can tell we
have a tory government. If a homeless person asked me to buy
them a warm drink in the cold id consider it, usually the
are looking for some change to go into bargain booze or buy
spice or whatnot.


 

offline SignedUpToLOL from Zuckuss fanfiction (United Kingdom) on 2018-06-12 20:25 [#02554032]
Points: 2535 Status: Regular | Followup to Hyperflake: #02554028



Being homeless is one thing. Pitching up your mattress,
sitting on your arse with your legs outstretched, outside
M&S, is another matter.


 

offline SignedUpToLOL from Zuckuss fanfiction (United Kingdom) on 2018-06-12 20:27 [#02554033]
Points: 2535 Status: Regular



I tell you who bankroll these fucking chancers. Middle aged,
middle class women. It's always the fucking same, listen to
the well rehearsed sob story, hand over £20 which you can
easily afford, and then have a guiltless week being fucking
appalling and useless.


 

offline belb from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2018-06-12 20:29 [#02554034]
Points: 2757 Status: Regular



every time i'm asked, cos i've actually been
homeless
. you lot sound like soft shite middle
englanders, sorry to say


 

offline belb from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2018-06-12 20:34 [#02554035]
Points: 2757 Status: Regular



how'd you know they're high on spice, btw? this is coming
from a 30g a week smoker, when it was legal and regulated
not the even dodgier shit they have now


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-06-12 20:44 [#02554037]
Points: 19651 Status: Regular | Followup to belb: #02554035



the totally catatonic state gives it away, don't get me
wrong I have a lot of sympathy for homeless people, its
naïve to think I couldn't end up in that situation myself
because of a quirk of fate.


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-06-12 20:46 [#02554038]
Points: 19651 Status: Regular



seems 95% of the problem is down to inadequate mental health
facilities


 

offline SignedUpToLOL from Zuckuss fanfiction (United Kingdom) on 2018-06-12 20:51 [#02554039]
Points: 2535 Status: Regular



Funny you could afford that but not housing.


 

offline belb from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2018-06-12 21:03 [#02554041]
Points: 2757 Status: Regular | Followup to Hyperflake: #02554037



the ones smoking the most spice are likely the ones with a
solid tolerance, it's only those who can barely afford to
smoke once a day that get smashed off it. it's not got the
worst withdrawal but it does come with a tolerance. anyway
the high only lasts an hour at most assuming it's similar to
what i was smoking, that couple of quid we can all afford
can be the difference between okish and miserable in
withdrawal with nothing to eat


 

offline belb from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2018-06-12 21:07 [#02554042]
Points: 2757 Status: Regular | Followup to SignedUpToLOL: #02554039



it wasn't a case of affording it, there was simply nowhere
available. i spent 2 1/2 years in a homeless hostel checking
the listings every day


 

offline belb from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2018-06-12 21:08 [#02554043]
Points: 2757 Status: Regular



lucky you for having a legal addiction


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-06-12 21:09 [#02554044]
Points: 19651 Status: Regular | Followup to belb: #02554041



id just rather give them something that was a necessity
rather than a short term fix,


 

offline belb from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2018-06-12 21:14 [#02554045]
Points: 2757 Status: Regular | Followup to Hyperflake: #02554044



i thought you'd only "consider it"? even then it'd just be a
cup of tea, what exactly are you ummimg and ahhing over?


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-06-12 21:23 [#02554046]
Points: 19651 Status: Regular | Followup to belb: #02554045



depends on how I was asked, if someone said I really need a
warm drink mate its freezing of course I would.


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-06-12 21:23 [#02554047]
Points: 19651 Status: Regular



If I saw someone in physical discomfort id try to help


 

offline Indeksical from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2018-06-12 21:26 [#02554048]
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If they're not lying I usually give the first one change,
maybe the second too. If they're one of the liars I call
them out on it and tell them to try the routine on someone
else.


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-06-12 21:28 [#02554049]
Points: 19651 Status: Regular



in the big cities seems they have an issue with gang
controlled professional beggars, don't get them so much
round here


 

offline SignedUpToLOL from Zuckuss fanfiction (United Kingdom) on 2018-06-12 21:39 [#02554050]
Points: 2535 Status: Regular



Sorry, I am just saying the worst thing that comes into my
mind.

What the fuck is "spice"?


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-06-12 21:44 [#02554051]
Points: 19651 Status: Regular | Followup to SignedUpToLOL: #02554050



synthetic weed


 

offline AMPI MAX from United Kingdom on 2018-06-12 22:31 [#02554053]
Points: 10140 Status: Regular



i give em some change most the time. i dont care if they are
using it on drugs or anything. why would i. does the problem
get solved somehow by them having no money and having to
suck dick or rob people instead...dont really get it


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-06-12 22:57 [#02554054]
Points: 19651 Status: Regular | Followup to AMPI MAX: #02554053



its your money do what you want with it


 

offline big from lsg on 2018-06-12 23:02 [#02554055]
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i don't either

i hate btw that i feel guilty when i give *and* when i don't
give

here they have the 'homeless paper': i do buy those from
them. it's a good initiative.


 

offline wavephace from OFFICIAL xlt mod-in-training on 2018-06-12 23:12 [#02554058]
Points: 2297 Status: Regular



there mostly crazy ppl there cuz they got rid of the loony
bins cuz its inhumane to provide a persons basic needs when
theyre 2 messed in the head 2 do it themselves i guess
throwing ppl in2 the street is a more compassionate solution


 

offline AMPI MAX from United Kingdom on 2018-06-12 23:28 [#02554059]
Points: 10140 Status: Regular | Followup to Hyperflake: #02554054



i mean unless you think these ppl are just gonna say 'looks
like i cant get any drugs today - might as well go straight
now'
psychosis withdrawl + flashbacks of horrible things theyve
seen and done...
eating tinned peaches in abandoned stairwell under a blanket
seeing visions and vomiting...

id rather give over 50p no problem. hope he has a top day.



 

offline AMPI MAX from United Kingdom on 2018-06-12 23:30 [#02554060]
Points: 10140 Status: Regular



sry hyperflake that was not a reply to you


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-06-12 23:46 [#02554061]
Points: 19651 Status: Regular | Followup to AMPI MAX: #02554060



no probs


 

offline SignedUpToLOL from Zuckuss fanfiction (United Kingdom) on 2018-06-13 07:26 [#02554068]
Points: 2535 Status: Regular | Followup to AMPI MAX: #02554059



Be honest, give most of these people a home and after day
one they'd have "re-decorated" it with their own faeces,
sold all the furnishings for drugs and kicked their own
front door in because they also sold the key for drugs.


 

offline DADONCK from here on 2018-06-13 15:38 [#02554071]
Points: 1075 Status: Regular



this guy is great, he was homeless and drug addicted for 20
years

LAZY_TITLE

we shouldn't forget that these are real people, some are
addicted, some have mental problems, some never had a real
family

of course when there is a system that helps people on the
street, some people use it for their benefit. that happens
with every system. and I generally think there is around 10%
of asshole everywhere, in every class

to put all homeless people in one pot is plain stupid. and
to just give money to people that "look" homeless is also
horrible, because it puts people to their place and makes
them play their role

i had to deal with the jobcenter in germany, its horrible.
so, i can understand even though people can get support, it
doesnt mean they are lazy parasites if they don't


 

offline DADONCK from here on 2018-06-13 15:52 [#02554072]
Points: 1075 Status: Regular



some people*
(who don't deserve it)

in every class*
(or any group people)



 

offline belb from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2018-06-13 16:26 [#02554073]
Points: 2757 Status: Regular | Followup to DADONCK: #02554071



great link man, thanks for that


 

offline DADONCK from here on 2018-06-14 01:00 [#02554110]
Points: 1075 Status: Regular



ure welcome


 

offline belb from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2018-06-14 01:20 [#02554115]
Points: 2757 Status: Regular



the first vid i saw on there was that 21yo from cardiff,
talking about getting macdonalds shit from people and
nothing else, having no money for simple things like a
toothbrush, just walking and walking all day. i managed to
get in a hostel quite quick but he's been out for 3wk,
probably for the first time and just gets spat on in the
street, heartbreaking


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2018-06-14 05:46 [#02554135]
Points: 9564 Status: Regular



i drive for uber a bunch and i see the beggars a lot. they
camp out at particular intersections. i always wondered --
do they fight over those spots? take shifts?

picking up citizens, the beggars come up in conversation, on
occasion. a few people in the know have marked a particular
apartment complex as where a bunch of them live with their
huge drug habit and from there they all crawl out and hit
the streets to get money for drugs.

personally, i see it as a nuisance. i have no hate for these
people. they're just part of the cityscape, really... the
waltz of avoiding eye contact or whatever is reliably
annoying, but whatever, let them hang out their and bum
change.

however, there's one guy who walks around with his little
dog on a leash trying to actively engage people in order to
more effectively bum change, and he is fucking obnoxious. he
can fuck off

then there are the half-back, half-latino tweens who try to
bum change for the fuck of it in between checking their
fones

all in all, i prefer the old black cat who hustles trying to
wash windows. at least he's offering a service. i am broke
as shit and i spend my change on food. i can't even afford a
drug habit


 

offline mohamed on 2018-06-14 20:20 [#02554189]
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i agree drugs being an amplifier for mental problems, but
the equation sometimes is not drugs to poverty Dan, i never
heard about a cocaine addict that ended up on the street all
the time i hadnt a home, and also when i did


 

offline DADONCK from here on 2018-06-14 23:45 [#02554194]
Points: 1075 Status: Regular



i know a cocaine addict who got a heavy psychosis and was on
the street for a while. then in a mental hospital. he was a
nice guy before all of that. in between he called some of my
friends threatening to kill them


 

offline mohamed on 2018-06-15 04:38 [#02554201]
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im more inclined to believe a version where the guy callled
your friends to be helped, and went nuts because he was
answered no.


 

offline SignedUpToLOL from Zuckuss fanfiction (United Kingdom) on 2018-06-15 10:32 [#02554202]
Points: 2535 Status: Regular



mohamed @ 2018-06-15 09:23 you missed one Fuck Buddy
request



 

offline DADONCK from here on 2018-06-15 14:51 [#02554207]
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its a long story. he never had a problem with me, i wanted
to visit him in the mental hospital but he kinda escaped
from there and nobody knew where he was. he had a problem
with his close buddies, because they got kinda famous with
what they were doing, but the didn't. he never asked for
help and never talked about his problems. but, yeah. his
closer friends should have helped him more, thats true


 

offline mohamed on 2018-06-15 20:16 [#02554277]
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such is friendship my friend


 

offline mohamed on 2018-06-15 20:51 [#02554278]
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im against the professional beggars as well, some romas have
more showy nikes than mine these days, but oppose the vision
of homelessness as a fault as well. kinda like throwing
stones at jesus christ while walking the golgotha.


 

offline RussellDust on 2018-06-16 18:13 [#02554332]
Points: 10988 Status: Addict



Spice as depicted by BBC Wales. It’s like taking
a picture of the visible part of an iceberg because “look,
it’s so big!”.


 

offline RussellDust on 2018-06-16 18:13 [#02554333]
Points: 10988 Status: Addict



Probably an art performance.


 

offline belb from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2018-06-16 18:56 [#02554376]
Points: 2757 Status: Regular



i've yet to see a positive report on spice, which is pretty
bogus. people wouldn't take it if it wasn't pleasurable in
some way, and there's a whole slew of substances, strengths
and individual tolerances at play. mind you i wouldn't go
back to smoking it now, i turn into a bit of a drug pig if i
have them around


 

offline steve mcqueen from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2018-06-22 20:40 [#02554871]
Points: 3749 Status: Regular | Followup to RussellDust: #02554332



not read that article on spice, but i presume they don't
miss the part about it being basically entirely profit, for
the people who sell it. Buy the chemicals from china, mix it
in a cement mixer full of pot purri, sell it in wraps of
last weeks newspapers to homeless people for basically inf%
profit. Been going on for years, and the cops do little, and
the papers say fuck all. Why don't they have a little frenzy
about that stuff then?


 

offline steve mcqueen from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2018-06-22 20:42 [#02554872]
Points: 3749 Status: Regular



Once again, the interesting thing is not that this goes on,
but rather that it doesn't get the response one might
expect.


 


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