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Favourite Red Dwarf episode? something about the Alien franchise, magic, sound effects, and computer games. Something obscure; a YouTube video. Thoughts on the global conspiracy there is with food atm, freqy? Monsanto are a right nightmare (A conspiracy actually worth noting, I’m not taking the piss; Monsanto are fucking scary) aren’t they? With a few others they really are at the top of the food pyramid. Anyway. Did you both enjoy Brittas’ Empire? What are your top three favourite comedy series? Name one meal you love! Why aren’t you listening to the NTS Sessions? Is Aphex the best there is? Ok, go! On a more serious note. If there was a thread dedicated to you two, chatting and swapping videos and talking about random stuff, joking around, I’d actually read it! |
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I love spaghetti carbonara with some grated parmesan |
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I used to love the brittas empire when it was on but I think that's just cos I liked chris barrie |
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When are you and freqy gonna start a YouTube show like Cygnus and fah? |
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yeah like wise, when I was young it was decent humour, I'm sure its aged particular well but as a kid I liked it |
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so that's it huh, we're some kinda For fr_qy and hyp_rflak_ thread |
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hyperflap hyperflap hyperflap hyperflap hyperflap |
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I don't like my username you know |
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mine suits me perfectly |
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yes i think it does |
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favourite red dwarf episode is probably D.N.A but there are half a dozen others or more I could choose, but that's the one that springs to mind |
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freqy = morrissey |
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the independent had a real go at Morrissey I heard |
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its sad I like the smiths and bona drag but he is like a really bad parody of himself over the last 20 years, he should be working in the red cross selling hot water bottles to the elderly |
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Forgive me if I don't join the "he said Halal's evil, god he's so racist" crowd. |
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he is spot on with that, I think a lot of what he says just isn't politically correct so people crucify him, it doesn't help he comes across as an insufferable prat, he is right about halal slaughter it is inhumane |
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I was at that gig he got a pint thrown over him, the truculent fool |
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Why aren’t you listening to the NTS Sessions? Is Aphex the best there is? I will, and yes in a subjective sense for me he is yes |
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Pardon me if I’m not part of the crowd that condones killing animals, stripping them of their freedom for our bellies, and says “halal is bad”. |
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They could at least stun them first I reckon, I think my personal feeling is that concessions shouldn't be made for any religious group when it comes to things like that |
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It seems a shame that we had the renaissance, scientific progress etc and we have to acquiesce to frankly backwards ideas. Do Muslim majority countries make cultural concessions to other religions, I doubt they do, but I wouldn't expect them too either |
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It’s gone to shit now. I agree. Originally it was so you assumed killing the animal, looking it in the eye so to speak. You couldn’t eat an animal if it died of natural causes, you couldn’t push your flock off a cliff. You had to do it yourself if you were to eat it. Obviously that’s completely lost on them now. |
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I assume if I was to start slitting animal throats for a bbq the RSPCA would come around and I would summarily be up in front of a judge the next day. Its weird how that all can be circumvented by saying my esoteric beliefs allow the law to make an exception. Its ludicrous really. |
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I don't mean to come across as strident sorry, Its like how those mega churches get tax breaks in America same thing, or how sheiks can wear ceremonial daggers, its all irrational |
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What is ludicrous is eating animals, and yet having a sense of outrage at animals being mistreated. You seem to think that the meat you eat comes from humanely killed animals. That such a thing exists. Even if people think them being shocked is pretty ok. But what about the life most of these animals had before that? And is taking away a life ok if it’s “humanely done”? We strip them of their dignity and force them to live a horrible life before we off them. Some slaughterhouses are what I would call hell. Mostly, cows live in fields, sure, as do sheep. But it’s not like they can happily live with their offspring. It’s still below zoo standards, and a lot of zoos are horrible. Luckily the dynamic is changing with zoos and they’re focusing a lot more on preserving. Aaaaanyway. I don’t judge people who eat meat, I ate meat for 36 years and still love the taste. I just believe people are living in a fantasy world regarding the issue, comforting themselves that it’s all “ok” so they can have their burgers. What I don’t really don’t understand is those that “love” animals and “respect” life and are shocked at the animal cruelty videos on FB, and who will chat about it, casually, at McDonalds. People should be honest and admit that for them some animals deserve to die (for pleasure of eating meat) and others don’t. Kill your own animal and eat it (i don’t mean pet)! That’s basically what early scriptures were saying. You have to fully assume what you’re eating. Today I’m sure at least 50% of meat eaters couldn’t kill an animal, and 20% believe it’s grown or made. |
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I don't want to argue but I respectfully disagree |
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Not that I don't think there is something inherently unsavoury about eating sentient animals, I'm just making the distinction between slitting their throat and letting them bleed out rather than rendering them unconscious before hand, I think as long as animals are going to be eaten en masse and I don't see it ending any time soon, I think even if its a small amount in the reduction of suffering I think its worth it. |
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Ah I’m not sure i understand. Is this a “we kill better than them, they’re savages” type of thing? Whatevs, I’ve had my say. I wonder if freckles will purposely ignore this thread! XD |
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And you have plummeted in my esteem for you has plummeted. You think I’m defending ways of killing animals? I’m saying you shouldn’t! God help me. |
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Lol |
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And how can you disagree that it’s perverse not to want to kill an animal, to put living things in a sort of hierarchy, to be sensitive about the issue, and yet to eat animals? I’m glad you assume your consumption. At least that’s something I can’t argue with. I’ve mentioned earlier I don’t hate or judge meat eaters. I’m not an activist. I am surprised at the fact I made like 5 points and you disagree with the lot, all because what is on your mind is “humane killing”. |
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Just one question I’d love someone to answer: is it right to think so,e animals deserve to die and others don’t. Like, some species are just better than others. Anyway it’s in our genes to be carnivorous. And meat is a drug. |
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Addicts! Ok I’m out of here! :P |
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Fuck that’s a lot of posts in a row. But Dan assumes killing animals and will gladly say he’s not all emotional about “cute calves”, or a squirrel being crushed by a woman for expensive porn. He’s like “they taste great, fuck em really”. And THAT I admire and fully appreciate. |
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it's wild that morrissey is alt right now |
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he just hates humanity |
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also he had cancer |
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great points dusty. i did type a load but it got too long. humans are genetically suited to plant based diets. and this slaughter method is just another example of our values being eroded. If people feel they need to eat meat, then stunning should be used in respcet to the animal. if efficient stunning was available thousands of years ago they would have used it then for the animal. Although some counties do whip and antagonise and skin the animals alive in front of the other animals as they (mammals) scream in pain to bring adrenaline into the flesh. I think morrissey had something to say about this. but got shouted down for his choice of words. Also you don’t need to eat meat to be a mslim. the animals should be treated very well indeed and loved not branded but perhaps electronically tagged. not harmed. They should be like pets. stroked and hugged, so they are not scared. They are mammals like you and i, but cannot speak, they feel love and happiness, fear and physical pain. |
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I feel he’s always been the butt of some joke. |
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bad news, guys: someone told morrissey that kosher slaughter is the same as halal slaughter and he's become Nazi |
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That’s a lol! |
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No more “take me home, tonight, take me anywhere I don’t care, but first can we stop for a kebab?” Take (away) me home. |
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I think we have an unhealthy relationship with food, from the way it's fetishised and instagrammed, to mass-produced, mechanically-reclaimed slurry. It's ALL wrong. Some bearded cunt piously making it even worse slitting an animal's throat whilst some other bearded cunt warbles in arabic just makes it worse. Animals that I'm alright with being killed for food; Fish Seafood Chicken Whatever hot dogs are made of. |
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That would be dog. |
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I never said they were savages, all I was saying was that their is a incremental improvement in ethics throughout history, universal suffrage, abolition of slavery, civil rights, gay rights, so on and so forth. I just giving exceptions on a religious basis is retrograde in nature. Its like sharia councils why do we need them, its regressive. That's the paradox of liberalism it is self defeating in the end and it allows practices that undermine itself. In regards to animals ethics id be happier if no animals were slaughtered what so ever |
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Makes sense I suppose. |
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You said you disagreed respectfully. I was thinking that maybe you thought I was defending halal killings, which I wasn’t. :P |
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sorry, no I think we have been talking cross purposes, its my fault really, I was tired, I saw the massive reply you sent and just assumed it was a rebuttal to what I was saying. |
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