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not to be a Morrissey apologist but I imagine he hates how they treat animals |
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Chinese are very clever, high IQs. and rather beautiful people Im sure he only meant in regards to animal treatment skining dogs alive in front of other dogs to frighten them to make them more tender and tasty. and so forth. |
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I don't think any of this will stop me listening to the smiths anyway just like I read some literature from the turn of the century that wouldn't pass the PC seal of approval nowadays |
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yeah unbelievably cruel, I don't think I could visit there considering how the treat their own populace as well. Tiananmen square was much worse than media let on |
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What would you do Freqy if you were paid a million quid to play a private gig for an arab sheik, would you accept and give most of the proceeds to animal charities or not go for ethical reasons at all? |
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well, there you go. I'm fed up of answering this type of stuff, in this way, its risky because it seems people could get upset, just to defend animals. its so ridiculous. if god is in all things, we need to make sure animals are treated better than they are now. |
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well I cant argue with that, I love animals. |
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well, why do you pay others to abuse them? |
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come on that's a bit unfair, I know its hypocritical to eat meat and profess that I love animals, I try not to eat red meat, and I do keep my meat eating to a minimum, |
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Unfair of me to ask why the double standards? |
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no not that, but to suggest I directly pay people to abuse animals, perhaps it is a consequence of my actions, perhaps its because I'm distant from it, I just end up with something in a package, I'm sure if I ever went to an abattoir id never eat meat again |
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I don’t think it’s a fault hyperflake has, at least not alone, it’s society in general. I don’t understand either. But like you said it’s a touchy subject and I don’t want to lose friends just because they eat meat. |
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I'm sure there are things we all do that contribute to the collective suffering, like if you drive you pollute the air, or if you don't recycle etc.. Perhaps I will go totally meat free at some point, I don't have any good reason why I eat it really |
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Do it! Not that you should need to. Anyway glad to see you two rambling away, in your very own thread. I hope it’s beats the Aphex store one! It’s sunny, things are shit for me, but my mood is good. I’m sorry if I can be quite opinionated with you two, but I hope you realise I don’t want us to fall out, and am glad different minds and different views can still actually get along. Also maybe feeling sick constantly means sometimes I’m a bit stroppy! But generally, more or less always, and even when I disagree or write a block of text, I’m calm and quite happy to disagree or vent without any negative feelings at work. Bare in mind I’m not an angry person. Us three in a pub would be interesting, and fun. I need signeduptolol to tell me I’m going a bit lala today. New ae! |
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your soul and logical mind know the truth, the main stream programming adverts , convenience holds you back. I rarely talk of this on here. but.. if you buy meat eggs milk from shops in the uk you fund abuse. its not so much the death that is the issue, these animals are better off dead. its the life they live and the pain they endure. I cant handle horror films. but if you can, you might make it through to the end. |
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That was a reply to you visiting an abbatoir. I’m not here to entice you into stopping meat though, just happy to have spoken my mind and that you were gracious enough to read it all! |
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I don't want to fall out either, id hate to be in a conversation where everyone is mindlessly agreeing with everything ive said. Mainly its out of laziness that I still eat chicken, my gf does the shopping and I cook what she asks me too. Freqy has a point about double standards, but isn't literally everyone hypocritical in some sense, its a human traits ive noticed a lot. |
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yes I agree with the battery eggs, luckily we get our eggs from claremont farm |
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I deffo could make more ethical choices with shopping, it wouldn't be that hard to be vegetarian, vegan I think I would struggle with |
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I remember when a vegan guy won 15 to 1 and wouldn't accept the prize of leather bound encyclopaedias |
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before I met my gf all I ever ate meat wise was fish fingers and fish cakes |
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“Freqy has a point about double standards” I guess me taking the time to tell you the same last night didn’t have the same effect. I think I’ll read what I wrote again because I’m sure I’m mentioned the double standard you speak of a few times. I guess I should have just said “double standards” XD |
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Everyone in my family eats meat, and all my friends. Imagine how sad it’d be for me if I held a grudge? It’d just be a nightmare in my head and I’d become bitter, and angry. I’d probably obsess over it too. |
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fact is ive been conditioned to have an omnivorous diet my own life, if your a vegetarian where I am from usually you thought of (Wrongly) awkward or possibly pretentious, every gathering I go to meat is served, and ethical concerns are not raised. I didn't have the advantages of a middle class, informed upbringing where I was served cous cous for tea, ive had to figure stuff out for myself in relative isolation. |
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I wasnt referring to you by the way Russell, just life in general |
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Yes gf confirmed we do get true free range eggs from the farm, they come in xl size because old hens lay them, sometimes you get double yokers |
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These last few posts would be very easy for LOL to take the piss out of |
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Because honestly I’ve not had a middle class upbringing, and chose to stop eating meat not too long ago. Also you can’t really blame what you’re saying is a “lack of education” because you were poor. That’s not how I see things. Plenty of middle class bigots, and plenty of great thinkers or artists that were from poor, if not terrible backgrounds. |
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well I cant use it as crutch in adult hood no, but growing up ethics with food was the furthest thing from my mind |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tybugI5CkIs |
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Same! And that goes for most people my age! |
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i was brought up with bacon eggs milk in cereal. no one in my family is even vegetarian |
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neither did they use midi. |
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bans vegetarian cheese and meat labelling, because it’s “misleading to consumers”. Now that’s really taking people for idiots. |
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What, this “vegetarian meat” I was buying has not meat in it? No dairy in vegan cheese? My disappointment is immeasurable, and my day is ruined. |
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Meat as flesh is a false claim. Meat meant 'food in general' thousands of years ago in the bible. |
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i beleieve bread meant 'food in general' too "give us this day our daily bread" did not mean hovis or crusty loaf. it meant nutrient dense food. vegetables fruit, fish and so forth. |
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, this story is getting more and more nuts! Smallville actress in court for sex trafficking! |
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never heard of her, but sounds rather messed up dusty. |
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