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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2017-08-17 18:24 [#02528734]
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ensoniq keyboards have polyphonic aftertouch
Ensoniq EPS/EPS-16+/ASR-10/SQ-80/VFX/TS10.
dadonck, what do you think dude?
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2017-08-21 12:02 [#02529208]
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he doesnt think
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mermaidman
on 2017-08-21 13:05 [#02529214]
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i have thought about buying an asr-10. i could actually wait another month and buy one. it would be a great master keyboard. it has great effects. but i don't know how i'd use it for it's intended use. i sure would sample sounds and record them to the computer. how long can they sample anyway? but i first have to buy an audio interface. i'm still using the onboard soundcard. so that's where my money has to go first.
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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2017-08-21 13:36 [#02529216]
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polyphonic aftertouch, want it so bad
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DADONCK
from here on 2017-08-21 16:36 [#02529218]
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the ensoniq stuff is great! EPS/EPS16/ASR10 also have internal tuning tables
read here: http://www.huygens-fokker.org/scala/
i have polyphonic aftertouch with my QuNexus but never really used it with a synth
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DADONCK
from here on 2017-08-21 16:37 [#02529219]
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i would like more gear talk!
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DADONCK
from here on 2017-08-21 16:40 [#02529220]
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umbroman3, u got me pretty close to buying a Yamaha pss 380 just for noodling around. i actually don't have much more space for stuff but im close to buying one of these "toys"
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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2017-08-21 16:50 [#02529221]
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that looks really good dadonck layered 2 op, almost 4 op with sliders for control that looks better than my pss 780
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DADONCK
from here on 2017-08-21 17:00 [#02529222]
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here is the best info i could find about it: LAZY_TITLE
its about the pss 390 which is the same as the pss 380. Different is just the fancy, coloured interface
>>here is the important part where he compares it to the pss 780permits e.g. a reasonable sounding human voice "female chorus"), and it has many wild noise presets with complex pitch LFO, arpeggiator and retrigger effects (e.g. ringing "mandolin", "telephone", "helicopter", "machine gun", gritty and fat "brass ensemble", arpeggios in "crystal", "comet" etc., lots of great siren- like howling stuff like "ufo" or "ghost"), which I always expected to be standard with Yamaha FM instruments. But when I later bought the semi- professional Yamaha PSS-780 (the most advanced and most versatile top of the line FM PortaSound that was ever made - with MIDI, 61 keys, pitchbend wheel, 8 drumpads, sequencer etc.), I had to discover that this one includes none of these great effects but uses only very plain 2 operator FM for any sounds (although with a few more parameters), and it contains also no funny noise presets (like "helicopter")
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DADONCK
from here on 2017-08-21 17:02 [#02529223]
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ups:
again, here
The PSS-390 (also my Fujitone 6A) uses 4 operators for many of its sounds (i.e. quasi 2 internally layered 2 op sounds =>half polyphony but more realistic/ thicker, which permits e.g. a reasonable sounding human voice "female chorus"), and it has many wild noise presets with complex pitch LFO, arpeggiator and retrigger effects (e.g. ringing "mandolin", "telephone", "helicopter", "machine gun", gritty and fat "brass ensemble", arpeggios in "crystal", "comet" etc., lots of great siren- like howling stuff like "ufo" or "ghost"), which I always expected to be standard with Yamaha FM instruments. But when I later bought the semi- professional Yamaha PSS-780 (the most advanced and most versatile top of the line FM PortaSound that was ever made - with MIDI, 61 keys, pitchbend wheel, 8 drumpads, sequencer etc.), I had to discover that this one includes none of these great effects but uses only very plain 2 operator FM for any sounds (although with a few more parameters), and it contains also no funny noise presets (like "helicopter"). I also downloaded manuals of other MIDI PortaSounds with FM synthesizer, and they all lack these great effects. Possibly Yamaha feared here to confuse customers with too many editable parameters, but they could have simply kept them uneditable as already some other parameters are. Possibly also the complex LFO and envelope effects would have disturbed the delicate timing of MIDI transmission because they are likely generated by the main CPU and not controlled by the sound chip itself. There is also no FM PortaSound with MIDI and synth sliders. With the PSS-390 particularly the noise effect presets can be easily tweaked into the most fantastic and bizarre tekkno sounds, and since these off all don't exist in the "professional" MIDI PortaSounds, it is difficult to rate which FM PortaSound is the best or most versatile instrument.
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mermaidman
on 2017-08-21 17:04 [#02529224]
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2-op is for babies!!
...nah just kidding.
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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2017-08-21 17:05 [#02529225]
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so it doesn't have midi, shame as long as it has an audio out you can sample it or play it live :-)
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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2017-08-21 17:08 [#02529226]
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so lads, what are your setups?
mine is
roland tr808 roland tb303 roland sh101 * 3 fenix ii soundcraft mixer joyo delay*2, flanger, chorus boss dd7 fostex spring reverb
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mermaidman
on 2017-08-21 17:23 [#02529227]
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FENIX II?!!! get outta heeere!!
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DADONCK
from here on 2017-08-21 17:30 [#02529228]
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if the pss 380 had midi, i would have bought it already :) im still thinking about buying one, as it can be a nice noise machine. also, good sample material :)
here is a video of a guy playing it through a looper: LAZY_TITLE
i underestimated fm hardware synths all these years, even 2-ops mermaidman :)
i always thought, why buy fm hardware when u can do much more with fm on a computer. The volca fm i bought sounds really great to me and makes me look for other older fm stuff that has this… timbre. Pretty shure it comes from the DCA`s which you could emulate in other ways, but its also good to just sit in front of some synths, sequencers and effects without much computer around
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mermaidman
on 2017-08-21 17:37 [#02529229]
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i have a buchla music easel and a moog system 55 that i record with a prism ada-8xr.
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mermaidman
on 2017-08-21 19:22 [#02529231]
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joking aside, nice setup. which soundcraft mixer do you have?
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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2017-08-21 21:18 [#02529263]
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just a generic 12+4 channel thing that cost £100
roland s770 for sale on ebay in usa sampler with analogue multimode filters, monitor, control pad, mouse
a fucking beast of a sampler
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steve mcqueen
from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2017-08-24 00:53 [#02529467]
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yamaha pss380 = rephlex fav, Cheap and cheerful FM :)
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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2017-08-25 19:14 [#02529778]
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how'd you know it's a rephlex fav?
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mermaidman
on 2017-08-25 20:43 [#02529784]
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steve mcqueen are u squarepusher?
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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2017-08-25 21:51 [#02529792]
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squarepusher isn't from caerdydd :-)
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mermaidman
on 2017-08-25 22:30 [#02529799]
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don't fall for it umbro! his name isn't steve mcqueen either!
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2017-08-27 02:56 [#02529920]
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i have logitek speak/or and casble not long enuf 4 tootabletop so bodge connecticutts with one point forward, left, room. other point sideways, behind LCD, backwash. it is carefully calibrate with love and diet sprite. the best part is the subwoffer, tho. i have set up so i can compose trax with brax and toe on the taps feel the rrrr so like u bettar in the morn
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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2017-09-21 21:05 [#02531861]
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I'm gonna buy a korg monologue tomorrow so I can take part in stupid color squad compilation. :-) Don't really need it but I really like taking part in compilations.
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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2017-10-16 18:28 [#02534165]
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selling the monologue on ebay for £250
just bought a korg volca sample, will let you guys know how it is when it arrives.should be cool.
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2017-10-17 17:44 [#02534252]
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i tried a korg volca sample it is good alrite man wish it could sample stuff on its own instead of loading samples from digital tape say why don't you mess with the data bending ok.
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mermaidman
on 2017-10-17 17:47 [#02534253]
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it is 32 khz which makes it sound 32 khz
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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2017-10-22 20:44 [#02534760]
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damn i got the volca sample but the samples are a bitch to transfer over, wont work on android phone and two laptops. gonna have to buy an iphone6 just to use the bloody thing with the official software!!haha, fucking korg
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DADONCK
from here on 2017-10-22 22:40 [#02534765]
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i was thinking of buying a volca sample. but i actually want something, that isnt a bitch and actually a real sampler. was thinking of getting the digitakt. if it had more outs i would have ordered one, already
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DADONCK
from here on 2017-10-22 22:41 [#02534766]
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did u try this?
https://www.frederikson-labs.com
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DADONCK
from here on 2017-10-22 22:44 [#02534768]
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also, i have a pss380 now. pretty nice for 30 bucks
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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2017-10-22 22:49 [#02534771]
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cool yeah i tried every software and even the web one none of them work it gives the error err dcod
needs a fucking iphone 6 to work! lol
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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2017-10-22 22:50 [#02534772]
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i have an akai s2000 with eb16 fx anyway i bought the s2000 in 2004 when i worked in mcdonalds for £200 lol, now they cost about £50-£75
can use it as a multitimbral polysynth, can do lush pads
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DADONCK
from here on 2017-10-22 23:03 [#02534773]
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akai s2000? cool! u can get one in germany for 50 euros. is there actually a version with multiple outs?
the vosyr app didnt work for u? i like the volca sample, but i would like something that can sample and trim easily and on the fly. the korg mirco sampler seems ineresting but its much too expensive second hand
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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2017-10-22 23:06 [#02534774]
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https://britishacid.bandcamp.com/track/ptc listen to this track the pads are from the s2000
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2017-10-22 23:18 [#02534778]
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well?
does the s2000 have multiple outs, or not?
i so asked this in another thread
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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2017-10-22 23:20 [#02534779]
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it has room for the expansion card but doesn't come with it by default
i bought an s3000xl from a car boot sale for £5, it has a dodgy screen though. i fancied ripping the card out of the s3000xl and putting it in the s2000, but it's a slightly more complicated job than putting an eb16 in.
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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2017-10-22 23:22 [#02534780]
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the best samplers to get for analogue filters are roland s770 ensoniq mirage korg dsm 1 akai s950
the cheapest hardware sequence thats good is the yamaha qy 300
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DADONCK
from here on 2017-10-23 12:10 [#02534848]
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ja, nice glowing pads. thanks for all the suggestions
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DADONCK
from here on 2017-10-24 12:47 [#02534934]
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if i had more space i would buy an asr10
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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2017-10-24 13:35 [#02534939]
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Me 2 My s2000 is enough really I've got too many machines richard
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DADONCK
from here on 2017-10-24 20:00 [#02534956]
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the s2000 is a cool thing and its cheap. which is cool, too. i try to avoid expensive, boutique gear (not talking about roland here), doesn't matter if i can afford it.
but right now i'm thinking about buying a digitakt, which would be the most expensive music making thing i own. … and i buy a Behringer model d (maybe 4 of them, lol) when its out. and then i stop, seriously
today i just played with a tape player, an analog delay and an analog stereo chorus behind that. i recorded little synth lines on cassette, slowed them down with the player and put that though the delay and the chorus. just pretty
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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2017-10-25 19:20 [#02535107]
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http://www.musicradar.com/news/korg-leak-new-product-info...
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mermaidman
on 2017-10-25 19:39 [#02535110]
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mmm... monstrositilogue
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DADONCK
from here on 2017-10-25 20:06 [#02535124]
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I was reading about the rumours somewhere on MuffWiggler, I think. Seems to be an analogue(ish) poly synth. I think i have enough of that. I really love my Alpha Juno for that. And i could never get anything out of the Minilogue, that I wanted to go on with. And I tried for hours, because I really wanted to like it. And i still like the whole concept and form but with the sound something was missing for me. Maybe I didn't try hard enough, but then most of the stuff I have right now gives me immediate fun. I need that right now. Musicmaking is my happy freetime. But I like what Korg is doing overall. They have much better ideas then Roland these days.
If Korg would make an FM synth in the size of a Minilogue, with a lot of knobs and sliders and all this motion recording. And a good bit crusher and a decent reverb and a stereo chorus in the effect section, I would throw my money at them. Maybe thats too experimental, because FM doesn't offer enough real time modulation to not sound like dying chips. But then i look at Akemie's Castle and think yeah!
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mermaidman
on 2017-10-25 20:08 [#02535125]
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if they made a vco synth with ssm filters like the mono/poly or polysix it would be awesome but i'm afraid that's not gonna happen
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DADONCK
from here on 2017-10-25 20:11 [#02535126]
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i like that a lot
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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2017-11-10 16:52 [#02537069]
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bought a digitakt guys this machine vibes like a motherfucker https://soundcloud.com/umbromaniii/virgin-islands this is the first track i made on it
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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2018-01-25 18:32 [#02543065]
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https://www.elektron.se/products/digitone/
new product out from elektron, a digital fm multitimbral synth with sequencer. even if you new gear bores you check out the sound samples at the bottom. they got some really great musicians to do demos. one of the tracks is like something out of sonic the hedgehog.
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