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offline umbroman3 from United Kingdom on 2017-08-17 18:24 [#02528734]
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ensoniq keyboards have polyphonic aftertouch

Ensoniq EPS/EPS-16+/ASR-10/SQ-80/VFX/TS10.

dadonck, what do you think dude?



 

offline mohamed from the turtle business on 2017-08-21 12:02 [#02529208]
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he doesnt think


 

offline mermaidman on 2017-08-21 13:05 [#02529214]
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i have thought about buying an asr-10. i could actually wait
another month and buy one. it would be a great master
keyboard. it has great effects. but i don't know how i'd use
it for it's intended use. i sure would sample sounds and
record them to the computer. how long can they sample
anyway? but i first have to buy an audio interface. i'm
still using the onboard soundcard. so that's where my money
has to go first.


 

offline umbroman3 from United Kingdom on 2017-08-21 13:36 [#02529216]
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polyphonic aftertouch, want it so bad


 

offline DADONCK from here on 2017-08-21 16:36 [#02529218]
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the ensoniq stuff is great! EPS/EPS16/ASR10 also have
internal tuning tables

read here:
http://www.huygens-fokker.org/scala/

i have polyphonic aftertouch with my QuNexus but never
really used it with a synth


 

offline DADONCK from here on 2017-08-21 16:37 [#02529219]
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i would like more gear talk!


 

offline DADONCK from here on 2017-08-21 16:40 [#02529220]
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umbroman3, u got me pretty close to buying a Yamaha pss 380
just for noodling around. i actually don't have much more
space for stuff but im close to buying one of these "toys"

LAZY_TITLE


 

offline umbroman3 from United Kingdom on 2017-08-21 16:50 [#02529221]
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that looks really good dadonck
layered 2 op, almost 4 op with sliders for control
that looks better than my pss 780


 

offline DADONCK from here on 2017-08-21 17:00 [#02529222]
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here is the best info i could find about it:
LAZY_TITLE

its about the pss 390 which is the same as the pss 380.
Different is just the fancy, coloured interface

>>here is the important part where he compares it to the pss
780permits e.g. a reasonable sounding human voice "female
chorus"), and it has many wild noise presets with complex
pitch LFO, arpeggiator and retrigger effects (e.g. ringing
"mandolin", "telephone", "helicopter", "machine gun",
gritty and fat "brass ensemble", arpeggios in "crystal",
"comet" etc., lots of great siren- like howling stuff like
"ufo" or "ghost"), which I always expected to be standard
with Yamaha FM instruments. But when I later bought the
semi- professional Yamaha PSS-780 (the most advanced and
most versatile top of the line FM PortaSound that was ever
made - with MIDI, 61 keys, pitchbend wheel, 8 drumpads,
sequencer etc.), I had to discover that this one includes
none of these great effects but uses only very plain 2
operator FM for any sounds (although with a few more
parameters), and it contains also no funny noise presets
(like "helicopter")



 

offline DADONCK from here on 2017-08-21 17:02 [#02529223]
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ups:

again, here

The PSS-390 (also my Fujitone 6A) uses 4 operators for many
of its sounds (i.e. quasi 2 internally layered 2 op sounds
=>half polyphony but more realistic/ thicker, which permits
e.g. a reasonable sounding human voice "female chorus"), and
it has many wild noise presets with complex pitch LFO,
arpeggiator and retrigger effects (e.g. ringing "mandolin",
"telephone", "helicopter", "machine gun", gritty and fat
"brass ensemble", arpeggios in "crystal", "comet" etc., lots
of great siren- like howling stuff like "ufo" or "ghost"),
which I always expected to be standard with Yamaha FM
instruments. But when I later bought the semi- professional
Yamaha PSS-780 (the most advanced and most versatile top of
the line FM PortaSound that was ever made - with MIDI, 61
keys, pitchbend wheel, 8 drumpads, sequencer etc.), I had to
discover that this one includes none of these great effects
but uses only very plain 2 operator FM for any sounds
(although with a few more parameters), and it contains also
no funny noise presets (like "helicopter"). I also
downloaded manuals of other MIDI PortaSounds with FM
synthesizer, and they all lack these great effects. Possibly
Yamaha feared here to confuse customers with too many
editable parameters, but they could have simply kept them
uneditable as already some other parameters are. Possibly
also the complex LFO and envelope effects would have
disturbed the delicate timing of MIDI transmission because
they are likely generated by the main CPU and not controlled
by the sound chip itself. There is also no FM PortaSound
with MIDI and synth sliders. With the PSS-390 particularly
the noise effect presets can be easily tweaked into the most
fantastic and bizarre tekkno sounds, and since these off all
don't exist in the "professional" MIDI PortaSounds, it is
difficult to rate which FM PortaSound is the best or most
versatile instrument.



 

offline mermaidman on 2017-08-21 17:04 [#02529224]
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2-op is for babies!!

...nah just kidding.


 

offline umbroman3 from United Kingdom on 2017-08-21 17:05 [#02529225]
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so it doesn't have midi, shame
as long as it has an audio out you can sample it or play it
live :-)


 

offline umbroman3 from United Kingdom on 2017-08-21 17:08 [#02529226]
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so lads, what are your setups?

mine is

roland tr808
roland tb303
roland sh101 * 3
fenix ii
soundcraft mixer
joyo delay*2, flanger, chorus
boss dd7
fostex spring reverb



 

offline mermaidman on 2017-08-21 17:23 [#02529227]
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FENIX II?!!! get outta heeere!!


 

offline DADONCK from here on 2017-08-21 17:30 [#02529228]
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if the pss 380 had midi, i would have bought it already :)
im still thinking about buying one, as it can be a nice
noise machine. also, good sample material :)

here is a video of a guy playing it through a looper:
LAZY_TITLE

i underestimated fm hardware synths all these years, even
2-ops mermaidman :)

i always thought, why buy fm hardware when u can do much
more with fm on a computer. The volca fm i bought sounds
really great to me and makes me look for other older fm
stuff that has this… timbre. Pretty shure it comes from
the DCA`s which you could emulate in other ways, but its
also good to just sit in front of some synths, sequencers
and effects without much computer around


 

offline mermaidman on 2017-08-21 17:37 [#02529229]
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i have a buchla music easel and a moog system 55 that i
record with a prism ada-8xr.


 

offline mermaidman on 2017-08-21 19:22 [#02529231]
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joking aside, nice setup. which soundcraft mixer do you
have?


 

offline umbroman3 from United Kingdom on 2017-08-21 21:18 [#02529263]
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just a generic 12+4 channel thing that cost £100

roland s770 for sale on ebay in usa
sampler with analogue multimode filters, monitor, control
pad, mouse
a fucking beast of a sampler



 

offline steve mcqueen from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2017-08-24 00:53 [#02529467]
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yamaha pss380 = rephlex fav, Cheap and cheerful FM :)


 

offline umbroman3 from United Kingdom on 2017-08-25 19:14 [#02529778]
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how'd you know it's a rephlex fav?


 

offline mermaidman on 2017-08-25 20:43 [#02529784]
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steve mcqueen are u squarepusher?


 

offline umbroman3 from United Kingdom on 2017-08-25 21:51 [#02529792]
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squarepusher isn't from caerdydd :-)


 

offline mermaidman on 2017-08-25 22:30 [#02529799]
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don't fall for it umbro! his name isn't steve mcqueen
either!


 

online EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2017-08-27 02:56 [#02529920]
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i have logitek speak/or and casble not long enuf 4
tootabletop so bodge connecticutts with one point forward,
left, room. other point sideways, behind LCD, backwash. it
is carefully calibrate with love and diet sprite. the best
part is the subwoffer, tho. i have set up so i can compose
trax with brax and toe on the taps feel the rrrr so like u
bettar in the morn


 

offline umbroman3 from United Kingdom on 2017-09-21 21:05 [#02531861]
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I'm gonna buy a korg monologue tomorrow so I can take part
in stupid color squad compilation. :-) Don't really need it
but I really like taking part in compilations.


 

offline umbroman3 from United Kingdom on 2017-10-16 18:28 [#02534165]
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selling the monologue on ebay for £250

just bought a korg volca sample, will let you guys know how
it is when it arrives.should be cool.


 

online EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2017-10-17 17:44 [#02534252]
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i tried a korg volca sample it is good alrite man wish it
could sample stuff on its own instead of loading samples
from digital tape say why don't you mess with the data
bending ok.


 

offline mermaidman on 2017-10-17 17:47 [#02534253]
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it is 32 khz which makes it sound 32 khz


 

offline umbroman3 from United Kingdom on 2017-10-22 20:44 [#02534760]
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damn i got the volca sample but the samples are a bitch to
transfer over, wont work on android phone and two laptops.
gonna have to buy an iphone6 just to use the bloody thing
with the official software!!haha, fucking korg


 

offline DADONCK from here on 2017-10-22 22:40 [#02534765]
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i was thinking of buying a volca sample. but i actually want
something, that isnt a bitch and actually a real sampler.
was thinking of getting the digitakt. if it had more outs i
would have ordered one, already


 

offline DADONCK from here on 2017-10-22 22:41 [#02534766]
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did u try this?

https://www.frederikson-labs.com


 

offline DADONCK from here on 2017-10-22 22:44 [#02534768]
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also, i have a pss380 now. pretty nice for 30 bucks


 

offline umbroman3 from United Kingdom on 2017-10-22 22:49 [#02534771]
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cool
yeah i tried every software and even the web one
none of them work
it gives the error
err dcod

needs a fucking iphone 6 to work! lol


 

offline umbroman3 from United Kingdom on 2017-10-22 22:50 [#02534772]
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i have an akai s2000 with eb16 fx anyway
i bought the s2000 in 2004 when i worked in mcdonalds for
£200 lol, now they cost about £50-£75
can use it as a multitimbral polysynth, can do lush pads


 

offline DADONCK from here on 2017-10-22 23:03 [#02534773]
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akai s2000? cool! u can get one in germany for 50 euros. is
there actually a version with multiple outs?

the vosyr app didnt work for u? i like the volca sample, but
i would like something that can sample and trim easily and
on the fly. the korg mirco sampler seems ineresting but its
much too expensive second hand


 

offline umbroman3 from United Kingdom on 2017-10-22 23:06 [#02534774]
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https://britishacid.bandcamp.com/track/ptc
listen to this track
the pads are from the s2000


 

online EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2017-10-22 23:18 [#02534778]
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well?

does the s2000 have multiple outs, or not?

i so asked this in another thread


 

offline umbroman3 from United Kingdom on 2017-10-22 23:20 [#02534779]
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it has room for the expansion card but doesn't come with it
by default
i bought an s3000xl from a car boot sale for £5, it has a
dodgy screen though. i fancied ripping the card out of the
s3000xl and putting it in the s2000, but it's a slightly
more complicated job than putting an eb16 in.


 

offline umbroman3 from United Kingdom on 2017-10-22 23:22 [#02534780]
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the best samplers to get for analogue filters are
roland s770
ensoniq mirage
korg dsm 1
akai s950

the cheapest hardware sequence thats good is the yamaha qy
300


 

offline DADONCK from here on 2017-10-23 12:10 [#02534848]
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ja, nice glowing pads. thanks for all the suggestions


 

offline DADONCK from here on 2017-10-24 12:47 [#02534934]
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if i had more space i would buy an asr10


 

offline umbroman3 from United Kingdom on 2017-10-24 13:35 [#02534939]
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Me 2
My s2000 is enough really
I've got too many machines richard


 

offline DADONCK from here on 2017-10-24 20:00 [#02534956]
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the s2000 is a cool thing and its cheap. which is cool, too.
i try to avoid expensive, boutique gear (not talking about
roland here), doesn't matter if i can afford it.

but right now i'm thinking about buying a digitakt, which
would be the most expensive music making thing i own. …
and i buy a Behringer model d (maybe 4 of them, lol) when
its out. and then i stop, seriously

today i just played with a tape player, an analog delay and
an analog stereo chorus behind that. i recorded little synth
lines on cassette, slowed them down with the player and put
that though the delay and the chorus. just pretty


 

offline umbroman3 from United Kingdom on 2017-10-25 19:20 [#02535107]
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http://www.musicradar.com/news/korg-leak-new-product-info...


 

offline mermaidman on 2017-10-25 19:39 [#02535110]
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mmm... monstrositilogue


 

offline DADONCK from here on 2017-10-25 20:06 [#02535124]
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I was reading about the rumours somewhere on MuffWiggler, I
think. Seems to be an analogue(ish) poly synth. I think i
have enough of that. I really love my Alpha Juno for that.
And i could never get anything out of the Minilogue, that I
wanted to go on with. And I tried for hours, because I
really wanted to like it. And i still like the whole concept
and form but with the sound something was missing for me.
Maybe I didn't try hard enough, but then most of the stuff I
have right now gives me immediate fun. I need that right
now. Musicmaking is my happy freetime. But I like what Korg
is doing overall. They have much better ideas then Roland
these days.

If Korg would make an FM synth in the size of a Minilogue,
with a lot of knobs and sliders and all this motion
recording. And a good bit crusher and a decent reverb and a
stereo chorus in the effect section, I would throw my money
at them. Maybe thats too experimental, because FM doesn't
offer enough real time modulation to not sound like dying
chips. But then i look at Akemie's Castle and think yeah!

LAZY_TITLE


 

offline mermaidman on 2017-10-25 20:08 [#02535125]
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if they made a vco synth with ssm filters like the mono/poly
or polysix it would be awesome but i'm afraid that's not
gonna happen


 

offline DADONCK from here on 2017-10-25 20:11 [#02535126]
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i like that a lot


 

offline umbroman3 from United Kingdom on 2017-11-10 16:52 [#02537069]
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bought a digitakt guys
this machine vibes like a motherfucker
https://soundcloud.com/umbromaniii/virgin-islands
this is the first track i made on it


 

offline umbroman3 from United Kingdom on 2018-01-25 18:32 [#02543065]
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https://www.elektron.se/products/digitone/

new product out from elektron, a digital fm multitimbral
synth with sequencer. even if you new gear bores you check
out the sound samples at the bottom. they got some really
great musicians to do demos. one of the tracks is like
something out of sonic the hedgehog.


 


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