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first i read it was lebanese, today they say they fled from ghaddafi. this is the current state of the media on the matter |
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yes bit worrying they dont know the difference |
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He he, the freqy thread. Horrible moment, obviously. But I'm not in the least surprised. I can imagine signeduptolol... damn, and Roger Moore died too. I hope he's ok. (as in mentally) |
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If i was bond id have an ejector coffin, so when i was put into the ground it would launch me through the air with a union jack parachute to the delight of the guests |
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mark, you're alright,, so keep the opinions flowing m8 fuck these muslims and fuck mass immigration i knew some alright muslims, used to treat me, take me clubbing and all sorts of hijincks together. muslims can be good bros. then some of these terrorist guys, wtf is wrong with them? blowing up little kids and themselves. for fuck's sake man. |
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Division is the "devil's" favourite thing. They are good people in all walks of life, and bald people. We should focus on the individual, and not generalize. I find it hard too. |
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There, not they. I really need to start proofreading. |
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its a shame Mohammed wasn't a bit more laid back |
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Yeah he had mental problems, man |
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Sorry, fucked up the link. I meant to link |
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you havent been wanking to mutant clone ripley i hope, shes my secret wank babe hands off! |
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(daily) express .co.uk definitely needs a proof reader. there reporters have worse typing than i do and I do it on purpose most of the time. |
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freqy im always mean to you. forget about that. drop the white genocide state of alert ok. lets all take a moment for the summer for a week. |
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Ha ha! Not just them, I see it everyday, BBC included. It drives me crazy. These people are paid to do a job, which includes setting an example grammar wise. It's a joke. |
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You mean in general. You're a sad cunt as far as I'm concerned. You're probably too old for that tag, but you're a brat. I hope the Jews get you. |
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*their. :) |
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You're* FFS FFS FFS |
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Thats nice ampie ; ) i'll play this when you are beastly to me next time :..) |
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Lel |
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haha, still, we are better than the news sites : P |
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ur confused dude i never said jews were out to get me (that was someone else). i said anyone who thinks the jews and globalists are out to get them are showing signs of mental illness or at least thats what i tried to imply most the time |
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express ...i actually think the editor has his 9 year old children working for him. about 5 major errors in one story the other day. i thought i might apply for a job their. ha |
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arnt we having a nice time listening to ampies song....even though he is beastly to us...lol ; p |
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Yes I keep thinking you're the Jew guy. Sorry. Was it umbroman? |
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I prefer my music. But I've never shared any, so fuck me. I might actually share some oldies, if I drink too much absynth. |
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you could share some for a laugh. |
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u dont have to today but would like to hear ur stuff sometime |
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yes im getting my ass kicked by pscyhic jews anyway it's true but never mind |
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Ok will select a few tracks. Umbro, man, trust me they can't get to you. You can fault them for your negative thoughts, and general malaise, but you're doing it to yourself, no one is doing it to you. That's just an excuse. Maybe you're just trolling, but if you're not I'd really like for you to step up. You're not a victim. |
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you're still not getting it is his paranoid construction, lasting quite a few but still, not trolling |
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i hopes it all resolves it love for the jews umbro, seems like you grow up in a quite antisemitic context or im just talking bullshit |
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psychic jews exist they destroyed idm |
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seriously though this is fucked thoughts and prayers to the family members |
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Seeing as we can't lock them all up or deport them, the Muslims have to sort this out themselves. Sadly, whilst they'll get all active and protest if they're "offended" or if Israel defends itself, they don't seem particularly "offended" when someone carries out an atrocity in the name of Islam. I wonder why that might be? |
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This s obviously an issue of the greater society. You’re all living in the same country with the same government, same schools, same shopping centres etc.. It’s not their problem, it’s your problem too. Multiculturalism is a reality, open your fucking eyes people. Don’t give in to the xenophobia. Don’t follow the narrative they are setting up for you. I know it’s difficult. THe more attacks, the more bombs that go off, the more people get up in arms and anti-Muslim…. perfect! Just what they want. As hyperflake said (btw you make perfect sense, mo is just being stubbornly black and white about the issue) said, I don’t want to justify these actions, just trying to understand where they stem from. I don’t believe in innate evil. I suppose we are hardwired towards certain dispositions, but overall it’s our environment that shapes us. imhotep |
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thanks for saying i made some sort of sense! its a topic that is just a minefield of emotions |
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I don’t see it ending too soon. 1. In general. People have free will. As long as there are human beings they’ll make use of the option to choose violence. More specifically: 2. If you look at how Muslim terrorists explain their actions, you’ll spot that again and again they claim that life is only worth living if they are treated with respect and dignity. They are also convinced that Western people deny them this respect. 3. Their concept of dignity/respect/honour seems to be a strange mix of the "chauvinistic" belief in the intrinsic superiority of Muslims and genuine ethical concerns. 4. It’s easy to find evidence for hypocrisy in Western politics and wars. So if you are a self-righteous, anti-Western person, it’s easy to get in a mood where you see the West as demonic and yourself as a heroic and shining ethical fighter for the good. 5. Western civilization is technologically well-developed but in a existential crisis because to a large extent it doesn’t belief in enlightenment values and itself anymore. So everybody wants Western technology but most people are not too impressed by its "decadent" culture. … Very few are therefore willing to defend it. 6. Most Westerners don’t seem capable of understanding that Muslim terrorists are not driven by economic factors, but by a desire for a very specific type of dignity. … Conversely, many Muslims brought up in the belief that Islam is perfect seem to have little or no desire to understand the point of Western enlightenment ideas. 7. Multiculturalism as commonly understood is an incoherent idea. It’s often said: "All lifestyles are acceptable as long as there is the fundamental commitment to democracy, individual human rights, etc“. But that implies that only one fundamental culture is allowed (that of Western-style individualism). That causes confusion and frustration on all sides. Therefore: more deaths. It’s all very tragic and will keep going. |
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yeah i think you have nailed most of the issues really, whats strange is that these fanatics dont have enough self insight to realise they probably wouldn't want to live in a Muslim majority country. or do they just suppress these feelings of hypocrisy? |
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I wish I was better at addressing this sort of thing. My post actually addressed the idea of human dignity, but again it was just some silly story about my personal experience. I think everyone’s heard enough of me so I deleted it. Anyway, I think Muslims are spot on when they say that they are denied respect. They obviously are. Welt, I wouldn’t factor out class altogether. Especially in Western countries with Muslim immigrants. Regarding your fabricated quote, by that reasoning, yes it does seem to imply that since that is where the idea comes from, it requires conformity to democratic values. Abstract ideas aside, it is a reality. We can’t escape it. We live in multicultural societies. We have to accept difference else tensions will just keep growing. I don't know enough though. I appreciate it when people more equipped than myself tackle the issue. |
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You say it's obvious that Muslims are denied respect. Even though you think it's obvious, I'd like to hear what you have in mind specifically. I'd also be interested in the personal experience ... In my post above I was, however, talking not so much about the "average Muslim", but about the large enough group of terrorists and terrorist-sympathizers. And their idea of respect and dignity seems to be very twisted. Look at the official Dabiq magazine of the IS. They state explcitly what drives them: "Soon, by Allah’s permission, a day will come when the Muslim will walk everywhere as a master, having honor, being revered, with his head raised high, and his dignity preserved. Anyone who dares to offend him will be disciplined, and any hand that reaches out to harm him (http://clarionproject.org/wp-content/uploads/islamic-state will be cut off." -isis-isil-dabiq-magazine-issue-12-just-terror.pdf , page 2) If THAT'S what a Muslim person means by being treated with respect, then I guess everyone here will agree, that it's actually right to deny them this "respect". Do you think, though, that specific Muslims are driven towards these more "twisted" ideals of respect, because they are denied, let's say, for the lack of a better word, "normal" human dignity? |
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Very good question .. |
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I'm basing that on the strong populist, anti-Islamic rhetoric going on all around the world. It's the cycle of hate and protectionism (just pulling this ism out of my arse) coming from both sides. Basic lack of respect and inclusivity for one another. Everyone's just saying fuck you to the other. Okay, sorry yeah I am referring to the average Muslim, not these murdering fuckheads. Sorry. Yes, I deny them respect in that sense. Anyway yeah, maybe I am saying that lack of general respect leads to a demand for it or a kind of payback. Again, you are right, if there is a choice to be evil, there will always be those that make that choice. Right now, to me it seems to be getting worse. Horrible shit happening all the time and the feeling of otherness just intensifies. |
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These people is being trampled on in their own countries and come here lamenting there is no respect like they were still living under some arab dictatorship. Their dignity is taken away long before they put their feet in european sole. Addressing their frustations on the european society is what makes them unwanted guests. |
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teen/preteen girls.. bit strong init |
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it's a cliche but you can't actually say anything that doesn't sound like a cliche, or doesn't make matters worse, or both... fuck it.,,,,, Wat. |
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the vigil i went to was really nice, just nice to turn my fucking brain off |
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That would apply to 1st generation immigrants. There are also people who have lived in (hypothetical) various countries for many generations who are also not treated with dignity and build up silent resentment over time. And imagine what you said with dignity being taken away before they get there, it doesn't help that you are treated with less dignity when u get there after having it already taken away. Is there nothing left to take? Dignity for me isn't something that can be snatched away in an instant, if is something that can be continually beaten upon until who knows what is left of a person. At the risk of sounding too Marxist - everywhere the oppressed will want to usurp (for lack of a better word) the ruling classes or the ruling classes want to extend their rule. At the end of the day what do I have but Feedly and poorly informed YouTube videos to guide my worldview. |
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getting someone to blow themselves up for something is brainwashing, that's that. |
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i totally agree with that definition of dignity. damage must be constant and continuous i guess. |
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don't bring dignity or any of that into it, it's purely someone being more suceptible to that brainwashing. |
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