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very clear vision |
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omg, are you an expert on fascism too, Mohamed? Lol It's not how it happened. AMPI, you can stop trying to troll me, because even at that you're shit. |
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nope, just take a walk in cairo and thats what you'll see |
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slaves, slaves in the head |
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and rancour |
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sometimes |
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What has Egypt got to do with fascism, it's origins, and why it worked for so long in the country you live in for example? I think I see what you're trying to say, and I don't deny it's happening, I just don't understand what it has to do with fascism. |
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The term is now used so loosely Nowadays. |
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im not an expert on fascism in italy. wasn't relating to fascism though, just to the picture that ampi described, to debunk the mith that they have to struggle to integrate in the western society when it sufficient a walk on the street in the most 'western minded' arab country to feel like in a circle of hell. |
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Who is "they" here? |
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the arabs |
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are you going to be horrified for that 'they'? |
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No, I was just getting confused. I realize it's not what you were talking about, but I maintain this has little to do with what fascism was. How are you doing, Mo? |
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im doing fine, thanks |
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I'm ok as well. |
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russell i really dont understand where ur coming from tbh. confused why you got mad you know the nazis used violence to get power. |
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Nazi stormtroopers had unleashed a campaign of violence against the Communist Party (KPD), left-wingers, trade unionists, the Social Democratic Party of Germany, and the centre-right Catholic Centre Party. The 1933 election followed the previous year's two elections (July and November) and Hitler's appointment as Chancellor. In the months before the 1933 election, brownshirts and SS displayed "terror, repression and propaganda [...] across the land", and Nazi organizations "monitored" the vote process. In Prussia 50,000 members of the SS, SA and Stahlhelm were ordered to monitor the votes by acting Interior Minister Hermann Göring, as auxiliary police. The Nazis registered a large increase in votes in 1933. However, despite waging a campaign of terror against their opponents, the Nazis only tallied 43.9 percent of the vote, well short of a majority. They needed the votes of their coalition partner, the German National People's Party (DNVP), for a bare working majority in the Reichstag. This would be the last contested election held in Germany before World War II. Two weeks after the election, Hitler was able to pass an Enabling Act on 23 March with the support of all non-socialist parties, which effectively gave Hitler dictatorial powers. Within months, the Nazis banned all other parties, dissolved the Reichstag and replaced it with a rubberstamp legislature comprising only Nazis and pro-Nazi "guests." |
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The people of Germany were already highly antisemetic, like it or not, and they were fooled by the idea of a better future. The Nazi party stabilized Germany for a while. What any leader builds on is the idea of hope, and Hitler did just that. As for your copy and paste, it's lame to do that. You just know bits of stuff, and function by seeing things as either black, or white. Before actually reading far too many books, I used to be like you, and just got my ideas from Wikipedia, quotes etc. I thought the people of Germany were victims. They clearly weren't. I got vaguely annoyed purely because you clearly haven't even spent an hour researching fascism, but spit out these nuggets of crap, pretending you're some authority. At least I don't claim to be a know-it-all, even though I have spent absolutely ages reading on the matter. I started having nightmares. And here comes this cunt pretending he knows what he's talking about, but who has really barely even scratched the surface. |
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Aw, you so desperately need a friend. |
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wikipedia just for a thread here at xltronic |
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I could mention having nearly given up, reading so much Ian Kershaw. I'm sure AMPI TWAT is an authority on him too. |
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have you read timothy snyders bloodlands? |
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Lel/cough/twat |
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Lel/cough/twat I suppose you just get all your info from your own brilliant mind. |
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nugget head i asked if you read tim snyder jeeeezus what is ur problem this week |
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russell |
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Oh now I get you. Have I read Bloodlands? No. I'm pretty aware of his position though, and have read about it. Have you read it? I will eventually read it, I know I have to, but I'm tired when it comes to studying Hitler and the Weimar Republic, even though here the focus is on Stalin too. I do look forward to reading Bloodlands. |
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havnt had a chance to continue reading it for over a year now. i remember reading bits of kershaws articles that stuck with me. but basically i was just trying to demystify hitler...ykno the average person always says he was some powerful man with a magical connection with the germans. im trying to say he just bullied a weak germany. and i think that is that case with islamic radicals. they dont have this deep islamic magical connection with the inner radical heart of every muslim mind. they are just bullying people who if given the chance would sooner opt for a free modern life than be part of a grand religious struggle for respect. so maybe the respect issue wont be the a decisive factor |
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they take advantage of peoples weakness, thats what they do |
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I wouldn't defend this in an academic paper or attempt to prove it. But as a German, who grew up in Germany, my impression is that a significant amount of Germans have a psyche which - in the "right" context - allows them to see little ethical difference between, let's say, squatting a fly and sending human beings to extermination camps. .... They don't need to be bullied into doing it. It's not even a very deep issue for them. Adolf Eichmann is a typical example, it seems to me. |
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It may have ended with camps, but it's not how it started... |
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Yeah, Hitler has now become a Disney villain, stripped of any humanity, when in fact he was very much a human being. I rem watching der Untergang for the first time and being sick for two days straight, so much had it struck a chord. Here we had Hitler as a fragile, broken, rambling madman, who ultimately was one of us; a human being. |
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may be true. welt read pretty strange book |
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People just prefer to picture Hitler as this villain that didn't really exist. The root of all evil etc.. It takes a lot of guts and insight to admit Hitler was a human being, highly sensitive, of course damaged and seriously flawed. He was a terrified man. A millenarist. He didn't create antisemitism, wars, concetration camps. He brought it all to a new level. |
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I was actually thinking about reading that Tuvia Tenenbom book for a while. Never did it, though. ... Seeing Hitler as the "root of all evil" seems evidently false to me. I can't even take it seriously. It seems like an "obvious" attempt to place all guilt an on a single person/(demon) and therefore to dissociate oneself from that guilt. |
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check this out russell i tried to focus on the description of hitlers world view (snyder on tha mic) |
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Yup. Thanks AMPERS, will listen in bed most probably. Nice bedtime stuff. |
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sleep well dude |
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My gosh I'm subject to a form Stockholm syndrome! You too, TAMPI MAX! |
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