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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2017-05-25 22:01 [#02520658]
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you bring the conditions for brainwashing hitting exactly there
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steve mcqueen
from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2017-05-25 22:02 [#02520659]
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[ That post wasn't responding to you then, Mo ]
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steve mcqueen
from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2017-05-25 22:03 [#02520660]
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[ The post b4 that one, ah confusion ... ok i'm off... ]
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2017-05-26 21:49 [#02520778]
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i read a whole guardian article on the manchester terrorist, says he was gradually alienated but doesnt tell a serious reason for it. says that from those 2.5 sq miles come nearly 20 dead or convincted terrorists. apparently (my own supposition) he had the occasion to get in touch with some fanatics into his own country, lybia, the father and himself belonged to a militia that fought gaddhafi linked to al qaida.
one curios thing the article says, is that he was good at girls. if i was a policeman at this point i would totally investigate between his conquests.
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2017-05-26 21:57 [#02520779]
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clearly stuff has gotten out of hand in uk, something drastic must be done. i cant believe they permitted terrorism to flourish this way.
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jtalton
from Onomichi (Japan) on 2017-05-26 23:06 [#02520780]
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"Anyway, I think Muslims are spot on when they say that they
are denied respect. They obviously are. "
Won't respect a religion that shits on women's rights and deems throwing homosexuals off buildings as moral (list could go on forever but i will leave it at 2 examples).
Now do i think all muslims are bad?, no cause i don't believe all people are bad and it is obviously a complicated situation.
Do i think military intervention in the middle east caused a spike in terrorist attacks absolutely.
Do i think a lot of cunts that aren't being affected by these attacks are making a shit ton of money off these conflicts and are willing to accept these attacks to continue to make money? ABSOLUTELY
Do i have any solutions to the state of affairs? ABsolutelyfucking not (unfortunately). Maybe if the west stops making refugees by bombing 8 countries (might be more now) we can slow down the rate of terrorism while we find a ways to give the "respect" these cunts need and also maybe get them to realise honor killings are bad
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2017-05-27 05:32 [#02520783]
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My life is so boring, i actually look forward to new terrorist attacks
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2017-05-27 09:50 [#02520786]
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that made me audible such air through my mouth in shock and amusement
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2017-05-27 09:52 [#02520787]
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suck air
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Portnoy
on 2017-05-27 10:33 [#02520793]
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"Won't respect a religion that shits on women's rights and deems throwing homosexuals off buildings as moral (list could go on forever but i will leave it at 2 examples). "
I have trouble reconciling this too.
Religion is just another form of social control. It should be done away with in my opinion. Nobody listens to me unfortunately.
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2017-05-27 10:56 [#02520795]
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yes organised religion at any rate should be done away with
personal spirituality is absolutely fine by me
when you have a collection of bronze age myths telling people to chop each others heads off and stone kids thats when we are all effected by it
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2017-05-27 10:58 [#02520796]
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im pretty much fine with Church of England though, its more about having tea and cakes, old arch bishop of Canterbury was always saying he wasnt sure god existed lol
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2017-05-27 11:00 [#02520797]
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LAZY_TITLE
I quite like Rowan Willams even if i dont agree with him
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Portnoy
on 2017-05-27 11:09 [#02520798]
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it’s so old hat.
When I say done away with, my tongue is firmly lodged in my cheek.
As an upstanding democratic citizen I believe in freedom of choice (as long as that choice does not infringe blah blah blah)…
People need to wake up and do away with it themselves. Take responsibility for their actions.
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2017-05-27 11:17 [#02520799]
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What id give for a glimpse of the future, i think there will always be people with irrational beliefs around, i dont know if its tied into intelligence in a linear fashion. I think it does take a modicum of critical thinking to reach the stage when you shake superstitious though, unfortunately alot of people never reach it for some reason or other. My mum for instance is a committed christian and she is intellgent, she is far better at maths than me for a start.
However I was chatting to her about dinosaurs, and she was making excuses about the plausibility because it conflicts with her belief system, even though is readily apparent they exist. If it was in any other domain of her life she would accept they existed without question. Its so odd to me .
I get the feeling she knows they were real and its not a hoax, she just cant bring herself to reconcile it with the bible which she has invested most of her life adhering too.
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2017-05-27 11:18 [#02520800]
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I think its an emotional thing for her, she cant contemplate death i dont think, or suffering, so the bible sort of absolves her of thinking about it too much
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welt
on 2017-05-27 11:27 [#02520801]
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What continues to blow my mind is that (a) Islam is often seen as an essentially backwards anti-scientific etc. religion and that (b) the modern West only came into existence because the knowledge of Greek scientists and thinkers was preserved in the Islamic world.
It's very weird to me to let it sink in that if you're a western person who values science and free rational enquiry, you wouldn't exist if (a) Mohammed wouldn't have had visions, if (b) his wife hadn't convinced him that these are not demons talking to him but God and that he therefore should not kill himself and if (c) he wouldn't have spread Islam with the sword thereby laying the foundations for an empire where knowledge could travel.
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2017-05-27 11:38 [#02520802]
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yes there were lots of important mathematicians and scientists in the Islamic world. Yes i suppose these ideas were spread in conjunction with Islamic conquest. Its the ultimate irony in a way
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2017-05-27 11:44 [#02520803]
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the demons talking thing sounds very reminiscent of schizophrenia
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Portnoy
on 2017-05-27 11:58 [#02520804]
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In your mum's case perhaps the limbic system will not allow the pre-frontal cortex to produce a rational perspective regarding the existence of dinosaurs*. In other words, as you say, she's too emotional about it. It clouds her judgement.
That's an interesting thought, welt. The irony is strong.
*I hope I got that right.
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2017-05-27 12:13 [#02520805]
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I think she is smart enough to know that dinosaurs are real, she doesnt get defensive about it, she just blanks it from her mind, alot pf people do that for different reasons,
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Portnoy
on 2017-05-27 12:32 [#02520806]
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I think I know what u mean, we all do that. Put certain things aside / ignore it because it's easier not to think about it.
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2017-05-27 12:34 [#02520807]
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yes not facing up to reality sort of thing, i do it all the time
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2017-05-27 16:38 [#02520811]
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welt i disagree with you cos i dont think the respect issue is that big.
nazis and communists always have the same trouble that islamic rads will have soon: there just arent that many people who want to die in a struggle for paradise. most ppl want to eat smoke drink and laugh everyday - very unrevolutionary.
the only people who want life to be a permanent revolutionary struggle are basically ppl who have been made emotionally immature usually by brutality and trauma.
loads of muslims have been kept emotionally immature. violence makes people emotionally broken (immature). believing that life is a corrupt sick dream means you can never grow. (this is why i ask people to not believe in conspiracy theories - they keep you emotionally immature). depression leaves you weak and brittle - you will be immature.
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2017-05-27 16:43 [#02520812]
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not facing up to reality is immature.
i knew this guy and after his mum died he started getting into jeremy corbyn, he got serious depression, and he started painting all these really bad pictures of the joker from batman.
he cant face death. but you have to be mature about these things.
i think of some dumb muslim cunt not being able to see a couple of fags holding hands in the park without being psychically wounded. what a baby. being a child about this planet is always dangerous
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2017-05-27 16:53 [#02520813]
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radicals act tough like children act tough; never playing fair. fair is for boring old pipesmoking grownup grandads in suits who are really controlled by jewish powers
exploding bombs is for the cool kids aww yeah. 'fuck tha system' is for cool kids! wars are all for oil man ima cool kid.
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2017-05-27 18:08 [#02520814]
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hackers are cool. im a cool kid that loves hackers LAZY_TITLE
i like the way hackers cheat the system cos the system is controlled by globalists that murdered seth rich!
kim dotcom aww hell yeah he is hip. i love all these computer wizards they are rad. julian assange is cool. did he rape that woman? no way! what? oh come on! just wow. you are so uncool dad..you dont get it dad. he didnt go to court because the NEOCONS would have captured him! you just dont get it dad.
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2017-05-27 19:50 [#02520815]
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Sean Hannity looks like a thumb with a lego wig on it
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2017-05-27 19:59 [#02520816]
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Tussle Toss
from United States on 2017-05-27 23:45 [#02520817]
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Jeremy Corbyn playing football
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0fC2_nLmOY
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2017-05-27 23:58 [#02520818]
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^ I saw that was very funny, his goal tending was alright though
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2017-05-27 23:59 [#02520819]
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I was reading today his big hobby is photographing manhole covers, im not making that up either
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2017-05-28 11:52 [#02520823]
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i think they just need less pedophiles in that cult
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2017-05-28 11:57 [#02520824]
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it is really a perverted plan
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2017-05-28 19:51 [#02520837]
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corbyn voter: 'terrorists are doing this because our country is bombing syria'
what do you think guys?
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RussellDust
on 2017-05-28 19:51 [#02520838]
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A lot of Nazis were willing to die, and died for their cause. I think 4.3 millions German soldiers died in WW2, that's quite a number considering the country. Of course a lot of Nazis didn't enrol, and weren't necessarily ready to die, but they believed in the cause.
As for communists, where to start? Blimey AMPI you dish out these readymade catchphrases all the time that stink of ignorance, and of wanting desperately to sound smart.
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2017-05-28 19:54 [#02520839]
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they had to make people do what they say with violence. you read chomsky books
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RussellDust
on 2017-05-28 19:54 [#02520840]
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I think it all starts with Palestine, that's when it started to really kick off. Britain were heavily involved, as you know of course.
Then I think they'll find any reason nowadays, lifestyle, blasphemy, capitalism.
Did you know a very sought after product by IS is Dove soap? I found that hilarious.
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RussellDust
on 2017-05-28 19:56 [#02520841]
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God you're an ignorant case. You don't read.
So you think it's all Hitler's fault for example? Idiot.
As for reading Chomsky books... sigh, you continuously protray me as this Chomsky-ite, which just goes to show how black and white you see the world.
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2017-05-28 19:57 [#02520842]
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mo is right. they have to sexually assault people, beat people, keep them freaked out and desperate.
they can never get anywhere when people are well fed and mentally balanced basically so im making sense russell really
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2017-05-28 19:58 [#02520843]
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what how are you not a chomskyite?
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2017-05-28 20:23 [#02520844]
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radical freaks like fascists and communists always act like they are supported equivocally by 'the people'. but then what are the camps and gulags for? what are the thugs for?
yeah its for the people who think its a shit system and want to leave. which usually turns out to be most the people
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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2017-05-28 20:26 [#02520845]
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ampi
politics is totally gay and only gets people into trouble
get into crypto coins and make yourself rich instead
it's better to be rich than a know it all political obsessive
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2017-05-28 20:30 [#02520846]
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100% wrong
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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2017-05-28 20:48 [#02520847]
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trust me
crypto is win politics is fail
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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2017-05-28 20:48 [#02520848]
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btw aint it better to get on with ppl around you than to be always in the right in your own mind?
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RussellDust
on 2017-05-28 21:22 [#02520849]
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I never have been, I once defended him on some stupid comment, and you made up the rest alone. You are borderline. Not one of my close friends would say or think i was some big Chomsky guy. Unlike you I'm just not black and white, and believe he sometimes points out very good historical information, always backed up, something you're incapable of.
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RussellDust
on 2017-05-28 21:26 [#02520850]
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He does it to be liked. He wants to appear smart, and opinionated.
His obsession with a guy he knows little about (Chomsky) comes from crappy little movements that exist on the net. They seem to think he's some evil guy, when generally he's ok. Thing is AMPI will mock the guy and people who might like him, while never really telling us what it is he's read that he didn't like.
Why would I start criticizing some guy I know nothing about just to sound cool, and alternative?
Boring little fucktard.
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RussellDust
on 2017-05-28 21:33 [#02520852]
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Mate, give up! Making up statements with no back up, and no proper clue of history is just dumb. Stop pretending you know about fascism. You clearly don't.
What is it with you? Are you so desperate to be seen as someone who is clever? You don't come across that way at all.
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2017-05-28 22:31 [#02520855]
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erm i told u i dont like chomsky because loads of stuff he has said is all shit.
chomskyite detected
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