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amazing to think he did this |
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just needed some better synths... i'm reading the guy he worked with and he also worked on Dunkirk, which was great too also Villeneuve wanted it to sound a lot like the original Vangelis theme, but I'm happy they didn't listen to him too much |
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yes im glad they didnt ape it directly, the oil theme in dunkirk was so good, raised the tension to unbearable levels |
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the moments i started liking the movie less (spoilers) when they shoe horned Harrison Ford in when they shoe horned that replicant lady from the original in the fight scene in the water that felt like it was supposed to resolve things, but i didn't really know what or why the resolving had to be done with a fight |
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i have to relisten the whole sound track, also because it's something you have to listen as a whole, with time frame being so important in the movie |
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yeah inking about it Deckard wasnt necessary to the film, but its the marketing aspect of having harrison ford in your film, suppose thats why they went with it, it didnt bother me too much it felt more like he was meeting up with just harrison ford rather than deckard the character though |
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to complete my review, after things i liked less and the thing i liked best things that are part great part i'm not sure about the way it looked. it looked flawless, but a lot like the original the slowness of it. i saw a reddit comment mentioning Tarkovsky (and a comment that disagreed with that). i think that's a fair association. i like the slowness in Tarkovsky as well, i just can't help falling asleep from it. the themes it touches on that were explained to me by youtube videos. with for instance Ghost in the Shell i couldn't totally figure the themes out myself as well, but it just all just felt right. |
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yes i got a sense of tarkovsky especially when K was walking around the casino and saw the dog in the shadow of the doorway |
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Waht I got out of it, ois that human, is a sort of nebulous term, what parts needed to be added to be considered human, is its just consciousness, is it the ability to reproduce? ios it ethics? what is the most reductionist definition of a human |
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" Ryan Gosling actually wrote this when trying to understand his character, and used a technique called "dropping in" to analyze writing from Nabokov's Pale Fire" |
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the casino scenes made me think of fall out new vegas, not too suprisingly i kinda got the humanity musings, but replicants giving birth was so heavy handed |
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spoilers.. |
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yes it was really like fallout las vegas in a good way |
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i love that game |
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yeah. Mr. House ftw |
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what ending did you choose, |
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i did them all, eventually, but that one first, because i got it when trying to choose at little as possible and choosing sides as little as possible: i felt ceasar and new california republic were more of a choice |
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yes i think i took over, diverted electricity to the farmers as well i like you have so many choices, complete antithesis to fallout 4 which i haven't even layed yet |
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vaguely remember that. the other two parties were dicks. liked the music in it better than the elvis in bladerunner 2049 |
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Villeneuve made Arrival, which is great i understand they're also thinking of letting him do Dune. but I'm fine with that never being adapted to film (Lynch movie was great but doesn't really count as an adaptation to film. (just as Bladerunner wasn't really an adaptation from Do androids dream of electric sheep.)) |
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Yes I love the Lynch Film, Id love to see a Villeneuve adaptation, I'm a big fan of the books especially the first 2, Its looking uncertain because of the box office returns of blade runner 2049 if this will happen, investors might get cold feet, plus original Dune was a box office bomb |
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I like the monolith scale Villeneuve has in his films massive objects emerging from the fog, its perfect for the scale of dune |
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just bought this from the book depository, updated edition they brought out because of the new film, been looking for a copy for years that wasn't loads of money of second hand |
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Gonna watch today |
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I thought Gibson invented the cyber punk of Bladerunner, but read they happened at the same time, in an interview he says: “About ten minutes into Blade Runner, I reeled out of the theater in complete despair over its visual brilliance and its similarity to the “look” of Neuromancer, my [then] largely unwritten first novel. Not only had I been beaten to the semiotic punch, but this damned movie looked better than the images in my head! With time, as I got over that, I started to take a certain delight in the way the film began to affect the way the world looked. Club fashions, at first, then rock videos, finally even architecture. Amazing! A science fiction movie affecting reality!” Both owe a lot to Moebius&co. |
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i recently read the first three books, again. have to do the other three as well Arrival reminded me of Clark's Childhood's End, which I also recently read (for the first time), and which is great |
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yes I love childhood's end, great great book, have you read Rendezvous with Rama? |
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I have neuromancer, I found it a difficult book to read, I should probably read it again |
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neuromancer i couldn't get on with at all. childhood's end is fabulous though, the ending is mindbending |
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yeah, it's difficult to read haven't read Rendez vous with Rama yet |
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"The name of Agent K's apartment building is Mobius 21. Jean (Moebius) Giraud's graphic short story "The Long Tomorrow" (published in Metal Hurlant in France and Heavy Metal in the US) was an early influence on the look of Blade Runner." Oh moebius, so brilliant |
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yeah sticks with you that book In regards to Neuromancer, i think the ideas in the book were better than the writing, I read another book by william gibson and bruce sterling called the difference engine which i thought was better, |
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this film would have been cool if it was about blade running but the only blade running happens at the beginning of the film. the whole daughter plot could have been dropped. the women were drop dead gorgeous, the older cop boss lady, the hologram girlfriend, the replicant who gets born then stabbed to death, the superstrength replicant bad guy girl, and the cgi rachel, not so much the scatty prostitutes. the flying car and the gun are interesting props but the roads were bare for most of the film. it's supposed to be california in the future, no such thing as sky traffic? little bits of korean, japanese, and chinese writing show up in the film, for stylistic reasons only. deckard is super strong with epic punching abilities. in the original he was weak and needed his gun to blow away replicants. the symbolism stuff doesn't give me a boner, the number reminded me of lost and its pointless numbers game, the flashback with the toy horse was symbolism again. i kinda like the twist with joe finding out he's not the special baby. it was fresh to see a character get disappointed by reality. when he looks up at the giant naked hologram again it was nice to see a character get fucked up . deckard was boring really he didn't need to be in the film at all. the fight at the end was tacked on. this movie would have been better if it was weak human vs replicants, drop the daughter plotline, keep the holographic girlfriend and cop boss. |
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replicants having children interests me but they could have done it better. like most films the problem is the script. the music and filming etc was done really well. love the cs80 sounds. |
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great points, yes more blade running would have been great |
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oh yeah, there was plenty of T'n'A for all you pervs out there |
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Can't argue with any of that, to be honest. |
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ana de armas is fiiine maaan! |
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i watched the trailer how is 2049 going to be like this? |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFLRc2JmkaI fan made cs80 track |
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make xltronic great again again |
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She is fit no doubt, I preferred the female replicant baddie, I reckon she would be well better in bed |
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plus I don't think you can shag a hologram, I might be wrong about that |
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Just manually typing up this interesting section I just read in this book "Dick's final vision consisted of a confrontation with God which led him to a series of infinite stacks of punched cards being generated each time Dick attempted to rationalise the vision. The only thing that could save him form this infinite information regress was to not rationalise it" ".... These dialogues were always vivid, provocative, and, at least in most of my experiences, utterly sane" |
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1st draft was same name as the novel 2nd draft of screenplay was called android 3nd was mechanismo, 4rd was dangerous days Gregory peck got a hold of one of the early screenplays and wrote a letter to studio heads that this film had to be made because of the ecological message in the initial scripts, i think bladerunner 2049 touches on that a bit more like radioactive las vegas, protein farms |
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first draft Rachel commits suicide by walking off the roof of Deckard's ConApt building, also Deckard is much more like a bureaucratic pen pusher |
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was reading that originally Eldon Tyrell was a replicant, and in that scene as it was filmed he was meant to be a replicant , after Batty killed him, he found out that the real Tyrell was on the next floor up in a cryogenic chamber, in suspended animation waiting for a cure for his terminal cancer. Because of budgetary concerns that set was built, and as a consequence the scene wasn't filmed And once again the Tyrell we see was returned to being human. |
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