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offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2017-02-05 07:28 [#02512179]
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“I agree; that is the literary equivalent of changing
the variable names when you copy source code,” Carmack
wrote. “However, if you abstract Harry Potter up a notch
or two, you get Campbell’s Hero’s Journey, which also
maps well onto Star Wars and hundreds of other stories.
These are not copyright infringement.”
--john carmack

i've performed similar abstractions from the aphex twine


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2017-02-05 09:31 [#02512181]
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did he really say that lol



 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2017-02-05 10:37 [#02512186]
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it's pretty much the same crazy shit i post here all day
right


 

offline Indeksical from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2017-02-05 10:57 [#02512196]
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Is this at the occlusion court case? They lost right?


 

offline Indeksical from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2017-02-05 10:58 [#02512197]
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Oculus!


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2017-02-05 16:02 [#02512215]
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yes, talk about a false equivalence though,


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2017-02-05 22:19 [#02512238]
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here, i'll dig up the first time i mentioned carmack on
zilty, just to demonstrate that this is all part of an arc
in my mind:

i am not john carmack and though i have a bit of an ego
about some of my things it is like everything else i do. i
carefully, compulsively suss out the envelope that fits,
then i follow it.

today, though, it's not about my ego. it's just about some
other nerd saying "if you abstract harry potter to its
second derivative it maps bodaciously back onto all space
operas" and i want to jump up and yell "see! i'm not the
only weirdo on the internet who does this shit"

that's not ego, that's justification for continued
strangeness


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2017-02-05 22:24 [#02512239]
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actually, given that he managed to point out something very
deep about the collective folklore of english that i'd
missed, i wager carmack does have some metaprogramming
skills too


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2017-02-05 22:44 [#02512241]
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since we're here, i'll continue running my mouth. from my
position of relative ignorance, i'm speculating over the
mess carmack has landed himself in the middle of: a big
company that bought your small company won't let you work on
VR, so you quit. then facebook buys your VR and you work for
facebook. they make you the CTO and you can essentially
dictate your own VR API and carmack is exactly the man who
should have the keys for that... sounds good, right? but,
no, you work for facebook. the old company realizes you were
on to something with VR and kool-aid mans into your lab with
lawsuits. somewhere in this morass, there was an inflection
point where jumping ship probably would have made sense, but
it would have only been over to HTC or Google.....

now i half wonder if we'll have thrown this whole generation
of VR shit out ten years from now. there's so much crap with
multiple, incompatable, competing platforms that cost $10k
(and another $10k for a PC to power it) and there's no
fucking software, just lawyers. and a VR headset asking you
to log into your facebook account

the general peristalsis of the tech industry indicates that
eventually some linux hackers will tear into all the
platforms and make shitty linux drivers for them. other
hackers show up and use spot and string and shitty linux
drivers to make crusty VR apps. unencumbered by the
machinations of big corporations and more concerned with
making something "cool" linux begins to develop a proper VR
ecosystem. eventually intel and amd and nvidia get together
with lots of lawyers and fight over an acronym: OpenVR
OpenGLVR? or do we stylize? OpenGlVr

anyways, i'm broke as shit and won't be able to afford a VR
development rig for a couple months, if not years. it's nice
to know absolutely nothing will get done in VR for the next
few years because it means i have some time to stretch my
legs before other hunters beat me to the data.


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2017-02-05 22:50 [#02512242]
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a year or two ago i went onto the Qt IRC channel and began
asking: hey, guys, where's the documentation for QtVR? i'm
so excited to begin Qt/VR development because Qt takes a
morass of six proprietary platforms and abstracts all the
bullshit into something coherent

i knew QtVR did not exist. i really want it to exist, though


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2017-02-05 23:13 [#02512244]
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i remember i bought a new PC in 2000 or 2001 and i was
seriously debating getting a tandem setup where i had a 3dfx
card and an nvidia card and they could talk together and
software could use whichever it preferred. the clerk went on
a tear and told me that shit was on its way out (he was
absolutely right) but then told me the future was a
dual-head Matrox Millenium G400. it wasn't, but that's
another story


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2017-02-05 23:17 [#02512246]
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there are things that are forever, i suppose. like watcom's
DOS/4GW extender. pretty sure doom used that. pretty sure
things will still be using it long after trumps nuclear
apocalypse

sorry, mohamed. i know this is too technical


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2017-02-05 23:26 [#02512247]
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i also don't miss having to go through different dark magick
config rites to get sound to work in DOS games. i have a
soundblaster pro! how hard is that? who the fuck has a
gravis ultrasound?i've never seen anyone with a gravis
ultrasound. or a... turtle beach montenegro? where can you
even buy those? this is 1998 and the only option is to get
dad to drive you to CompUSA

it's good to take a moment to remember the dark old days,
when getting a game to work was a crap shoot. it depended on
what brand of sound card you had. stores didn't have a good
selection of sound cards. graphics cards were even worse.
there were hardware jumpers to set IRQs and getting your
mouse to work in a DOS game required you modify autoexec.bat
with a TSR and make sure your himem.sys has the right
percenteage of nitrogen or your 16kb of cache money gets
held up on the bus

i can buy a $3 usb "sound card" and it's the size of a
quarter. i plug it into the usb and things figure itself out
and it just fucking works. next time i complain about modern
tech, please beat me over the head with this post


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2017-02-05 23:40 [#02512248]
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summary points:

- the second derivative of harry potter maps bodaciously to
star wars
- VR development is currently something out of an H. P.
Lovecraft story
- DOS games used to be pretty brutal because everything was
rough, closed-source, and proprietary
- VR development is pretty brutal because everything is
rough, closed-source, and proprietary
- Qt/VR circa 2024 and we can all get some work done. it
would have been 2022, but apple claimed their QtVR from 1999
had the letters already; some lawyers u noe


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2017-02-05 23:48 [#02512249]
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trademark disputes are the worst sort of namspace conflict


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2017-02-06 17:38 [#02512286]
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god matrox millennium card haven't heard that in a few years


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2017-02-06 21:04 [#02512292]
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i thought it was done and buried until i bought a dell in
like 2014 and shitty onboard graphics identified itself as
"Matrox Millenium G200"

go figure.


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2017-02-06 21:14 [#02512296]
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maximum nostalgia


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2017-02-06 21:31 [#02512299]
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multiple instances of watcom DOS/4GW in that video


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2017-02-06 21:38 [#02512303]
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I didnt realise soundblasters were so big, i never had one
at the time


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2017-02-06 21:39 [#02512304]
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awe32 rather, thin i did have a soundblaster later on
actually


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2017-02-06 21:43 [#02512305]
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hello there


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2017-02-06 21:49 [#02512307]
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LAZY_TITLE

first dos game i played public domain


 

online belb from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2017-02-06 22:10 [#02512309]
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haha i remember the pain of funky IRQ settings too, trying
to get duke3d working on my 486 was quite the hassle. first
dosgame i ever played was commander keen: goodbye galaxy at my dad's work


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2017-02-06 23:01 [#02512318]
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yes irq conflicts what a bastard they were, duke3d still
impresses me today


 


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