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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2016-10-09 06:01 [#02505123]
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today was a day i declared for one purpose: spoil myself rotten. post on forums. eat ice cream. drive around. torrent the cheetah ep...
i logged into what.cd to torrent the cheetah EP, and it curtly informed me that two of my torrents had been deleted due to inactivity. it would seem the people prefer aphex over nevenen, and who am i to argue? torrented.
there's what constitues a pre-listen: shitty PC multimedia speakers, half-listening, half-reacting to half-wit half-half-reactions in the cheetah EP thread, then a tangent into the mechanics of dog-bopping chirality. gruetoof the mp3s to my fone.
the set and setting continues with a long drive listening to crystal method, buying a coffee at a cumby, and a pack of savers, eating them one by one by one. throwing the watermelon ones promptly out the window. there were four in the pack; this may have negatively influenced my review.
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2016-10-09 06:11 [#02505124]
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i roll up to an intersection and think: yes, here's our synchronization pulse. i flick through the playlist and wait for the green arrow. start the EP just as it turns green. later, as the album ended, i was at the exact same intersection, waiting for the exact same green arrow. ending as it goes green. "oh, that's cute," i thought.
how? as we established in my other thread, music is a rhythmic programming language to create a desired state of mind, and the grammar consists of self-organizing structures arranged to generate specific results at a distance, douglas adams improbability-drive style.
driving to music is something that i've taken to almost bruce lee levels, really, and most of this is me. listening to the voice in my head telling me: yes, right here, drop the aphex album. that i've half-listened to while posting on the internet. the math of it is floating around in my subconscious, and having something like that regurgitate at the precise moment for something like green-arrow bookends is a skill i have arduously developed.
however, proper tunes are important to the mechanism working. that it came out properly means the album itself is somewhat coherent; listening to it microwaved a bit of something and the album became conscious inside my subconscious mind for a very brief moment; yelled out when it wanted to be played. consequently, on the job of "picking tracks that go with the other tracks, and flow together" i give this a 9/10. this completes section one of the review.
p.s. i'm squinting at it and i wonder if it'd play as well if you sorted the tracks lexically as opposed to just going by the official playlist. i suspect there's a lot of this in his albums
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2016-10-09 06:59 [#02505125]
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it's not an aphex album without internet arguments; this is part two of the review.
i spend a goodly amount of time thinking about what wMw thinks and what SignedUpToLOL thinks but not much time thinking about what RussellDust thinks about afex's thingks, because he doesn't want to know how his favorite music is made, and thus avoids thinking entirely (leaving me with scant thought to think about, which means no writing about writing either...). elusive thinks it's fukn surgical.
yes, alright: oh, it sounds so aphex, i just can't word it with my fumbly wording worders halp. here it is: everything is detuned slightly flat. like the whole song is melting, or sinking downwards. it goes with this thing i began noticing in car ads a decade ago: a mercedes cutting through the mist. the colors are... what is that? desaturated. the colors are desaturated. the moody aphex vibe is a grey and foggy morning with those sort of colors, and i had reasonably good success getting that sort of sound back when i did music by just thinking of that, and now how do i do the things to be like that? but, like bopping dogs, it's staring into infinity. also, ram the release up to max on all your envelopes, be very deliberate with reverb, and then use gating to make all the timing snap like cher's bumhole.
is he a fukn surginal dark lord? well, sure, he's very good at all the above, but it's nothing mystical. then we combine wMw with elusive with SiLoL, and here it is: that circkloin track lets him do these mental mathematical tapestries of noises but there's absolutely zero funk to it. no humanity. i think i need to listen to some mouse on mars just to feel emotion again.
as a topic for internet shitposting, this album gets a 4/10. we've had these arguments before, but it's nice to clear some up
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2016-10-09 07:24 [#02505126]
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this leads us to the next stage of the review: how aphex-y is this aphex? well, quite aphex, but more on that now:
SiLoL thinks it's like analogue bubblebath and i agree: yes, that one track is pretty much an AB melody, but it has more at the end; it's a bit better. now when i would have put that on, i can put on this instead. then ZX2 whatever at the end, yes, bwoon dub finally develops a sense of humor. those moments when i want to hear bwoon dub, but, no, i'm not that straight-lipped now. what do i do? ugh... but, no more.
the synth tones? yes, it's like he's doing prophet VS patches on this little joke synth box of his, and it's not quite as psychedelic as the VS but the bottom end sounds better than the VS could ever manage. i like it. i recall the pg800 or whatever has no filters; i imagine that forces one to construct a track's harmonics upfront. he's done this, with a circkloincloth whatever, no funk, but it has the satisfying beauty of a level of breakout (before the little ball and paddle get to work and ruin it all).
aphex has spoke of filling holes in his catalogue, a cheetah is a cat, holes filled: 5/10. replaces various tracks off AB, drukqs, and analord, but nothing that wasn't present before. it's kind of hard for him to score a good number in this CATegory at this stage of iteration
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2016-10-09 07:31 [#02505127]
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where does it fit into my personal collection of tracks? this is the hardest to rate, especially right now. i'm not overwhelmed. slightly whelmed, sure, but that's about as far as it goes. the pre-listen on PC multimedia speakers was not impressive; the car proper listen was better. it's definitely getting more car time, but a certain sort of car time. i used to hate the track "drown in the now" by crystal method, but... why did i hate this track? fuck me, it's great for driving fast. i don't really ever put on aphex for those moments hunter s. thompson referred to -- the ones that "drag the blood to the back of the brain." no, aphex is more cruising around while stoned. not particularly fast. half lost in thought. space on my fone is limited and i'm deleting orphaned dj selek for this one instead. i should also delete the acoustic computer one. this has more carplay value than either, but not nearly as much as crystal method's album "divided by night" and that's as close as i can get to a number for now. keep trying, richard
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2016-10-09 12:17 [#02505131]
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i agree with part 2, i think its a nice review
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SignedUpToLOL
from Zuckuss fanfiction (United Kingdom) on 2016-10-09 12:50 [#02505133]
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I appreciate the gift of prompting me to visualise Cher's bumhole. You can't put a price on that.
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2016-10-09 17:54 [#02505164]
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i read somewhere that these cheetah stuff are hard to use, maybe he just couldnt take the 'human' out of that machine. maybe it doesnt give you the possibility to do so.
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2016-10-09 17:58 [#02505166]
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maybe its just not your tempo
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2016-10-09 21:57 [#02505173]
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so, yes, i realized i nailed it even better than i meant to: everything is detuned slightly flat
if everything is detuned flat, then it's all in tune, and nothing is flat, right? there's the trick -- it's a moving target. what's my ear latching onto? ok, yes, there. now let's melt that. then it's melted off somewhere; what next? a thousand little tricks buried in iterating over like that. half from listening to others' music closely, the other half just from messing around. half of messing around is accidental discovery, the other half is "i have it in my head, now how do i get it into the computer?"
eventually everything tastes like robot tears on a misty morning. the "acid" sound, i'd almost argue, more than 303 twonks.
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2016-10-11 03:37 [#02505389]
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sorry, no, it's not off AB, it's SAW 85-92. the (korbychevsky mix) track is a dead ringer for delphium or actium or one of those. as flip as i come off about all of this, though, when i said it was slightly better, i was not exaggerating
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RussellDust
on 2016-10-11 15:46 [#02505393]
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"what wMw thinks and what SignedUpToLOL thinks but not much time thinking
about what RussellDust thinks about afex's thingks, because
he doesn't want to know how his favorite music is made, and
thus avoids thinking entirely (leaving me with scant thought
to think about, which means no writing about writing ..."
Sorry, what?
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2016-10-11 17:37 [#02505394]
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I don't want to know about how the art my favorite artists
make. --RusselDust, Cheetah EP thread
i do suppose that's a grammatical trainwreck and i could have misparsed your intent.
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RussellDust
on 2016-10-11 18:03 [#02505396]
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Problem is I don't put much care into my posts, or activity here. I can't even be bothered checking the thread you're talking about.
I never double check for grammar or spelling either.
I believe in making the most out of very little, when it comes to this art I mention. Often extensive focus on equipment steers us off course, and beyond the actual point. I know how most of the music I love is made, it's usually not very difficult to work out. When it comes to ae or Aphex, there can be an interesting element as to working out how a certain sound was managed, what gear was used, but that's about it. The gear isn't that important. I know some very knowledgeable gear heads with tons of tools who unfortunately seriously lack creativity, dare I say talent.
I guess I forget you can also be sarcastic, so I won't mention the bit about thinking.
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RussellDust
on 2016-10-11 18:40 [#02505400]
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There's always something interesting to note about technique, I'm not trying to be a spoilsport here.
I think you understand me perfectly, and I don't feel the need to go on about this, so I'll just mention that when we read a great book, we know how It was written, or more precisely we know what tools were used. It's the creativity that takes center stage. When I hear a great melody, hook, or beat, I'm pretty aware of the process (in general) that goes through in order to create it. It's just not what interests me when I listen to a Prince track, or read a great story. It's not about the author's typewriter brand.
I do enjoy technical tricks of course. How a machine was used. But it still all boils down to the brain and creativity.
Comparing writing to making music is of course possibly really far fetched. I'm just trying to justify the grammar-mess you used as a quote to make an overstatement about me, and more importantly about 'thinking'.
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RussellDust
on 2016-10-11 18:46 [#02505401]
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I prefer the melody to the material process used to create the melody, which generally requires fingers and an instrument, or pen.
If i met an artist I love I'd compliment his work, but not necessarily how it was made. I would definitely not compliment his or her tools.
Sorry, I'm bored, possibly confused, generally well meaning.
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2016-10-11 18:47 [#02505402]
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i couldnt give a shit about how music was made.
gear talk is boring.
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RussellDust
on 2016-10-11 19:06 [#02505406]
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I love that this is in connection to the cheetah ep. He's not exactly keeping his tools to himself. Syro's artwork came with a list for fuck's sake. I think it's possible his intentions for doing so are lost to some people.
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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2016-10-11 19:33 [#02505409]
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it's kind of a pointless list because it lists nearly every piece of gear ever made
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RussellDust
on 2016-10-11 20:17 [#02505411]
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Actually no it isn't, and no it isn't.
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2016-10-12 17:14 [#02505457]
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i was just having a goof with that anywaya, because i was nicking bits from the cheetah proper thread to reply to, and yours was mixed in with what i was grabbing...
i guess i was trying to make a point about state of mind. my attitude has always been towards painting a mood or a vibe. this manifests in technical ways, but it's more just... write, playback, is this what feeling/mood i wanted? can i make it moreso? rinse the flangers and repeat until returns diminish
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2016-10-13 09:35 [#02505568]
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so, yes, in this track -- ~here~ -- i've thrown the desaturated sound under the bus and gone supersaturated. like a blinding stock image of sunflowers under a blue sky. i wasn't trying to be contrarian, i was just trying to make a sunny track because i wasn't feeling moody. cheer up, acid lords
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2016-10-13 09:43 [#02505569]
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this isn't really a review. it started off as a parody of a review, sorta formatted like a review. then peter reviewyneux. it is a fragment of the end of the other thread about the thing -- it got me thinking, you know? like... yeah, that's a good point, but... and, until i argue it all out and type it up, it's a lot more nebulous and circular. so, ground floor, i've sat down and worked my own opinions out a bit more thoroughly.
the replies help just as much. people arguing with me, or misunderstanding in a funny way. then i am having to format my nonsense in reply to their nonsense, i suppose, and this begins to box in some semblance of an understanding. and a sort of pressure on my bullshit that's akin to natural selection. like i said to someone today, "what i say is bad enough; you don't want to know what i throw out."
i felt like i should write this in case kettel minge storms in here and demands to know who, exactly, do i think i am, writing this and expecting it to be red
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2016-10-13 10:13 [#02505572]
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then snow is not sunny and my metaphor has collapsed. desaturated, supersaturated? that's all i know about the instagram filters they use on acura commercials. i figure the answer is "that moody RDJ feel" is really how RDJ feels, possibly when he's hiding away inside some 80s synth, or possibly just in general.
then you lot are so into aphex that it comes to be like recognizing someone's voice. how do you do that? it's complexicated, but it's not just voice, but accent, the way they say words... irony is, i don't have a particulary firm idea of what his real voice sounds like...
so, yes, you're feeling someone else's feelings, and you've spent so much time feeling them that it's immediately distinct from all the other feelings you feel from other someones. now you're asking: what's this feeling that i'm feeling, and what synthesizer will make me this feel...y?
obviously, it's the prophet vs
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2016-10-13 10:32 [#02505573]
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I appreciate the gift of prompting me to visualise Cher's bumhole. You can't put a price on that.
i got to that part of the sentence: "to make all the timing snap like..." and then it just kinda showed up. cher's bumhole? sure, alright, moving on.
later, i was puzzling over it. i can't even remember the last time i thought of cher. usually, i can figure out where these things came from, somewhat... but, no, it's like i handed off my brain's microphone to the studio audience for a moment. i decided: something in me has landed on this as the resonant frequency of someone's funny bone. i wonder who?
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2016-10-13 10:49 [#02505574]
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to clarify -- or muddle it further
"make all the timing snap like cher's bumhole" -- cher's bumhole is drastically different from the usual sort of things i'd pick for that spot.
thinking about it, i could tell it was culled from stuff i've read here. i don't use the word bumhole very often; people here do. cher? people who know about cher are typically a little older than me. obviously european... belb would say bumhole....
so my conclusion was that i'd bodged up a joke for someone in particular, or a general archetype of sorts on this board.
then someone's to lol dropped in to say, "yeah, out of all this stuff, this thing here, it's beautiful." then he's gone. left the thread. so, yes, bumhole is a belb word, but signeduptolol is stranded in london or something and he's on here enough to recognize a belb word and
i am delighted that someone reacted in that manner.
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SignedUpToLOL
from Zuckuss fanfiction (United Kingdom) on 2016-10-13 12:45 [#02505575]
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It's funny because even though I was born in London (albeit the Bowie-belt of the Beckenham hinterland), and have lived here most of my life, I do feel stranded here, like I can't get away. And I have tried to get away, numerous times.
I am not sure what magazine it is here, it's like National Enquirer but called something like Now! or Take a Break or Take a Shit but the front page currently carries the legend "Dying Cher turned me Gay"
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SignedUpToLOL
from Zuckuss fanfiction (United Kingdom) on 2016-10-13 12:52 [#02505576]
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Looking it up it is actually the National Enquirer UK, so I guess it's almost exactly like the National Enquirer, and not like Take a Shit, at all.
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2016-10-13 15:47 [#02505580]
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you've tried to get away from it your whole life, but Take A Shit magazine has still immanentized cher's bumhole into a direct portal to your subconscious mind. the word shit comes from the german scheiss, to separate. what do i want to keep, and what do i want to flush? snappy envelopes allow for crisp and responsive decision making
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RussellDust
on 2016-10-13 16:32 [#02505581]
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A visit to see old RD would be fun......ONE DAY!!!
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2016-10-13 16:41 [#02505582]
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Extraordinary
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2016-10-13 22:38 [#02505616]
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I'm the king of the JUNGLE aint no girl here with a safe bumhole and when it comes to the boys I'm no homophobia-ist I rent their bums to some close friends who just happen to be nonces-es.
I read they need my vibrancy in the UK Go as a student but then I over stay --SignedUpToLOL in a belb rap battle thread ~ cite
elaboration: in the car, i said: googaggling site:xltronic.com bumhole belb will turn up something. i just know it. when i get back, i should googagglego on this query and find out what!
tallying up: i decided bumhole was a belb sort of word, here's signeduptolol using it in a belb rap battle thread, and also mentioning the UK trapping him like a fly in amber.
this arose from cher's bumhole. cher's bumhole? that sticks out like a trombone sneeze. everything else in the post makes sense, more or less, but...
then in trying to suss out why i'd done that, where it came from, etc. it starts to feel like a bit of a machine. but i don't have all the variables... so, i reach these points that i absolutely love. i know googling xlt's archives for "bumhole belb" will deliver something dope, trippy, etc. but i have absolutely no idea what it will be until i actually google it...
i vaguely remember that thread, but i still can't say if that's where it all came from. it's just likely.
this aphex twin EP review is getting rather long. needs snappier envelopes. careful control of information
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2016-10-13 22:57 [#02505618]
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this sort of absurd reverse-engineering of words and reality is something i've always done. it was a hobby. stuff to think about while riding the subway. idle amusement. somehow it's turned into something with a lot of practical application, so i put a bit more serious effort into it. disciplined and structued as opposed to idle tinkering. a bit later, there was a moment: how i am flying through air? i think i was just fired out of a canon. tacobel's canon... no, back! back, molynuex!
it's a subtle thing: oh, yes, that's a belb word. i'm certain. the phrase still confuses me, but yes, my brain assures me it's a belb word. i'm not provided with a reason; i have to work that out myself. being able to trust myself with that sort of unexplained certainty is one part. the other part is becoming so familar with my own paths of thought that i can trust myself with that sort of unexplained certainty. eventually you start to say: i've seen this sort of unexplained certainty many times before, and i suspect it constitutes a pattern. after you work the pattern out, you spot it whenever it runs by your mental assembly line... that's where i am now. i spot it, i chase after it to see where it's going. after enough of this i'll begin to spot patterns in that, and achieve what the buddha referred to as peter molyneux
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2016-10-13 23:02 [#02505619]
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Comparing writing to making music is of course possibly really far fetched. I'm just trying to justify the grammar-mess you used as a quote to make an overstatement about me, and more importantly about 'thinking'.
yes, you were part of the thing where i have two serious points and then a third mock point for a giggle. this guy has this interesting point, this other guy has this other interesting point, and russeldust prefers not to make points.
writing, though, like music, is a thing where your style is nothing more than thousands of bits of other peoples' style collaged together. the individual voice arises in personal preference. cher's bunghole vs. peter molyneux
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2016-10-13 23:09 [#02505620]
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in conclusion, i give this EP a 7/10 overall.
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RussellDust
on 2016-10-14 11:19 [#02505635]
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Yes all people are influenced. I like to think bits get added though, if you're lucky, if you know what I mean!
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