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offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2016-08-04 21:01 [#02501390]
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also, here we are again: blue monday, the emperor's nude
semiquaver


 

offline mohamed from the turtle business on 2016-08-04 21:07 [#02501391]
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mindblowing


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2016-08-04 21:11 [#02501392]
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is that the end of windowlicker? no, it's a pair of nascent
teenagers mashing a midi through pirated software and then
accidentally rinsing it further with more software -- fraps.
likes to lag more than bandycam. who am i to disagree? when
i needed this sort of tool i went right for fraps, but i did
that because it's what ken silverman suggested.


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2016-08-04 21:34 [#02501393]
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so, yeah. black midi is its own whole movement. the files
are floating around; have been floating around. loads of
people run red zone or apple through some virtual piano and
upload it to youtube; eventually a pair of kids hit the
sweet spot entirely by accident. blow the mind of a jaded
30yo and sell him on the idea that there may still be things
left to do. if that's not current times, i don't know what
is


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2016-08-04 22:14 [#02501395]
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"yeah, kids these days are pretty riced out, i
reckon."
an english chap posted that on the yugo forums.
it's somewhere between delightful and overwhelming to see
what had been my private file of nonsense for ages begin to
percolate out and ripple back at me. didn't aphex say
something like, "yeah, people started making VSTs to do the
things i did, then i downloaded those VSTs and used 'em; a
weird feedback loop." i'm thing of dFx buffer override
there. where'd that come from? timestretch on the Akai S100?
i think.

the cloud is for more than serving up shitty portal sites.
it is a living and thoughtful echo chamber and i love the
shit out of it, even if i don't quite have its attention
like teh afx.


 

offline mohamed from the turtle business on 2016-08-04 22:23 [#02501396]
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aphex speaking like rza i reckon

i dont know what this is worth for, i guess it your
representation of music


 

offline mohamed from the turtle business on 2016-08-04 22:39 [#02501400]
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its never a matter or what has been done and whats not, the
matter is what did you do or didn't


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2016-08-04 23:06 [#02501402]
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the structure of scientific revolutions by thomas kuhn.
paradigm shift. applicable to art farts without the dismal
seriousness of academics. 4'33 was a paradigm shift. so is
youtube. if something you do catches on and percolates, it's
like a futuristic quantum computer that tries out countless
possibilities all at once... except it's human, too, with
personal preferences. these prefs will not necessarily align
with yours. people misinterpret what you meant and come back
with riffs based on those misinterpretations, or even
flat-out negate you. then everyone votes with the roman
emperor icons and you don't even have to spend much time
sorting through the results for the winners. how would you
even build that from scratch? you could spend ages
interviewing people and sorting through resumes until you
have a gymnasium full of people that are interested in your
stuff, but it's not like you can screen them for being full
of ideas and angles you haven't thought of. you haven't
thought of them, so you can't screen for 'em


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2016-08-04 23:22 [#02501403]
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they wrong about ether and they never saw ethernet coming.


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2016-08-05 03:48 [#02501418]
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bob metcalfe invented ethernet, and when he did, i'm pretty
darn sure he had a hell of a beard. it's a logical
assumption, given that he had a hell of a beard twenty years
later in cringley's nerds point release on PBS. maybe,
though, it's very slow. he was clean-shaven when he invented
ethernet, and by the time he sold 3com, he had a goatee,
etc

next, here is ethernt (which i did not invent) and
music video for ethernt (which i did [but no that is not me in the
video{H264 @ 5k <90mb>}]).

thank you for reading my reply to myself tangenting to
nearby words.


the internet is p. dope.




the sp303 sux.





burial drives a geo metro with flame decals. correct me if
i'm wrong, here





i have burial's "untrue" as well as burial's
"burial." i don't remember either, really, except that i had
a reaction that wasn't particularly good. no hate; i didn't
find it annoying or bothersome... but the yawn it generated
made the milky way look like a morsel of breakfast cereal. i
probably won't change my mind, but it's been years. it's
worth another yawn just to be sure.

p.s. if you want minimal that's not terrible (and, in fact,
blows "quite good" out of the water) try jelly tones by ken
ishii.

p.p.s. that ellen 'n' appart album is completely unrelated,
but fantastisch


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2016-08-05 03:51 [#02501419]
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which yawns harder, untrue or burial? it wasn't clear i was
asking that. if one's a yawn i won't listen to the other on
faith; don't blow your shot here lads


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2016-08-05 03:55 [#02501420]
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i also could be confusing bob metcalfe with one of the
arpanet guys. i am reasonably certain he wasn't with
japanese telecom, in any case. or maybe the guy i'm thinking
was actually monolith, pretending to be gerald donald.
again. then travelling back in time; pretending to be gerald
donald pretending to be bob metcalfe. i felt compelled to
add this because accuracy matters to me, somewhat.


 

offline mohamed from the turtle business on 2016-08-05 09:39 [#02501427]
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go listen to breakcore


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2016-08-05 17:53 [#02501432]
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breakorpereal moats for wekford, with a bit of brown sugar
and salt to aspiration. that's breakcore. your post? not one
of the two burial albums i have. it suits; i'm too
well-rested to yawn. try to have your decision back by this
evening, please


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2016-08-05 18:13 [#02501433]
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also, here is the sort of thing that makes me glad
i traded the mouse for more faders than i could handle.
mostly, i feel like i have a sense of rhythm and timing that
i didn't have before. i've always had a knack for layering,
but now i feel them sliding and drifting much more crisply.
things like everyone's windshield wipers drifting in and out
of sync. somewhere along the line i began factoring things
like that into my driving, and i'm making decisions about
whether or not to run a yellow light based on the position
of the song, my knowledge of the light's timing, the feel of
the car motion when viewed with soft eyes, and yes, i can be
coasting through the intersection precisely at the moment
when the wipers are most synced. this is just casual
amusement for me. if i'm tired or having a conversation
these things fade off, but when i'm driving for fun, they
all come out to play. sort of a notion that all of life is
DJing, beatmatching. years of fighting with old skool
hardware and my own weaknesses has been rewarded with an
ability to rapidly hone in on all these little trickles of
rhythmic data and synthesize them into something to amuse
myself. i kind of regret those QSI albums i made, but most
of the rest i'm glad i did


 

offline mohamed from the turtle business on 2016-08-05 18:56 [#02501434]
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lol. youre not content with the posts you do here, you link
posts on your forum. i cant keep track, man

try untrue for driving and keep burial for the coldest
weather


 

offline mohamed from the turtle business on 2016-08-05 20:23 [#02501447]
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ive read the post on the other forum, you have interesting
stories, but i get 40/60% of what youre saying


 

offline mohamed from the turtle business on 2016-08-05 20:29 [#02501448]
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youre actually sounding funny. have you learnt to write from
w M w a bit?


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2016-08-05 20:34 [#02501449]
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darn it. while driving means i have to copy it over to my
phone. this is getting complicated... but i've made such a
thing of it that i can't bail out now.


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2016-08-05 20:36 [#02501451]
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i decided i was posting too much of it here and that branch
of it felt like a good moment to take it back over there.
then i realized that was a functional example of the
nonsense i was talking up over here, so i was all "this is
over there" and the rest of it was an xlt post that still
would have shown up without that link or the story of absurd
noise stick. may as well connect it into my nonsense modular


 

offline mohamed from the turtle business on 2016-08-05 20:37 [#02501452]
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yes, try to get into the record


 

offline mohamed from the turtle business on 2016-08-05 20:39 [#02501453]
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i owned both burial and untrue on cd, they sounded different
than the mp3, i remember i was saying that on here


 

offline mohamed from the turtle business on 2016-08-05 21:02 [#02501456]
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i dont have any cd left. all destroyed.


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2016-08-05 21:11 [#02501457]
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back on tangent:

raymond scott pointed out that anytime you listen to a
record there is a long and esoteric signal chain that alters
it slightly, depending on the listener's particular
apparatus.

4'33 wasn't meant as some contrarian gimmick, even it's that
what it was to many. it was more a cleverly made point about
ambient sounds. a layer on top of scott's apparati.

today, it's pretty hard to find silence. your average
doctor's office is still pretty brian eno ambient, but times
square is busier than a venetian snares track. phones,
bluetooth speakers, viral videos, apple watches. a train
compartment today sounds like times square did twenty years
ago. mumbling podcasts, viral videos with explosions, and of
course, everything that was there before... chatter and
farts and squeaks.

i figure people have become remarkably adept at surfing
through all this noise. it's pretty much a survival skill,
at this point. it is more complex than simply tuning
everything out (which is dead simple; use earplugs). the key
is separating what you want from what you don't... and being
able to do this quickly, for a dozen things every second.
you're subconsciously keeping running talleys on loads of
different things. it's not easy... it's a learned skill.
always within human capability, but never this reliably
omnipresent.

this changes a lot of things in culture. music has gone
michael bay. people expect and want more events. deliberate
flooding, sensory overload is no longer overwhelming, it's
exciting. everyone everywhere is doing things like driving,
smoking, listening to music, and surfing the web, all at the
same time. without breaking a sweat. anyone who wants to
function has to be good at it. anyone who wants to be
interesting must be a master at it.


 

offline mohamed from the turtle business on 2016-08-05 21:13 [#02501458]
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whats 4'33?


 

offline mohamed from the turtle business on 2016-08-05 21:14 [#02501459]
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i wanted to ask you before


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2016-08-05 21:20 [#02501461]
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WIKI_PEDIA


 

offline mohamed from the turtle business on 2016-08-05 21:23 [#02501462]
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im reading the italian page


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2016-08-05 21:34 [#02501463]
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so you have the mind of the composer, the things that
generate the sounds, the things that record the sounds, the
things that play back the sounds, and then the ambient
sounds on top of the sounds. the layer on top of this is
attention management. formerly invisible, now a new
playground. is this what i was getting at? perhaps. i'm not
sure


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2016-08-05 21:48 [#02501464]
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functional example: squarepusher's "coathangar" has a moment
that's precisely a match for what bleep does or did when
your thirty-second preview is over. it's a rapid fade, and
distinct enough to constitue a sort of signature. if you're
listening raptly, whiching the seconds tick by in winamp,
it's amusing, sure. but if you're surfing the web and
listening to the album in the background, it has the
potential to pull the rug out from under you; snap your
attention back to the music under false pretenses. it is
definitely one of SP's more clever moments.


 

offline mohamed from the turtle business on 2016-08-05 21:54 [#02501466]
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im playing it now


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2016-08-05 21:57 [#02501467]
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i propose a composition called 4'33"1, in which the audience
is instructed to begin using their mobile phones however
they so please. candy girls are deployed after a few minutes
and begin to ask people if they want to buy candy. a few
minutes later they're asking everyone a second time, then a
third. a cell jammer is switched on and there's minor chaos
as 2/3 of everyone loses their current thread and says no to
the candy girl for the fifth time. then the pink floyd
airplane from their live performance of "on the run" flies
over the audience and explodes. later, the computers get
hacked and the personal information of everyone who attended
gets uploaded to the internet. in future performances, video
of previous performances is blasted onto the walls with
projectors and into the air with loudspeakers. two dozen
parrots, all unique, are released and fly around. a man gets
on the megaphone and starts demanding to know who released
the parrots, these are not part of the performance and
please collect your parrots immediately

i would absolutely love that. i would. but i suppose it's
all been done already, by andy kaufman


 

offline mohamed from the turtle business on 2016-08-05 22:02 [#02501470]
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did you see pink floyd live?


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2016-08-05 22:08 [#02501472]
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4'33"1 ends with the cops showing up, and it's not clear if
they're the real cops or part of the plan. obviously,
they're the real cops, and they're showing up because of the
small riot going on -- that's the final movement, things
getting so out of hand that the riot police show up and
unwittingly become part of the performance. also part of the
performance are the dozen or two people so sucked into their
mobile phones so thoroughly that they miss the whole thing
right up to being clubbed with a baton.


 

offline mohamed from the turtle business on 2016-08-05 22:55 [#02501477]
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where we can see/hear that?


 

offline mohamed from the turtle business on 2016-08-05 22:56 [#02501478]
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oh thats your invention, sorry i missed the 1


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2016-08-13 05:32 [#02501935]
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so, i am afraid my reaction to "untrue" was a slightly more informed version
of my original reaction: this sounds like DJ Shadow trying
to an Avicii track, and it's really not working for me.

every song goes like this: hip hop beat and drifty vocal
sample. ok, not bad. a minute later not much has changed and
i'm waiting to be hit up with something, anything. nah.

i began losing patience and skipping tracks. then i got to
"In Mcdonalds" and i was like... are you shitting me? this
better be good. like, an accidentally recorded argument,
cash register noises -- anything, please. but, no. it's a
hip hop beat with a drifty vocal sample.

at that point i skipped the rest of the album... except for
a bit of "untrue." i thought: oh, alright, it's the title
track. perhaps this is the thing mohamed meant to sent me.
it was a hip hop beat with a drifty vocal sample


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2016-08-14 01:16 [#02501962]
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there's a thought i've passed by a few times. enough of a
tingle on the notion geiger that i'll let it out: i hope
mohamed isn't the burial guy. that would be super-awkard


 

offline mohamed from the turtle business on 2016-08-19 16:16 [#02502098]
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i wish i was the burial guy


 

offline mohamed from the turtle business on 2016-08-19 18:54 [#02502107]
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its a beat, but not a hip hop beat. more likely an UK beat


 

offline mohamed from the turtle business on 2016-08-19 18:56 [#02502108]
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more likely A do wit wat you have


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2016-08-21 05:44 [#02502168]
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wat i got


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2017-01-29 22:23 [#02511652]
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that reminds me, i still need to delete this album from my
phone. it's only got 16gig unoe


 

offline mohamed from the turtle business on 2017-01-30 20:14 [#02511689]
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so youre another one of those artist bragging about their
music while throwing shit on another ones? seen on xltronic.


 

offline mohamed from the turtle business on 2017-01-30 20:30 [#02511690]
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seen all of them vaporizing, too


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2017-01-31 05:17 [#02511706]
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i don't just get on a soapbox and complain. i wait until
someone posts an xltronic thread about something i have
complaints about. then i post them all. then i move on to
other threads for a bit... then, yes, you've replied to my
replies and pretty soon i'm having a conniption over "in
mcdonalds" because some guy on the internet didn't
understand how anyone could hate a sampler. like, genuine
resentment


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2017-01-31 05:18 [#02511707]
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how is gear shonked?


 

offline mohamed from the turtle business on 2017-01-31 11:31 [#02511717]
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hate a sampler?


 

offline mohamed from the turtle business on 2017-01-31 11:35 [#02511719]
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oooh i get it now. you hatze the sampler and i couldnt get
it. ok.


 

offline steve mcqueen from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2017-01-31 22:57 [#02511771]
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Burial's sample choices are perfick, can tell he's just
going for stuff that is in his favourite games, tunes and
films, and even if you can't immediately identify the source
that is gonna resonate with a lot of ppl who are in the same
lifestyle + thnk the same way. Plus his tunes are good.


 


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